Harry Kane | Bayern Munich player

Abraxas said:
But I think what people don't factor into all this is that Daniel Levy will fancy signing Kane up during the course of the season. It's always painted as it must be sell or lose him for free in Levy's mind but that's probably not the case. And Levy's mind is the one that counts for this summer.

That's probably part of his play when he's not enthusiastic about selling Kane this summer. I guess Kane's previous decision making would give him some reason to have optimism irrespective of what he's currently saying.

If it happens time will tell if he's right on that but I reckon he really does fancy that scenario.
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Doubt it. Some players tend to sign such contracts to save/repay the club (with their transfer fees) but those players are generally young and also they are not important players yet.

Kane has already done that when he signed last big contract and I am sure he was given Gentlemen's word that he would be allowed for huge fee , like we did with Ronaldo for an instance. Spurs are away from competing PL / CL for atleast another 5 years , I dont think even Kane is that dumb to sign one more contract with Spurs.
 
If I’m Kane I’d rather stay at Spurs for 1 more year than move to Bayern and then have my pick of clubs next summer (as well as a boat load of cash) while still chasing down the all time PL scoring record.

I just think to come this close to achieving the record is daft to throw away for some Bundesliga’s and maybe a shot at the CL, though in no way guaranteed. In a years time all of United, Chelsea, Liverpool, Newcastle will come in for him (heck maybe even City if Halaand goes to Spain) and he can pick whichever club looks the best bet for trophies while staying on track to get that record as well.

I don’t get the allure of Bayern for him unless it’s literally just any trophy will do, even that will remain an option in 12 months if needed.
 
fezzerUTD said:
You want a super league as well? Seems fitting for a Bayern fan not caring about big clubs hoovering all the talent for cheap so there is no competition in the leagues. Reminds me of somewhere.
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I don't understand how the one thing has anything to do with the other. There's also a bunch of players moving between top-clubs after the contract runs out. We lost Alaba to Real for free for instance.

If a player and a club agree on a 5 year contract - what right does the club have to get mad when the contract runs out? That is literally the whole point of the agreement.if United would now negotiate with Kane and agree on signing him next year - what is unethical about it? Both Kane and Tottenham fulfilled their obligation.

No club has an inherent right to sell a player. A transfer fee is just a compensation for the club to let a player go before the end of the contract length.

So no, I don't think it should be illegal for a club to contact and negotiate with players from other clubs in the final contract year. I don't consider it as unethical or unfair to anyone involved.

The Super League is an entirely different thing. My feeling is it won't happen but the Champions League will be reformed to essnetially replace the Super League, but we definitely need a longer international league or else it will be tough for other international clubs outside of the Premier League to remain relevant
 
skc_18 said:
Doubt it. Some players tend to sign such contracts to save/repay the club (with their transfer fees) but those players are generally young and also they are not important players yet.

Kane has already done that when he signed last big contract and I am sure he was given Gentlemen's word that he would be allowed for huge fee , like we did with Ronaldo for an instance. Spurs are away from competing PL / CL for atleast another 5 years , I dont think even Kane is that dumb to sign one more contract with Spurs.
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That's your opinion more than it probably represents Levy's thinking. If it comes down to not selling Kane despite large offers then it will say to me that Levy thinks differently because not even he would want the scenario of losing a huge payday on a player that subsequently leaves for free with no particular idea behind taking that risk. You wouldn't just stumble into that idea as a strategist at this level. The idea will be to convince Harry Kane. It probably shouldn't work if Kane has his sensible hat on but I think that will be the rationale because not much else makes sense. Forcing a year for the sake of it only makes sense if there is another hand Levy is trying to play because it's not like it's going to produce a league title.

I think Plan A is probably to get a huge sum out of Bayern, but if Plan A doesn't work it seems clear Plan B is keep him and there has to be a plan for that. Plan C of selling to a domestic club such as us isn't even being entertained which suggests to me that Levy is fully ready to keep Kane without the right bid as he's not opening up options to sell, he's closing them off.

Things do move on in football...I've seen weirder things happen. Big Ange might have a cracking season and be extremely persuasive. That will be the type of thing Levy is hoping for. He'll be trying to scrimp and save every last penny to put the biggest possible contract in front of Kane at the right stage of the season. Probably 8 years with an option to become manager at the end!
 
Riz said:
If I’m Kane I’d rather stay at Spurs for 1 more year than move to Bayern and then have my pick of clubs next summer (as well as a boat load of cash) while still chasing down the all time PL scoring record.

I just think to come this close to achieving the record is daft to throw away for some Bundesliga’s and maybe a shot at the CL, though in no way guaranteed. In a years time all of United, Chelsea, Liverpool, Newcastle will come in for him (heck maybe even City if Halaand goes to Spain) and he can pick whichever club looks the best bet for trophies while staying on track to get that record as well.

I don’t get the allure of Bayern for him unless it’s literally just any trophy will do, even that will remain an option in 12 months if needed.
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What if he tears an ACL, ruptures an achilles, or simply has a terrible season? Bayern is the safest bet to win his first ever domestic trophy, be in contention for the CL and have him in contention for the Ballon d'Or.

