Harry Kane | Bayern Munich player

Kane's only potential legacy is the all time PL top scorer.

He's not leaving unless that's done.
 
B. Munich said:
I read this now several times on redcafe. Still I don't know what Bayern did to allegedly piss Levy off. Anyway I don't think Levy's feelings will play a significant role in this deal.
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It was widely reported in the UK after the news came that Touchel met with Kane, Levy wasnt happy with Bayern. not sure how true this was though.

B. Munich said:
I hope and I'm pretty confident our board isn't that dumb to splash out that much money. 1 year contract, 30 years old and no competition....70 million Euro plus some add ons is a fair price.
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Fair prices and British players don't go hand in hand.

B. Munich said:
I think time will be the deciding factor. Kane won't sign a new deal, other clubs (Real) aren't interested in Kane and Levy won't sell to another EPL club, he doesn't have any other options than to accept the offer or let Kane leave on a free transfer 12 months later. 70+ million euros are a lot of money for a club like Spurs. I'm pretty sure Levy will give in once the end of window is nearing.
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The cost of missing out on CL is almost the same as that fee. If we see Spurs sign a striker then maybe then I can see Levy caving in otherwise I genuinely think he would rather hold on to him to hopefully secure CL than sell him. And by the way, Spurs are fast approaching the big boys in terms of income generation, They were 9th based on last years (22/23) numbers without CL. They have had CL in this season just gone, loads of concerts and events at their stadium, so I can imagine they are nearing the 600m number when the 22/23 numbers are revealed.
 
adexkola said:
From a financial perspective, if I was Kane I'd run out my contract and pocket the big sign-on bonus. If all he wants is a trophy a move to PSG or Bayern will guarantee that. Who knows, maybe there is a legitimate contender to City in the league in a year's time he can switch over to.
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His options will really open up next summer. Not only will he get a big sign-on bonus, nearly all the top teams in the world would gladly take him.

Barcelona - Lewandoski will be 36 next August.
Madrid - Imagine a double scoop of Mbappe and Kane for free. It would be the windows of all windows.
Bayern - Unless they get someone in this summer, they will still be there next year.
All English teams not including City
 
Eplel said:
Kane's only potential legacy is the all time PL top scorer.

He's not leaving unless that's done.
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I don't susbcribe to the notion that the EPL record is more important than medals. Records are always broken.
 
Big Ray said:
You say with such conviction. Why couldn’t it be done before August you think?
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tidraKS said:
So, we're stuck with Glazers for this summer eh.
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Sadly yes. Even if it was announced today that the Qatar offer had been accepted it would be September/October before it was completed, so the chances of making a big offer for Kane or similar are close to 0%.

Look at the recent takeovers of Chelsea and Newcastle and the timeframe of the various different stages.
 
fezzerUTD said:
I just don’t believe its true.

I think they probably spoken to his agent, but to sit down with kane to me is far fetched.
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I don’t think it is. We regularly do stuff like that.
 
I can only see Kane signing another extension at Spurs...but that's because I don't think he has the character to actually make any move happen.

Would like him to prove me wrong and move to a CL club to show he is world class. But Harry will probably take the boring option and stay at Spurs.
 
I'd be surprised if Kane left Spurs, amazed even if he went aboard.

I don't think he has got the balls for it.
 
If Spurs don't sell him this summer, we need to get it all agreed in principle with him that he comes to us next year on a free.

He's an absolute must on a free next year.
 
RedStarUnited said:
It was widely reported in the UK after the news came that Touchel met with Kane, Levy wasnt happy with Bayern. not sure how true this was though.



Fair prices and British players don't go hand in hand.



The cost of missing out on CL is almost the same as that fee. If we see Spurs sign a striker then maybe then I can see Levy caving in otherwise I genuinely think he would rather hold on to him to hopefully secure CL than sell him. And by the way, Spurs are fast approaching the big boys in terms of income generation, They were 9th based on last years (22/23) numbers without CL. They have had CL in this season just gone, loads of concerts and events at their stadium, so I can imagine they are nearing the 600m number when the 22/23 numbers are revealed.
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They wont compete for the champions league with or without Kane.
 
Kane's biggest mistake was signing a 6 year contract with Daniel Levy as chairman.
 
