Harry Kane | Bayern Munich player

MegadrivePerson said:
This has to be a wind up?

Kane has never won any English trophies and the only team that could pretty much guarantee him that now have Haaland.

Ask yourself this,

Which team are more likely to win the League and or Champions League next season out of Spurs, Man United and Real Madrid?
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Not saying this isn’t true but Madrids league winning record is sketchy at best. It was 1 in 9 or something before they won it last season. So that must be 2 in 11. W heave 1 in 10!
It’s not as if it’s only this season that all the top sides are in for him. Kane has answered this question time and time again by staying at Spurs. I’ve long since said it seems as if team accolades mean little to him and it’s all about the personal records
 
MegadrivePerson said:
This has to be a wind up?

Kane has never won any English trophies and the only team that could pretty much guarantee him that now have Haaland.

Ask yourself this,

Which team are more likely to win the League and or Champions League next season out of Spurs, Man United and Real Madrid?
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There is a flipside to this question though - which team is he more likely to thrive at. He's a great player, but Madrid is a bit more of a risk from a performance and personal life perspective. What if his young family don't settle well there, what if his pregnant wife gets lonely without friends and family around all the time? What if he doesn't enjoy playing in the humidity of Madrid?

I absolutely understand the trophy argument, but if Madrid pay huge amounts for Kane - at his age - he is going to need to perform straight away, and there are lots of factors that could influence that which are less likely to be a problem if he stays in England.
 
Rusholme Ruffian said:
I know what the guy is saying. Bale certainly won a lot of trophies, I'm not sure he really made the most of his talents though - he seemed to spend most of the last 5 years on the golf course.
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Was that not due to a general lack of fitness? Same with Hazard?

I mean you can look at them, but then you can equally point to Modric or Suarez who went over there and hit insane heights.

Doesn’t seem like there’s any kind of generalization that’s there to be made.
 
Cloud7 said:
Was that not due to a general lack of fitness? Same with Hazard?

I mean you can look at them, but then you can equally point to Modric or Suarez who went over there and hit insane heights.

Doesn’t seem like there’s any kind of generalization that’s there to be made.
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Some of it being down to niggly injuries, some of it down to lack of being arsed. He basically seemed to semi-retire when he had a bit of a fight for his place on his hands. No-one could get anywhere near to matching his ridiculous wages, and he wasn't prepared to take a cut so he opted to just stay at Madrid as a bench option. Not saying I blame him per se, but he could have gone down as pretty legendary figure (although obviously not Ronaldo/Messi level) if had moved to a different club. As it is he's only a legend in Wales.
 
cyberman said:
Not saying this isn’t true but Madrids league winning record is sketchy at best. It was 1 in 9 or something before they won it last season. So that must be 2 in 11. W heave 1 in 10!
It’s not as if it’s only this season that all the top sides are in for him. Kane has answered this question time and time again by staying at Spurs. I’ve long since said it seems as if team accolades mean little to him and it’s all about the personal records
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They have won three league titles since our last one so 3 in 10 compared to our 0 in 10.
 
Something tells me he would very much prefer to stay in England and get the chance to beat Shearer's record which is one even people not familiar with the Premiership know about.

The point about the pregnant wife is also important. It's always been said it's better to have the family around in such circumstances.

However, Daniel Levy seems the biggest obstacle in front of Manchester United interests right now. He's very hard to negotiate with and does not seem the type of guy that would accept dealing with a rival in the same league to sell on of his most important players, if not the most important one.
 
Signing for Madrid is a no-brainer, really. We can't offer the same as Real Madrid offers nowadays, unfrotunatelly, unless his dream is to wear a red Manchester shirt.
 
He won't sign for Madrid.

Either United buy him or he goes for free next year. Can't see him moving abroad at all
 
MegadrivePerson said:
This has to be a wind up?

Kane has never won any English trophies and the only team that could pretty much guarantee him that now have Haaland.

Ask yourself this,

Which team are more likely to win the League and or Champions League next season out of Spurs, Man United and Real Madrid?
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Not everyone needs to have the same motivations.