He's 30, not 20. He would be stupid to turn them down and wait a season.
 
Oooh look at me, i won the league with Bayern Munich. Yeah they would have won it without me but hey, here i am and i didn't stop them from winning. AKA the "Poch trophy." It's a Spurs thing lads.
 
If Bayern really offered 70 million, I struggle to understand Levy's thinking. Kane is 30.

Leaving aside the fact that he has only a year left on his contract (which is also huge), surely getting that sort of money for a player entering the twilight of his career is a coup.
 
Hound Dog said:
If Bayern really offered 70 million, I struggle to understand Levy's thinking. Kane is 30.

Leaving aside the fact that he has only a year left on his contract (which is also huge), surely getting that sort of money for a player entering the twilight of his career is a coup.
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His line of thinking seems to be “well you can’t find a better striker than Kane for 70m”

No shit. If you could, Bayern would be after him instead. But it’s a hell of a lot easier trying to replace him with 70m than it is with 0m.
 
If Kane is willing to leave England and forfeit the EPL scoring record, he should at least go to Madrid, where he'd have a good shot at winning a prestigious league and a good shot at winning Champions League. Going to Germany to help Bayern win the Bundesliga for the 45th straight season isn't anything to be impressed with.

Of course, the best way to put his mark on history is to stay in England, come to United, help us defy the odds and steal trophies from City, and break the scoring record in the process.

But, since it seems like we're all in on signing Hojlund, the best we can hope for is that he runs his contract out at Spurs and then we can sign him on a free next summer.

It's just going to be such a shame if the greatest English striker of this generation is available at a time when United need an elite striker more than ever and we fail to make it happen.
 
Question for many people, if we sign a young striker this season (whether that's Hojlund or somebody else) and, by some manner, he explodes and scores 20/30 goals in the season. Would you still sign Harry Kane for a free next season and impede the young strikers development? Because if we sign Harry Kane then he is going to start every match. And we put the young striker who explodes on the backburner for a few seasons?
 
Riz said:
If I’m Kane I’d rather stay at Spurs for 1 more year than move to Bayern and then have my pick of clubs next summer (as well as a boat load of cash) while still chasing down the all time PL scoring record.

I just think to come this close to achieving the record is daft to throw away for some Bundesliga’s and maybe a shot at the CL, though in no way guaranteed. In a years time all of United, Chelsea, Liverpool, Newcastle will come in for him (heck maybe even City if Halaand goes to Spain) and he can pick whichever club looks the best bet for trophies while staying on track to get that record as well.

I don’t get the allure of Bayern for him unless it’s literally just any trophy will do, even that will remain an option in 12 months if needed.
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Yeah he will certainly have his pick of clubs next year that's for sure,makes sense for him to hold out until then really
 
2 man midfield said:
His line of thinking seems to be “well you can’t find a better striker than Kane for 70m”

No shit. If you could, Bayern would be after him instead. But it’s a hell of a lot easier trying to replace him with 70m than it is with 0m.
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To be fair to them, as it always is with Spurs, this season is another sort of cross roads for them with another new manager and a new impetus to better the last bad season. 70m is not 'worth' it for them to lose their best striker and player for the next 12 months as it could derail or massively hinder it. For PL clubs, especially one that's actually looking to achieve something, it's relatively affordable for them.
 
L1nk said:
Question for many people, if we sign a young striker this season (whether that's Hojlund or somebody else) and, by some manner, he explodes and scores 20/30 goals in the season. Would you still sign Harry Kane for a free next season and impede the young strikers development? Because if we sign Harry Kane then he is going to start every match. And we put the young striker who explodes on the backburner for a few seasons?
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I can't see him having an enormous jump up like that in goal returns,however I would still want to sign Kane because he is top class
 
the_cliff said:
If Kane goes to Levy and threatens to join Chelsea or Arsenal on a free Levy would take 50 mill from him from Bayern never mind 90.

Fact of the matter is Kane has probably given Levy some hope that he'll sign a new contract which shouldn't be that much of a surprise.
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Oh yeah he has definitely given Levy hope of signing another deal instead of being clear about wanting to leave whether that's now to Bayern or next summer to a host of clubs
 
Winning the Bundlesliga with Bayern is like losing your virginity to a prostitute. Meaningless achievement.
 
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Signing him and Amrabat instantly puts us up for a title challenge next few years. Hope Bayern get tired of Levy and move on and we can pull it off in August
 
Rolaholic said:


Money of professional fulfillment Harry?
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He could easily get around 400 k a week if he moves this year and earn even more once he is free agent next year , so it's not the question of Money or Professional fulfillment at all .
 
fezzerUTD said:
You want a super league as well? Seems fitting for a Bayern fan not caring about big clubs hoovering all the talent for cheap so there is no competition in the leagues. Reminds me of somewhere.
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He's completely right though, anything else would be unfair to the player.
 
MackRobinson said:
What if he tears an ACL, ruptures an achilles, or simply has a terrible season? Bayern is the safest bet to win his first ever domestic trophy, be in contention for the CL and have him in contention for the Ballon d'Or.

