Harry Kane | Bayern Munich player

I dont get why people are suggesting that Kane force through a move. Didnt he try that last summer with that interview with Neville and everything else? It didnt work.

He realises Levy is prideful and arrogant. The best option is just to run down his contract. Shouldnt have signed that 8 year contract in the first place.
 
Adisa said:
Frustrations on Kane aside, how poor is Levy as a football director?
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Proof that being the most "hardball" negotiator in premier league history is actually just cutting your nose to spite your face. Spurs have needed a major overhaul for ages and had they sanctioned a mega Kane move to City when they came knocking could have funded significant transfers. Think they're the only team to sign no players in back to back transfer windows (can't remember under who, but it was recent).

Levy is a moron.
 
Spark said:
Proof that being the most "hardball" negotiator in premier league history is actually just cutting your nose to spite your face. Spurs have needed a major overhaul for ages and had they sanctioned a mega Kane move to City when they came knocking could have funded significant transfers. Think they're the only team to sign no players in back to back transfer windows (can't remember under who, but it was recent).

Levy is a moron.
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Under Pochettino.
 
Chief123 said:
The guy literally got his dream outcome. Lots of trophies at the top level and then paid one of the highest salaries in the world for the last few years to basically do what he loves…play golf.
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Yeah, absolutely bonkers take. Injuries and at the end, a lack of motivation from Bale's part "ruined" him, nothing to do with Madrid.
 
Powderfinger said:
I think people really overestimate the importance of that record. Ultimately, its the goals scored that are much more important, not the record itself. Holding the record is only one part of Alan Shearer's legacy. It's not like if Kane breaks the record people will just forget about him. And for Shearer himself, I have no doubt that he'd rather give up the record than give up his PL title.

Kane is also in a very difficult position as someone who hasn't won a single trophy. It is remarkably unusual for a player of his stature to literally win feck all over their entire career. That a player like Le Tissier is the closest analogy really says it all. If he finishes his career without any trophies, even if he smashes the PL record, the fact that he won nothing will be a central aspect of his legacy. Written on his PL tombstone will be something like "Harry Kane, the most prolific PL striker of all time and also a player who won nothing and never had the ambition to challenge himself and go to a club where he could win trophies." He is a competitive, top level athlete - that simply has to grate on him badly.

Whether he breaks the record or not, he'll always be one of the greatest PL strikers of all time. Erasing that second clause from the tombstone - and just experiencing the joy of winning something big - is surely much more important to him than whether or not he happens to pass Shearer.
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Importance to whom? Because this is the Harry Kane thread, and evidently it's important to the person who's actually at the heart of this discussion.

You've completely missed my point where I said different people can have different priorities, which means that trophies aren't necessarily the be all and end all for everybody. For what it's worth, I'd actually agree with you if I were in his shoes, so I'm not trying to slag you off here. But I'm not Harry Kane and neither are you, and that's what we have to accept based on the evidence of his career choices so far.

https://www.redcafe.net/threads/who...rsenal-or-man-utd.477503/page-3#post-30641465

Here's a thread where Arsenal fans are arguing that it's not always about trophies. You might want to tell some of your mates they're wrong and that Arteta was a failure this season :p
 
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Adisa said:
Frustrations on Kane aside, how poor is Levy as a football director?
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I think he prides himself on his reputation as a tough negotiator. It's become an ego thing for him. Unless they're confident they can get Kane to sign another contract, the smart move is clearly to cash in and rebuild. They're not getting top 4 next season anyway, with or without Kane.
 
HookedOnAPhelan said:
I think he prides himself on his reputation as a tough negotiator. It's become an ego thing for him. Unless they're confident they can get Kane to sign another contract, the smart move is clearly to cash in and rebuild. They're not getting top 4 next season anyway, with or without Kane.
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He's got a massive chip on his shoulder about not letting Spurs look like a smaller club than United, even though they clearly are. It's hard when you realise that there's a pecking order and you are not at the top - we had to get our heads around that when Ronaldo wanted to leave (the first time). It's good to dig your heels in sometimes but other times you have to see the bigger picture and make an emotionless, pragmatic decision.
 
Never stops to amuse me some United fans are against you signing Kane, fecking baffling. You would be in a guaranteed title hunt. Mind googling.
 
I can't see United buying a 100 million pound CF no matter how much the media want to run the story all summer.
 
Is there any point in Levy being "hardball" over Kane?

For anyone else it makes sense to try and squeeze an extortionate fee and sell abroad to allow you to rebuild and not strengthen your rivals. For Tottenham all of that is a bit pointless isn't it?