Kane has never won a trophy, that's true. But he's securing his legacy instead by being the best striker of his generation and a Premier League record breaker. It's only because we're Manchester United fans that we insist silverware is the be all and end all. But there can be more than one perspective to this.

If Kane goes to Madrid, he'll end his career with maybe a couple of La Ligas and as only the second best PL goal scorer in history. That's good but not exactly amazing. If he were to accept trophy-winning as the most important metric, he'd never even be able to compare himself to Phil Neville. Focussing on some different is an understandable rationalisation for him in that respect.

By staying in England, he'll end his career as the number one PL goal scorer of all time and get mentioned for years to come whenever Sky Sports do a piece on the next new wonderkid.

Sometimes it's not all about the shiny things you get to keep in your cabinet. Seemingly, Kane would rather rather have his own paragraph in the Guinness Book of Records and be a different kind of legend. Like a regular Joe picking his career over starting a family, it's what he thinks will leave the biggest mark on the world, even if the rest of us think he's crazy.

I think he'll stay at Spurs for another year.
 
Devil You Know said:
Not everyone needs to have the same motivations.

Kane has never won a trophy, that's true. But he's securing his legacy instead by being the best striker of his generation and a Premier League record breaker. It's only because we're Manchester United fans that we insist silverware is the be all and end all. But there can be more than one perspective to this.

If Kane goes to Madrid, he'll end his career with maybe a couple of La Ligas and as only the second best PL goal scorer in history. That's good but not exactly amazing. If he were to accept trophy-winning as the most important metric, he'd never even be able to compare himself to Phil Neville. Focussing on some different is an understandable rationalisation for him in that respect.

By staying in England, he'll end his career as the number one PL goal scorer of all time and get mentioned for years to come whenever Sky Sports do a piece on the next new wonderkid.

Sometimes it's not all about the shiny things you get to keep in your cabinet. Seemingly, Kane would rather rather have his own paragraph in the Guinness Book of Records and be a different kind of legend. Like a regular Joe picking his career over starting a family, it's what he thinks will leave the biggest mark on the world, even if the rest of us think he's crazy.

I think he'll stay at Spurs for another year.
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I think people really overestimate the importance of that record. Ultimately, its the goals scored that are much more important, not the record itself. Holding the record is only one part of Alan Shearer's legacy. It's not like if Kane breaks the record people will just forget about him. And for Shearer himself, I have no doubt that he'd rather give up the record than give up his PL title.

Kane is also in a very difficult position as someone who hasn't won a single trophy. It is remarkably unusual for a player of his stature to literally win feck all over their entire career. That a player like Le Tissier is the closest analogy really says it all. If he finishes his career without any trophies, even if he smashes the PL record, the fact that he won nothing will be a central aspect of his legacy. Written on his PL tombstone will be something like "Harry Kane, the most prolific PL striker of all time and also a player who won nothing and never had the ambition to challenge himself and go to a club where he could win trophies." He is a competitive, top level athlete - that simply has to grate on him badly.

Whether he breaks the record or not, he'll always be one of the greatest PL strikers of all time. Erasing that second clause from the tombstone - and just experiencing the joy of winning something big - is surely much more important to him than whether or not he happens to pass Shearer.
 
Lecland07 said:
I don't think he wants the PL goals record as much as has been made out. Most of it has come from the media, and I don't remember Kane ever bringing it up himself once. It is always the media who ask and he is hardly going to say 'I really don't give a shit'.

He never actually sounds that interested in goal scoring records; it is always very normal responses that anyone would say e.g. 'Yeah, it is nice to break the record

I believe it is more a media-driven narrative.
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Unreal post.
He's mentioned it many a time and it's very clear it's his biggest target.

There's not a chance he risks going to Madrid for 2-3 years and reduces his chances of hitting it.
 
Difficult one for Kane really. The only place he will be guaranteed a PL trophy (or any big trophy) for an English team at the moment is at City, and they have Haaland. So do you move abroad and pick up some less meaningful league trophy at Real Madrid or Bayern Munich, stay put or take a gamble at a team like United or even Chelsea knowing that it may damage your reputation with Spurs at the same time.
 