Wiesenlooser said:
No, but I think all clubs do it in one way or another. I don't even understand why It should be illegal.
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All the big clubs could just go round telling players not to renew their contracts and get a big signing on bonus off them thats why. It would be terrible for clubs which survive off buying for cheap and selling at a considerable profit.
 
CallyRed said:
Kane's biggest mistake was signing a 6 year contract with Daniel Levy as chairman.
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Yeah the trouble was when he did they had challenged (sort of) for the league in back to back seasons. They then followed it up by that unbelievable run to Champions League final two years later only to have the worst possible start.
 
croadyman said:
Yeah the trouble was when he did they had challenged (sort of) for the league in back to back seasons. They then followed it up by that unbelievable run to Champions League final two years later only to have the worst possible start.
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It's the classic "I can change, please don't leave me" situation in relationships. They show some promise for a while, but ultimately they revert back to being the same old piece of shit.
 
If Kane goes to Levy and threatens to join Chelsea or Arsenal on a free Levy would take 50 mill from him from Bayern never mind 90.

Fact of the matter is Kane has probably given Levy some hope that he'll sign a new contract which shouldn't be that much of a surprise.
 
B. Munich said:
I don't see Levy got many options here. He doesn't sell to EPL clubs and from the big continental clubs, which can also afford him, only Bayern is interested.

According to Bild und Sportbild, which have usually excellent connections to Bayern, the club didn't submit a new improved offer.

Levy will drag this transfer saga anyway til the end of the window. Bayern should just stick to their offer. Take it or lose the player on a free next season.
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This is pretty much what I think will happen.

Unless Kane is stupid enough to sign a new contract. Which I seriously doubt anyone would be THAT stupid. But as some say never underestimate anyone. Especially Kane in this case.

the_cliff said:
If Kane goes to Levy and threatens to join Chelsea or Arsenal on a free Levy would take 50 mill from him from Bayern never mind 90.
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This in fact is a very good point. But we're talking about Kane here. Footballing aside this guy is simply hopeless.
 
caid said:
They wont compete for the champions league with or without Kane.
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Who exactly do you see competing in the CL I wonder. This is how they performed vs City in both games....

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Are those not the stats of a competing team that perhaps lack a person up front who can finish? It's not like the CL is littered with top teams right now. It's only Man City who are way ahead of everyone else.

Spain: Madrid are in transition and Barca is not exactly a great team
Italy: Inter's team have been sold off, Napoli lost their coach, AC Milan and Lazio are not better than Bayern
England: Recent winners Chelsea and Liverpool are not in. United don't know how we perform, Arsenal hasn't been in the CL in 7 years, Newcastle also unknown.

Who do you see competing?
 
RedStarUnited said:
Who exactly do you see competing in the CL I wonder. This is how they performed vs City in both games....

BayernCity
57Possession (Avg)43
29Shots24
11Shots on Target11

Are those not the stats of a competing team that perhaps lack a person up front who can finish? It's not like the CL is littered with top teams right now. It's only Man City who are way ahead of everyone else.

Spain: Madrid are in transition and Barca is not exactly a great team
Italy: Inter's team have been sold off, Napoli lost their coach, AC Milan and Lazio are not better than Bayern
England: Recent winners Chelsea and Liverpool are not in. United don't know how we perform, Arsenal hasn't been in the CL in 7 years, Newcastle also unknown.

Who do you see competing?
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Teams that qualify would be a good start. Spurs wont.
 
Strelok said:
Agree. Levy is a cnut but he's a businessman. And a fecking greedy one. No way he'd let Kane leave on a free.

Imo this would be decided only by the last week of August. Levy then would have a choice of selling to Bayern or Madrid for 60m or nothing. Or to us for +80m, if we have the cash by then and haven't bought Hojlund yet.

Levy is still waiting for a better bid but as everyone know they'd get Kane for free next summer. Or maybe 30m in Jan. So nobody is in a hurry. Levy thinks he's smarter than everyone but he's obviously not.
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This is such a myth. He’s not a good football player businessman. He sells players at market rate or below. He signs players for outrageous fortunes with no competition. His hit rate on good value sales is horrific. His hit rate in value for money purchases is no better.

He’s a cnut to deal with. But one that never winds up with fabulous deals for his club from a financial standpoint.
 
Abraxas said:
Weird to me. I'm not sure I'd be enthused about joining Bayern if I was Kane. Winning their 46th Bundesliga in a row. I mean really, if you don't win a CL which is always tough then you really haven't moved the needle. Would sooner run my contract down and have many top clubs interested.
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Bayern with Kane would be second favourites for the CL I reckon.
 
