Half way through the season. How are you feeling?

Horrible. We are fighting relegation. The bad part ist even in the second half of last season our underlying numbers suggested we were playing like a relegation candidate but I was still hoping for our transfers to improve us and to make progress again but the transfers were again complete shite and we got worse. Now we are fighting relegation for real, it shouldn’t have come as a surprise but it still hurts watching our team like this.
 
I became interested in football for the first time in months when Amorim joined, and I'm regretting it.
 
Shocked to be honest, thought we did some tidy transfer business, not perfect, but solid and for us to kick on from beating City to the FA Cup.

Can't believe it, and honestly, that cup final seems a long, long time ago now, and the joy of beating that lot to the cup has long worn off.

New year fresh start, hoping for the best but would honestly take 8th if offered now.

Any shot at a Europa League charge to save our season?
 
M Bison said:
Like we’re just on a continuous downward spiral, when you think it can’t get any worse, we somehow find a way to go 1 more.

It feels hopeless to me, I think if we changed the full starting 11 it wouldn’t make a difference. There’s something deep rooted that’s wrong, we magically make every single player that comes to the club worse, players that come through the academy start off with such hope and promise, and then they gradually dwindle until they’re deemed not good enough anymore.

On top of that, Ineos don’t seem to be doing anything to turn the ship around, their penny-wise, pound-foolish approach is depressing.
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That’s exactly how it feels. It’s really demoralising.
 
We've seen some bad seasons recently but this is just another level. Last season it felt like there were 7 teams who were miles better than us. This season there are at least 10.

West Ham fans were calling for their manager to be sacked a few weeks back. They're currently above us in the table. That just sums up how far we've fallen.
 
I’m normally optimistic even in the worst moments but it’s hard to see how it gets much better, i think it’s going to be a tough watch second half of the season, i just hope we start to show signs of improvement and soon
 
I have checked out. Well, I try to convince myself of it... I am defo skipping the Liverpool game. Ain't watching that, don't have the cojones for it
 
Have not really been feeling 'engaged' to United's game for most of last season, not this season bar the first maybe 5 games or so under Amorim. I watch but it does nothing to me anymore. I can hardly get angry or exited watching. Today felt like a chore (again) and I was mostly distracted with the cyclocross that was on at the same time. Because i dislike watching United these days, all of football is less exiting as well. Don't watch big games in the premier league, skip most of the CL. Only watch with focus when i go to the local stadium.

Anyone with similar feelings about United/Football?
 
RORY65 said:
I like the manager and think he can be good if given time so us improving the managerial situation is one positive I guess. The issue is that he's been fecked over having to take over midseason with a squad that is shit and doesn't suit him and there's massive dysfunction at the club which seems to be killing morale so there's a very serious danger he won't be here by the time next season starts and so he won't have had any time.

The players have mostly all been dogshit and the performances this season have ranged from uninspired to utterly appalling.
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Tbh, he knew the situation he was getting himself into. He made a conscious decision to come to Utd with what was clearly a broken squad.
Let's just hope it gets better
 
Apathetic. Most people associated with the club, deserve this after the shortsighted foolishness after the FA cup.

Only people I feel bad for, are the poor workers who are losing their jobs and having their lives being made difficult by a Billionaire.
 
Loads of big clubs have gone through tough times in their history, and for most of them, it’s been down to financial problems. Look at AC Milan, Rangers, or Valencia. But with us, it’s different. We’re not just in a rough patch; we’re bad, bad. And the frustrating thing is, it’s not about we don't have money. We’re one of the richest clubs in the world. The issues run deeper: poor leadership, terrible recruitment etc you name it. It’s a mess, and it feels worse because I don't see how we're gonna get out of this.
 
It's hard to be optimistic. But I've seen enough signs to have faith in the manager. The physical and technical abilities of our squad is so low, worst in the PL in terms of the physical side imo, that it is very clear in which areas we need to improve. But it'll take a lot of time and money to solve, as we aren't Chelsea who can splash a billion in 3 windows. So I'm telling myself to be patient, even though it gets more demoralizing every game.

As for the rest of the season, I don't think we'll be fighting relegation, but top half is gone I think. Hoping for something like a 12-15th place finish while we go all out in the EL.
 
To be honest the run of games he came into was horrendous. I'm just hoping INEOS has incoming/outgoing business lined up and that he can get a tune out of the squad with some clear weeks.
 
We are in a very dangerous knife edge position. I can't believe that relegation is possible and looking likely.

When I watch us recently, I never see how we could score a goal, let alone win a match.

Things are worse than ever, but I believe in Amorim. I also believed in Ten Hag. I'll never believe in these players.
 
I feel like it's time to play some youth players, they can't be worse and they'll be motivated enough to try. Ammas and colyer should play a good chunk of the remainder of the season. If there is anyone in the academy who can put the ball in the net they should get minutes up front.
 