I mean they did that with Bale and managed to end up with £100m. Other teams would use £100m to improve their squad significantly. Tottenham used it on Roberto Soldado and special magic beer cups that fill up from the bottom instead of the top.

Like if you give your grandad £50 to do the weekly shop and he comes back with a pot noodle and some magic beans he bought from a random hobo.
 
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If I were Levy I wouldn't sell Kane. It seems crazy, even stupid, when you just look at the surface of it. If you have a good season in the Champions League, you can earn 60-70 million euros (bonuses from UEFA, TV rights, ticket sales, etc). Club buys time and has a year to find Kane's successor. Maybe even Harry, seeing the club in the top 4 PL after reinforcements, will extend his contract in next year. The most important thing is that no one good striker is going to come to a club that doesn't play in the CL! If such a player will be found, he will only do it for the money. Why would a club want a player with no ambition? In other words, without Kane Spurs have no chance of reaching the Champions League next season.
 
LilyWhiteSpur said:
Never stops to amuse me some United fans are against you signing Kane, fecking baffling. You would be in a guaranteed title hunt. Mind googling.
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its not that we dont want him....its just that with Levy you know the money involved is gonna be ridiculous to presuade him to let Kane leave and taking his age into account it really does start to look less attractive.

The guy is on his final year of his contract but the money that its gonna take to get him to move you would think he had 3 years left and with the unknown status of our transfer budget due to the takeover situation it becomes a case of how do we maximise this transfer window so that we can get as many signings that can deal with the problems in our squad.
 
This Kane saga has made me reflect on the Modric transfer and how influential that ended up being.

Modric wanted to go to Chelsea, Levy said no and he ended up going to Madrid. How different might the two clubs have fared in the last decade had he ended up at Chelsea?

Would Chelsea's fate have been different, in what is generally an unstable environment already? A few years of peak Kante and peak Modric, for example, would have been monstrous. On the other hand, I don't think Real win as many trophies as they did without Modric.
 
Adisa said:
If not Kane, who are the other top strikers we could sign?
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Osimhen, but he’ll be just as (probably more) expensive and just as (probably more) difficult to prise from Napoli.

After that, it’s a bunch of hybrid strikers or total punts from tax leagues like Kolo Muani, Gonçalo Ramos, Hojlund and Ferguson.

Any no.9 who has any sort of pace and can hit the ball in the onion bag is a massive upgrade on the nonentities we have upfront but it’s really not a great market.
 
LilyWhiteSpur said:
Never stops to amuse me some United fans are against you signing Kane, fecking baffling. You would be in a guaranteed title hunt. Mind googling.
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Ye but I think the majority of our fans that are against it is because your idiot of an owner wants like 200m :lol: That’s ridiculous when he knows Full well he ain’t getting that. I hope he runs is contract down and leaves for nothing next year.
 
VWW said:
its not that we dont want him....its just that with Levy you know the money involved is gonna be ridiculous to presuade him to let Kane leave and taking his age into account it really does start to look less attractive.

The guy is on his final year of his contract but the money that its gonna take to get him to move you would think he had 3 years left and with the unknown status of our transfer budget due to the takeover situation it becomes a case of how do we maximise this transfer window so that we can get as many signings that can deal with the problems in our squad.
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He is a guaranteed 25-30 goal a season striker, Levy is an arsehole but he’s not thick. If you can get him for £100m you will be laughing. Osimhen has had one 25 plus season in Italy, which lets be honest is a pretty poor league in terms of strength.
 
DJ_21 said:
Ye but I think the majority of our fans that are against it is because your idiot of an owner wants like 200m :lol: That’s ridiculous when he knows Full well he ain’t getting that. I hope he runs is contract down and leaves for nothing next year.
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Why the feck do United fans care about price tag? Most of you moan when you don’t spend money, sign him and trust me you won’t regret it, he has carried us for 2-3 seasons. You can’t deny if Fergie was still with you the deal would have been done years ago.
 
LilyWhiteSpur said:
Why the feck do United fans care about price tag? Most of you moan when you don’t spend money, sign him and trust me you won’t regret it, he has carried us for 2-3 seasons. You can’t deny if Fergie was still with you the deal would have been done years ago.
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Because the club isn't made of money and a large price tag will prevent the club from fixing some gaping holes.
 
