Harry Kane | Bayern Munich player

croadyman said:
No chance because takeover saga will drag on
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I think we have more money than we’re letting on especially linked with Onana and Hojlund both at €50m a piece.

Think Hendo, McT & Fred will go and potentially Maguire and that will free up cash for Kane
 
UnitedSofa said:
I think we have more money than we’re letting on especially linked with Onana and Hojlund both at €50m a piece.

Think Hendo, McT & Fred will go and potentially Maguire and that will free up cash for Kane
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Admire your belief we can actually SELL 4 players
 
united_99 said:
I am 100% sure Kane would choose us over Bayern. Levy won’t sell to us but that’s a different topic.
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Why should he leave Tottenham to finally win titles and than join United? Wouldn't make any sense.
Kane would definitely rather join City than us, maybe also Liverpool but if he were to join you, Chelsea or Arsenal, he can also just stay at Tottenham.
 
UnitedSofa said:
I still have this funny feeling we’re gonna be in for him towards the end of the window
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Me too, said before that there's no other World Class striker who isn't already at one of the elite teams. Kane is the only piece of meat left to chew off the bone

I think it's Kane or bust. I'm quite confident Evan Ferguson will be one of the best PL strikers over the next decade, but he is out of reach too unless United throw stupid Kane level money at it
 
BayernFan87 said:
Why should he leave Tottenham to finally win titles and than join United? Wouldn't make any sense.
Kane would definitely rather join City than us, maybe also Liverpool but if he were to join you, Chelsea or Arsenal, he can also just stay at Tottenham.
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I agree Kane's unlikely to win anything of significance with United. But winning a Bundesliga is hardly a glittering achievement these days, is it? I'd wager being the PL's all time top scorer is something he'd covet more.
 
LawCharltonBest said:
Me too, said before that there's no other World Class striker who isn't already at one of the elite teams. Kane is the only piece of meat left to chew off the bone

I think it's Kane or bust. I'm quite confident Evan Ferguson will be one of the best PL strikers over the next decade, but he is out of reach too unless United throw stupid Kane level money at it
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So what's gonna start it all then
 
BayernFan87 said:
Why should he leave Tottenham to finally win titles and than join United? Wouldn't make any sense.
Kane would definitely rather join City than us, maybe also Liverpool but if he were to join you, Chelsea or Arsenal, he can also just stay at Tottenham.
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I don’t think Kane would do some calculations about league title or CL probabilities or anything like that. United has always been and still is very attractive especially to English players and he would almost certainly win more with us than with Spurs. You are obviously free to believe whatever you want.
 
united_99 said:
I don’t think Kane would do some calculations about league title or CL probabilities or anything like that. United has always been and still is very attractive especially to English players and he would almost certainly win more with us than with Spurs. You are obviously free to believe whatever you want.
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I just don’t see Utd rekindling this when they haven't the money to put in competitive bid
 
croadyman said:
So what's gonna start it all then
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I think it suits United to claim that they only have about £100-120m to spend due to FFP. I'd be surprised if it's not really more. I think the Glazers want to limit it there for now

I also am a bit gullible and stupid, so I still hang on to faint hope that the Glazers will have accepted an offer for the club by then. At which point you'd assume they'll already have their price secured and be less fecked about what United spend as it won't affect them.
 
Red Devil 26 said:
I agree Kane's unlikely to win anything of significance with United. But winning a Bundesliga is hardly a glittering achievement these days, is it? I'd wager being the PL's all time top scorer is something he'd covet more.
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If (and that is a very big if) he joins us, i think it will more be about the chance to win the CL and probably also a very good earning.

City is above all teams obviously, but even they lost Gündogan, might lose Bernardo Silva and de Bruyne is also not getting younger. Also Pep won't stay there forever. It remains to be seen if City can maintain their current level for the next 2 or 3 years. And of course they already have Haaland.
Than you have Real, who seem to be saving money for Mbappe.

So where should Kane go for a better chance to win the CL in the next 4 years?
I don't say we are the big favorites to win it next year, but we've been in the top 4/5 favorites to win it according to bookies for over 10 years straight now.
 