I think we'd be the ideal move for him still in purely footballing terms. He'd still be able to go for those big personal records while having a much better chance at some silverware than at Spurs. Sure the Premier League & Champions league look a stretch still, but you have to think we'd have won another domestic / europa trophy had we had Kane these past few years.

I think at this point in his career it makes sense to prioritise personal accolades over trophies, but as spurs he has no chance of the latter.
 
One thing is for sure, if Levy does not allow him to go to another English club this year and that record is his biggest challenge, then he will end his contract at Spurs and then will freely choose his destination club in the Premier League.
 
Daniel Levy is an absolute wanker and a toxic owner imo.

He’s cutting his nose to spite his face here and it’ll not bode well for his own future signings.

I wouldn’t go near him if I was a player, especially when clubs like Brighton and Brentford have a much more realistic grasp of their level and their role in players’ careers, and they also play better football and are in Europe in Brighton’s case.

Levy’s starting to seem like a dinosaur tbh. It feels like his relevance is slipping.
 
Kane scored in 27 different PL games (a record).....yes he had an ankle injury that forced him to miss time a few years back but ever since then, he's been a regular player missing very few matches.
 
Chief123 said:
Yeah, Bale destroyed his career to leave the trophy machine Spurs and end up wasting his time winning 5 Champions leagues at bottlers Real Madrid.
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I literally had to read that back to myself 3 times to make sure that someone really had Bale down as destroying his career with his move to Madrid :lol:
 
Sadly for Kane he’s working under an absolute idiot. He won’t get to move unless he runs his contract down. Pushing on 30 and still waiting for his first trophy. Should have moved a few years back.
 
If Kane was ambitious, he'd kick up a fuss to sign for Madrid, especially now that their main centre forward has left.
 
Rhyme Animal said:
Daniel Levy is an absolute wanker and a toxic owner imo.

He’s cutting his nose to spite his face here and it’ll not bode well for his own future signings.

I wouldn’t go near him if I was a player, especially when clubs like Brighton and Brentford have a much more realistic grasp of their level and their role in players’ careers, and they also play better football and are in Europe in Brighton’s case.

Levy’s starting to seem like a dinosaur tbh. It feels like his relevance is slipping.
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I think Bale, Modric and in some way Berbatov transfers might have probably turned him into that way. All those players were bought for a relatively low fee compared to the what they were sold. I wont be surprised if Levy still thinks he can sign unknown players and turn them into super stars.
Hopefully it is not too late before Levy realizes that Kane is probably the last golden goose in that squad.
 
Dyslexic Untied said:
Difficult one for Kane really. The only place he will be guaranteed a PL trophy (or any big trophy) for an English team at the moment is at City, and they have Haaland. So do you move abroad and pick up some less meaningful league trophy at Real Madrid or Bayern Munich, stay put or take a gamble at a team like United or even Chelsea knowing that it may damage your reputation with Spurs at the same time.
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How on earth is a Spanish league title for Madrid, who many would argue are the biggest club in the world a "less meaningful" league title for bloody hell's sake :lol:
 
Sandikan said:
How on earth is a Spanish league title for Madrid, who many would argue are the biggest club in the world a "less meaningful" league title for bloody hell's sake :lol:
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I wonder too :lol:, it's nothing like the Bayernliga.

They've had 3 different champions the past 3 seasons, more parity than the 'more valuable' one horse PL
 
Ish said:
I literally had to read that back to myself 3 times to make sure that someone really had Bale down as destroying his career with his move to Madrid :lol:
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The guy literally got his dream outcome. Lots of trophies at the top level and then paid one of the highest salaries in the world for the last few years to basically do what he loves…play golf.
 
Rolaholic said:
I wonder too :lol:, it's nothing like the Bayernliga.

They've had 3 different champions the past 3 seasons, more parity than the 'more valuable' one horse PL
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Even the Spanish teams are bored of their league. It’s all about the CL for them because La Liga has tuned into a slog to get through.
 
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