Basically Levy will keep him this season to help push for a Champions League spot, and who knows, they might keep him if they do. Selling Kane is of no benefit to them as they will likely not get an adequate replacement and will cause their supporters who were already saying "Levy out" last season even more ammunition. If it becomes clear Kane will leave on a free, a full media blitz of propaganda will come from Tottenham making Kane look like the bad guy for greedily choosing money over his boyhood club. 100 Million for Kane doesn't mean much when that gets 2 adequate players or one decent one in todays market.

It's hard to feel bad for Kane. Knowing he's a boyhood fan of Tottenham, he should've known how Tottenham operates and how foolish it was to sign that contract. Thinking Levy would be a man of his word after seeing how they operated in the past, is sheer stupidity on his and his agents part.
 
manutddjw said:
Basically Levy will keep him this season to help push for a Champions League spot, and who knows, they might keep him if they do. Selling Kane is of no benefit to them as they will likely not get an adequate replacement and will cause their supporters who were already saying "Levy out" last season even more ammunition. If it becomes clear Kane will leave on a free, a full media blitz of propaganda will come from Tottenham making Kane look like the bad guy for greedily choosing money over his boyhood club. 100 Million for Kane doesn't mean much when that gets 2 adequate players or one decent one in todays market.

It's hard to feel bad for Kane. Knowing he's a boyhood fan of Tottenham, he should've known how Tottenham operates and how foolish it was to sign that contract. Thinking Levy would be a man of his word after seeing how they operated in the past, is sheer stupidity on his and his agents part.
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Just have to use the money smartly, could get Toney in January and survive with Richarlison for the first few months and get a few midfielders in as that's where they struggled the most, they have no Europe so don't need a huge squad and manager will be afforded time to do things his way rather than play in a way around Kane and then have to re-build that plan after 1 year if/ when Kane leaves.
 
Laurencio said:
Build the team up a bit more this season, try to get the most our of him, and splash the cash next season on a new striker when he leaves for a free anyway.
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Next year he will leave for free. Then Spurs is missing 70+ million Euro.
Keeping Kane would only make sense, if he signs a new contract or they win silverware next season. Both is extremely unlikely.

Add there aren't any other (serious) bidders, Levy is left with little choice.
 
fezzerUTD said:
All the big clubs could just go round telling players not to renew their contracts and get a big signing on bonus off them thats why. It would be terrible for clubs which survive off buying for cheap and selling at a considerable profit.
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And what's so horrible about that? If a player doesn't want to renew, he can always let his contract run out. What right does the club have to be mad? They're getting what's agreed upon - they can use the player for the full contract length.
 
UnrelatedPsuedo said:
This is such a myth. He’s not a good football player businessman. He sells players at market rate or below. He signs players for outrageous fortunes with no competition. His hit rate on good value sales is horrific. His hit rate in value for money purchases is no better.

He’s a cnut to deal with. But one that never winds up with fabulous deals for his club from a financial standpoint.
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Based on what you said imo it's more like he doesn't know shit about football and greedy af. And I have no idea wth is a football player businessman mate.
 
B. Munich said:
Next year he will leave for free. Then Spurs is missing 70+ million Euro.
Keeping Kane would only make sense, if he signs a new contract or they win silverware next season. Both is extremely unlikely.

Add there aren't any other (serious) bidders, Levy is left with little choice.
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But I think what people don't factor into all this is that Daniel Levy will fancy signing Kane up during the course of the season. It's always painted as it must be sell or lose him for free in Levy's mind but that's probably not the case. And Levy's mind is the one that counts for this summer.

That's probably part of his play when he's not enthusiastic about selling Kane this summer. I guess Kane's previous decision making would give him some reason to have optimism irrespective of what he's currently saying.

If it happens time will tell if he's right on that but I reckon he really does fancy that scenario.
 
Wiesenlooser said:
And what's so horrible about that? If a player doesn't want to renew, he can always let his contract run out. What right does the club have to be mad? They're getting what's agreed upon - they can use the player for the full contract length.
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You want a super league as well? Seems fitting for a Bayern fan not caring about big clubs hoovering all the talent for cheap so there is no competition in the leagues. Reminds me of somewhere.
 
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