JPRouve said:
Because the club isn't made of money and a large price tag will prevent the club from fixing some gaping holes.
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Accepted but when you look how much of a clusterfeck we have been over the last 3 years and Harry still delivered in buckets £100m would be a snip don’t get me wrong I want him to stay but I don’t see the downside for a United fan. Just my personal feeling, it’s not just his goals the guy is simply a world class football player.
 
Adisa said:
Frustrations on Kane aside, how poor is Levy as a football director?
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Yeah as a few others have said its really cutting his nose off to spite his face at this point. Its one thing playing hardball in negotiations but now its clearly to Spurs detriment. If Kane doesnt leave for Madrid this summer then hes leaving for free next summer and try explaining that you left 100 million on the table for the sake of pride and ego.

Spurs had the chance to really crack on, they havent/didnt for various reasons and Im sure emptying Uniteds pockets and having 100 million to play with would be better than Kane going on a free next summer where he can join Arsenal if he wanted to.
 
LilyWhiteSpur said:
Accepted but when you look how much of a clusterfeck we have been over the last 3 years and Harry still delivered in buckets £100m would be a snip don’t get me wrong I want him to stay but I don’t see the downside for a United fan. Just my personal feeling, it’s not just his goals the guy is simply a world class football player.
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Kane is a brilliant player but United can't afford him at all cost. The downside is that unless you can put a coherent team around Kane those 100m are wasted. If the price fits United and allow to reinforce other areas then everyone will be happy to have Kane.
 
Adisa said:
Frustrations on Kane aside, how poor is Levy as a football director?
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i hate the guy these days but for all the shite he put us through he has transformed us as a club. No we aren’t on United’s level but I grew up with trash like Andy Sinton, Chris Armstrong etc, he’s an extraordinary businessman just knows feck all about football. Again I was a long Levy fan, and history will look on him fondly as establishing us as a top club but sadly it’s time he ducked off.
 
JPRouve said:
Kane is a brilliant player but United can't afford him at all cost. The downside is that unless you can put a coherent team around Kane those 100m are wasted. If the price fits United and allow to reinforce other areas then everyone will be happy to have Kane.
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i think you down play how much TH has improved you. You stick 30 goals a season in your team, your going to contend. Again this isn’t easy for a Spurs fan to say. You can improve what I think is an inconsistent midfield you have but Kane in front with f it will make you twice the team.
 
I used to post on here regularly but over the last 2 years I simply know football is no longer a sport, it’s pay to win. I literally know unless we get a bankroller we aren’t going to win, so I simply watch the games for enjoyment now rather than hoping we are going to contend.
 
LilyWhiteSpur said:
Why the feck do United fans care about price tag? Most of you moan when you don’t spend money, sign him and trust me you won’t regret it, he has carried us for 2-3 seasons. You can’t deny if Fergie was still with you the deal would have been done years ago.
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You saying we should spend 200m on a player that’s turning 30? I know we’ve done some mad business over the years but that’s insane. We could probably get mbappe for that :lol: And I agree with you, he will turn us into title contenders and I want us to sign him but at a reasonable price. I’ve always said he should of been bought years ago but didn’t he hang on from leaving because he believed that you might of won a trophy under mourinho and then he hoped for the same under conte because they’ve both won things at pretty much every club they’ve been at except for 1….
 
LilyWhiteSpur said:
I used to post on here regularly but over the last 2 years I simply know football is no longer a sport, it’s pay to win. I literally know unless we get a bankroller we aren’t going to win, so I simply watch the games for enjoyment now rather than hoping we are going to contend.
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That's nothing new where Spurs are concerned.
 
LilyWhiteSpur said:
i think you down play how much TH has improved you. You stick 30 goals a season in your team, your going to contend. Again this isn’t easy for a Spurs fan to say. You can improve what I think is an inconsistent midfield you have but Kane in front with f it will make you twice the team.
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I don't. We lack depth and we lack quality in many areas. ETH has done a great job but we are not one Kane away from glory especially not one that prevents us from signing the other players that we need such as other midfielders than Casemiro.
 
DJ_21 said:
You saying we should spend 200m on a player that’s turning 30? I know we’ve done some mad business over the years but that’s insane. We could probably get mbappe for that :lol: And I agree with you, he will turn us into title contenders and I want us to sign him but at a reasonable price. I’ve always said he should of been bought years ago but didn’t he hang on from leaving because he believed that you might of won a trophy under mourinho and then he hoped for the same under conte because they’ve both won things at pretty much every club they’ve been at except for 1….
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I don’t think it would take anything near £200m to sign him, yis s he’s getting on but IMOhe has at least another 2-3 years in him. He will be like Roon drop back and be more of a playmaker.
 
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