LawCharltonBest said:
I think it suits United to claim that they only have about £100-120m to spend due to FFP. I'd be surprised if it's not really more. I think the Glazers want to limit it there for now

I also am a bit gullible and stupid, so I still hang on to faint hope that the Glazers will have accepted an offer for the club by then. At which point you'd assume they'll already have their price secured and be less fecked about what United spend as it won't affect them.
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Remember us saying something similar last year but fear this time it might actually be true
 
We are certainly going for our 3/4th options rather than the top of the market this summer. FFP and inability to sell players by using cheat methods such as Chelsea or City mean we just can’t go for the cream.

Links to mediocre footballers like Amrabat and an inability to get Kim over the line. Rice out of our budget etc just tell the story.

Kane won’t come here. I honestly believe the club needs to seriously think about having Greenwood as the first or second choice CF.

He’s a footballer who has more than got the ability and we aren’t in a position to sign anyone better than him as sad as it sounds. Mason is a ridiculous footballer at times. Certainly a higher ceiling than anyone we could sign up front.
 
Son said:
We are certainly going for our 3/4th options rather than the top of the market this summer. FFP and inability to sell players by using cheat methods such as Chelsea or City mean we just can’t go for the cream.

Links to mediocre footballers like Amrabat and an inability to get Kim over the line. Rice out of our budget etc just tell the story.

Kane won’t come here. I honestly believe the club needs to seriously think about having Greenwood as the first or second choice CF.

He’s a footballer who has more than got the ability and we aren’t in a position to sign anyone better than him as sad as it sounds. Mason is a ridiculous footballer at times. Certainly a higher ceiling than anyone we could sign up front.
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Erik has to take everyone into account
 
croadyman said:
Remember us saying something similar last year but fear this time it might actually be true
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It could well be.

What leans me into thinking that they have more in reality (or will have more nearer the end of the window) is that they've just commited £55m of the budget on a midfielder.

Ten Hag knows we need a striker as a priority. I can't see him leaving himself in a position where he doesn't have enough to get a top class #9

This is without going into the GK situation which will become urgent if De Gea doesn't return
 
LawCharltonBest said:
It could well be.

What leans me into thinking that they have more in reality (or will have more nearer the end of the window) is that they've just commited £55m of the budget on a midfielder.

Ten Hag knows we need a striker as a priority. I can't see him leaving himself in a position where he doesn't have enough to get a top class #9

This is without going into the GK situation which will become urgent if De Gea doesn't return
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Yeah that commitment to paying £55m for Mount does give me hope there is more than being reported,however we also probably expected to make more from sales which hasn't happened yet.
 
Acrobat7 said:
But is this "most league goals since 1992" really such a big deal? There was football before the PL in Britain and others have scored more goals in it than Shearer.
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Absolutely agree with you. It's happened because of football sitting in the main with one TV company since '92 and creating a brand, which in the main seems to have worked with only 'Premier League' records being discussed now in popular culture.

I realise I sound old and I'm shouting at clouds, but it really is a nonsense that goals scored in the top flight 1991 don't count and goals in 1992 do? Lots of players straddled both 'eras' such as Rush, Cottee and Sheringham.

For what it's worth Shearer is the 5th top, Kane currently the 19th top and Greaves is number 1.

English top flight top 50 goalscorers
 
Turnbl said:
Absolutely agree with you. It's happened because of football sitting in the main with one TV company since '92 and creating a brand, which in the main seems to have worked with only 'Premier League' records being discussed now in popular culture.

I realise I sound old and I'm shouting at clouds, but it really is a nonsense that goals scored in the top flight 1991 don't count and goals in 1992 do? Lots of players straddled both 'eras' such as Rush, Cottee and Sheringham.

For what it's worth Shearer is the 5th top, Kane currently the 19th top and Greaves is number 1.

English top flight top 50 goalscorers
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I think it’s especially weird given the gigantic history football has in the UK. To basically disregard three quarters of that doesn’t make sense to me.
 
Lash said:
We can be, but it would be dumb. There's even less chance of Spurs selling towards the end of the window.
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But there’s pressure as it’ll be the last chance to get cash for him. Swings and roundabouts.
 