I've never disliked a United squad more than this one. These don't feel like our players.
 
We just need to suffer through the pain and get the team used to Amorims system this season so that we’re ready for it next season and can go straight back up to the PL.
 
One thing that's struck me the most this season, is that only a handful of the players can handle the physicality of the league and the teams we're coming up against.

We're legendarily weak at set pieces, most of the players are easily bullied, and on top of that most are lacking ability too. We really need a clearout.
 
I want a time machine just to get through the pain of this season and what's to come, still optimistic it will be better next season but you may call me a fool...
 
Feeling like Ratcliffe and the ineos hive mind have basically decimated the club internally with their callous penny pinching, wasted hundreds of millions in about a year on absolutely nothing and have utterly blown our chances of anything vaguely like top four for at least another decade through their unbelievable incompetence despite appointing several “football minds” to avoid this exact scenario. Happy new year all!
 
Frustrated and irritated. At the same time, I am becoming more and more uncertain as to whether the players are simply not better than 14th place. Maybe there simply are 13 better teams than us in the league, which will be a disaster with the money spent.
 
Happy that for years of media buzzwords and no action an actual 'rebuild' is happening.
Dreading the reality of what it means for this season though.
 
Even as a pessimist I went into the season believing that we'd be in the mix for 5th place, so our performance and record so far is nothing short of embarrassing.

What's worse, I think it's hard to argue that Amorim's system is the proper way forward. You can't force square pegs into a round hole and I think at least half the squad would have to be turned over in order for his system to have a fighting chance and the last thing we need right now is another two or three season project that ultimately won't produce results anyway.

Will we manage more than 22 points over the second half of the season? I think we will, but probably not by much.

I don't see us fighting our way back into the top 6 and if the season ends with us failing to qualify for the Europa League at the very least, it's a complete and utter failure and it won't really matter if we finish 7th or 17th.
 
Very disappointed with the season so far. But i'm not surprised to be honest. We're exactly where we deserve to be. Years and years of lousy leadership has led us to this moment.

I want to see the positives. There is a core of young players that has potential. We have to keep rejuvenating the team and lower our expectations significantly.

United will be back.
 
If we can bring in at least 2, 1 AMF and a lwb, I think it's a good chance to build a bit of momentum. I'm hopeful in Europe (who fecking knows why)
Think we will be lucky to get top half in league
 
Not great, to be honest.

If we do nothing in the transfer window, the results will largely be the same in the second half of the season. We've just got nothing up front. Such a poor side.
 
Honestly, I feel like we are more relegation threatened than mid table - but we aren’t allowed to discuss that on here without threads being closed. Why not? We aren’t allowed freefalling and about to play the Dippers.
 
Todd said:
Even as a pessimist I went into the season believing that we'd be in the mix for 5th place, so our performance and record so far is nothing short of embarrassing.
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Up until recently (maybe Bournemouth game) I'd STILL go into every game thinking "we're only 4, 6, 7?? Points off fourth, if we win we go ......"

I've stopped that now. (Well....) I'm not hopeful this season, I'm just hoping for better performances and to seemingly look like we know what we ar doing,
It was there for Amorims first 2 or 3 games, we seem to have gone backwards though
 
Just curious now how far we will drop. Obvs we aren't anything against Liverpool but be some must win games after that
 
Optimistic. Our hand is being forced right now so we'll have to buy in January and that can only help Amorim. I feel he's the right man but dealt the worst hand with a group of utterly shocking players.

There's no room for transfer error now though. Next two games are freebies, if we get anything out of either it's a win.
 
RedSky said:
Optimistic. Our hand is being forced right now so we'll have to buy in January and that can only help Amorim. I feel he's the right man but dealt the worst hand with a group of utterly shocking players.

There's no room for transfer error now though. Next two games are freebies, if we get anything out of either it's a win.
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I'm going to cling to your hope like glue, I've none of my own left.
 
Genuinely terrified at what the 2nd half has in store for us. This is the worst United team that I’ve ever seen and they get worse every game.
 
I expected us to lose tonight, but it doesn’t make it any easier.
I’ve made half a dozen posts on various threads, but now I’m left feeling totally deflated and depressed about Utd.
Even if we survive relegation this season, the omens are not good.
The clubs finances are precarious at best, we have massive debt and face falling income ahead.
PSR and FFP are tying us down, but the money isn’t there anyway.
There won’t be any mass clear out of players, or more than a small number of new recruits.
 
We are 14th and fighting relegation, Liverpool are about to win the league and maybe more with a new manager while having some of the best players in the world. I feel terrible. But I feel like this is what we need sadly, it feels like a culmination of all the terrible decisions this club has made over the last decade. It really feels like everything is burning, but fire is also a purifier so who knows.
 
Feeling pretty good. This season is a write off anyway, so I don't care about results. I was expecting more from our squad, it is disappointing. Other than that I don't mind the pain.
 
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