He's 30, not 20. He would be stupid to turn them down and wait a season.
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Disagree. What if all those things happened next season anyway and the only benefit is collecting a pay cheque each week in Bayern’s medical room? Wouldn’t let the small likelihood of a career ending injury guide this decision compared to all the more probably outcomes.

On a serious note I think I’d also rather be the PL all time top scorer than win the Ballon d’Or (e.g. Shearer vs Owen). And he has a much much better chance of the former anyway.
 
2 man midfield said:
His line of thinking seems to be “well you can’t find a better striker than Kane for 70m”

No shit. If you could, Bayern would be after him instead. But it’s a hell of a lot easier trying to replace him with 70m than it is with 0m.
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But that's not what we are talking about, 70m for kane for one season with no possibility to sell, Vs 70m for a player for 5 ish years with opportunities to sell.
 
Todd said:
If Kane is willing to leave England and forfeit the EPL scoring record, he should at least go to Madrid, where he'd have a good shot at winning a prestigious league and a good shot at winning Champions League. Going to Germany to help Bayern win the Bundesliga for the 45th straight season isn't anything to be impressed with.

Of course, the best way to put his mark on history is to stay in England, come to United, help us defy the odds and steal trophies from City, and break the scoring record in the process.

But, since it seems like we're all in on signing Hojlund, the best we can hope for is that he runs his contract out at Spurs and then we can sign him on a free next summer.

It's just going to be such a shame if the greatest English striker of this generation is available at a time when United need an elite striker more than ever and we fail to make it happen.
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We are not winning a major trophy, with or without him. He would waste the end of his career.
 
gajender said:
He could easily get around 400 k a week if he moves this year and earn even more once he is free agent next year , so it's not the question of Money or Professional fulfillment at all .
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I don't think Bayern pay those sorts of wages.
 
Hammondo said:
We are not winning a major trophy, with or without him. He would waste the end of his career.
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Do you mean we won’t win a major trophy until after Kane is past it / retired, even if he comes here? That’s a bit defeatist.

I don’t see why we can’t do what Arsenal did and keep it going for a few more weeks than they did. It’s not a wild idea imo. More difficult without a Kane-level goalscorer, unlikely, I’d agree; but with Kane? I don’t see why not.
 
Hammondo said:
But that's not what we are talking about, 70m for kane for one season with no possibility to sell, Vs 70m for a player for 5 ish years with opportunities to sell.
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Kane will be 30 in few days, not 40. He has plenty left in the tank.
 
Hammondo said:
I don't think Bayern pay those sorts of wages.
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Most Bayern supporting posters on here would disagree according to them they are pretty generous pay masters when it comes to their biggest Stars and Kane would be real coup if Bayern can get him and his wages would definitely reflect that .
 
Kane is not passing up his shot at the goal scoring record by joining Bayern.

It makes financial sense for his career post retirement as much as anything - Shearer has been dining off of it for nearly 20 years.
 
Adisa said:
I don't susbcribe to the notion that the EPL record is more important than medals. Records are always broken.
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not to mention, the opportunity to play for one of the biggest and best run clubs in the world before he retires
 
OrcaFat said:
Do you mean we won’t win a major trophy until after Kane is past it / retired, even if he comes here? That’s a bit defeatist.

I don’t see why we can’t do what Arsenal did and keep it going for a few more weeks than they did. It’s not a wild idea imo. More difficult without a Kane-level goalscorer, unlikely, I’d agree; but with Kane? I don’t see why not.
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Arsenal probably won't have a season like that for quite a long while, and they still finished 6 points off winning nothing. Maybe by your logic he should join Arsenal? I don't think any English team aside from City have a shot at a top title unless Liverpool bounce back hard.
 
gajender said:
Most Bayern supporting posters on here would disagree according to them they are pretty generous pay masters when it comes to their biggest Stars and Kane would be real coup if Bayern can get him and his wages would definitely reflect that .
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news to me, I didn't think they paid the highest wages, but obviously I could be wrong.
 
Hammondo said:
How on earth is that relevant to what I wrote?
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How is it 70 million for one season when you get many more than 1 season.

Hammondo said:
But that's not what we are talking about, 70m for kane for one season with no possibility to sell, Vs 70m for a player for 5 ish years with opportunities to sell.
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Edit, nevermind, i didn't read the context. Apologies.
 
Hammondo said:
Arsenal probably won't have a season like that for quite a long while, and they still finished 6 points off winning nothing. Maybe by your logic he should join Arsenal? I don't think any English team aside from City have a shot at a top title unless Liverpool bounce back hard.
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No. Look where Arsenal came from the year before to end up only 6 points off the title despite collapsing in the last few weeks. It merely shows what is possible.

If Kane does go to Arsenal that would certainly take them up a notch but given the other signings we’re making in this window, there’s no reason to doubt that, with Kane, we can do better than Arsenal did last year.

If he wants the best chance of winning the Prem he should go to City but that’s probably not an option for him.
 
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