UnitedSofa said:
But there’s pressure as it’ll be the last chance to get cash for him. Swings and roundabouts.
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I don't think there's a great deal of pressure if you can't spend that cash on a replacement and you let your new manager do a full pre-season with him.
 
jadajos said:
So clearly there is some obvious benefits, even though I will be the first to admit the Bundesliga is not competitive anymore. I’m German and haven’t watched it in years, last time was maybe 7-8 years ago when you could still tell yourself that the league is somewhat competitive without bursting into laughter right after.
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Title race went down to the last day, with Dortmund needing a win to take it. Poor year to make that kind of call.
 
UnrelatedPsuedo said:
Title race went down to the last day, with Dortmund needing a win to take it. Poor year to make that kind of call.
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It’s the perfect year to make that call. Worst points tally by Bayern in 13 years and they still won the league. Tells you everything you need to know. Last time Bayern had a similar amount of points 14 years ago they ended up second. The year before that they came in third.

Nowadays there just isn’t anyone left to step in when they slip up. Dortmund had a home game against a Mainz side who had nothing to play for, a team at the beach. And they bottled it.

There is no team that can keep up over a full season as Bayerns squad is just miles ahead in quality and depth. And even if they slip up once in over a decade there’s just no one to even better them at their worst.
 
jadajos said:
It’s the perfect year to make that call. Worst points tally by Bayern in 13 years and they still won the league. Tells you everything you need to know. Last time Bayern had a similar amount of points 14 years ago they ended up second. The year before that they came in third.

Nowadays there just isn’t anyone left to step in when they slip up. Dortmund had a home game against a Mainz side who had nothing to play for, a team at the beach. And they bottled it.

There is no team that can keep up over a full season as Bayerns squad is just miles ahead in quality and depth. And even if they slip up once in over a decade there’s just no one to even better them at their worst.
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The past 10 years in almost all but the Premier League have been a dark era for league football.
There’s a reason average football fans are caring less and less for European domestic Leagues.

It’s almost pointless when a side wins it 10 on the bounce for everyone involved including the winners as their league is now not attractive.
 
Red Devil 26 said:
I agree Kane's unlikely to win anything of significance with United. But winning a Bundesliga is hardly a glittering achievement these days, is it? I'd wager being the PL's all time top scorer is something he'd covet more.
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Being the PL top scorer of all time is a better and bigger achievement than winning a Bundesliga
 
Murder on Zidane's Floor said:
Being the PL top scorer of all time is a better and bigger achievement than winning a Bundesliga
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I'd much prefer to win even the Bundesliga. The competitive aim of football is to win trophies, individual awards are relatively meaningless in comparison. And this particular individual award is less prestigous than the Ballon d'Or, say. Outside of the UK nobody cares who the all time PL scorer is.

Also, someone else can come along to overtake you as top scorer, but trophy wins are forever.
 
cyberman said:
..couldn’t give a feck about the Bundesliga, really.
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Kane seems a like he'd be quite passive when surrounded by bigger personalities

I can imagine they'll all sort out the move for him and he'll just go along with it because it's what everyone else wants

Bayern are a huge, historic club. But that league is nothing to leave the PL for when he'll have his choice of clubs in 10 months.
 
sullydnl said:
I'd much prefer to win even the Bundesliga. The competitive aim of football is to win trophies, individual awards are relatively meaningless in comparison. And this particular individual award is less prestigous than the Ballon d'Or, say. Outside of the UK nobody cares who the all time PL scorer is.

Also, someone else can come along to overtake you as top scorer, but trophy wins are forever.
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Erm, were the most watched league globally. I think they care.
 
Murder on Zidane's Floor said:
Erm, were the most watched league globally. I think they care.
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People care about the PL. They don't care about a relatively meaningless "top scorer" record. Just as most fans who primarily watch the PL don't particularly care who the all time scorer in La Liga, Serie A or the Bundesliga is.

And if it wasn't England captain Harry Kane closing in on Shearer's record, and if Kane had anything else going for him at Spurs, we'd have heard less about it from the English media in recent years too.
 
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