Sounds pretty good to me. What's that one inch that separates a gun ban from how the UK regulates guns?
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Sounds pretty good to me. What's that one inch that separates a gun ban from how the UK regulates guns?
Please, don't bother to actually read my posts. That would be too much work.
The UK is nowhere near a gun ban yet. Sadly
The context of tbe second anendment, indicated by the malitia reference, is so out of touch with current realityvthat it needs writing again no matter what.
On top of all the checks, you need "good reason" for owning a gun.
In practice, farmers and posh people have shotguns/rifles to shoot foxes/deer/clay pigeons with.
You've cited exactly what I said would not suffice. Total Crime /= Violent Crime. Has to be a comparison of actual crime types, one by one, where oranges are compared to oranges. For example, on the source you provide, which incidentally is totally out of date (2002), the number of murders is 722 for the UK and 12996 for the USA. Let's call that one violent. Rape is 0.9% for the UK versus 0.4% for the USA (I doubt the later number is true given the recent findings that most school campus rapes are covered up). Another interesting number on that site... the UK has 183,419 drug offences per 100,000people whereas the USA has 560.1 per 100,000 people (
pass the sniff test?
Well last year more than 10k people died related to drink driving should we ban alcohol?
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No, ban drink driving.
With numbers like that you should ban yanks from driving, climbing up ladders, chopping veg in the kitchen or any 'dangerous' adult activity.
WHY KIDS NEED GUN CLASS
A three-year-old American boy has shot his mother and father with the same bullet after pulling a gun from her handbag, police say.
The incident took place in a motel room on Saturday afternoon in Albuquerque in the state of New Mexico.
The NRA really should be teaching American toddlers how to use guns properly
A three-year-old American boy has shot his mother and father with the same bullet after pulling a gun from her handbag, police say.
The incident took place in a motel room on Saturday afternoon in Albuquerque in the state of New Mexico.
The NRA really should be teaching American toddlers how to use guns properly
Guns don't kill people, toddlers do
I'm starting to think the toddlers are trying to take over the USA.
Worse than gangs... toddlers
With a shot to kill ratio like that I doubt there's much the NRA could teach him. Maybe they could employ him as an ammo conservation lecturer.
On the bright side, the gene pool just got smarter after the numbnuts that left a loaded gun within reach of a toddler both got taken out. Maybe that's America's plan all along, let the idiots wipe each other out and leave America for the intelligent few left when the bloodbath is over Canadians, toddlers and polar bears I guess
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Just for the record, this would be the greatest thing that's ever happened.
It is banned.
That's the point.
I'm guessing with 330 million of people plus 250 million of cars/trucks we have more accidents than the rest of the world but I don't think they do enough to stop ass holes driving after a "few" drinks, for some reason they kill innocent people and they end up with a few scratches
http://www.newsobserver.com/2015/02/10/4545775_three-people-shot-dead-in-chapel.html?rh=1
RIP. No news yet on whether this is a hate crime or not. So thought this would be best here. Just rumours on social media. Nothing on the bigger news outlets so far.
RIP. No news yet on whether this is a hate crime or not. So thought this would be best here. Just rumours on social media. Nothing on the bigger news outlets so far.
From what I've read on line I think it's safe to say it's a hate crime. Terrible loss for the family and three young lives lost. After Sandy Hook I think it's safe to say no amount of lives lost will change the minds of the NRA and their supporters.
It's now been quite a while. Chapelhillshooting as a hashtag on twitter is where I'm getting information from and from a few sources on Facebook. Wonder how this will play out in the media and when they'll start covering it. I know there aren't a lot of facts at the moment present but surely 3 people murdered, possible hate crime, like this deserves a "breaking news".
If only the choir boys had been armed (they could have shot the priests before being buggered)
http://www.cnn.com/2015/02/17/us/las-vegas-road-rage-killing/index.html
A mother of 4 would be alive today if only all the stupid idiots involved had not been stupid idiots. She did not deserve to be shot and killed, but good lord just call the cops and let them deal with it.
A mother of 4 would be alive today if only all the stupid idiots involved had not been stupid idiots. She did not deserve to be shot and killed, but good lord just call the cops and let them deal with it.
Add guns to any tense situation and it's a recipe for disaster. As you say, basically everyone in that story has been stupid.
Americans love guns. If they haven't decided to enforce stricter gun control after 20+ years of mass murders, then I doubt they ever will. It's kind of a pointless debate when you know there's no chance of reform ever actually occuring.
Such a sad story.. She come home and takes her son who has a gun.. So that means she has a slight idea that shit can hit the roof when she confronts the errant driver.. Why put herself in that situation? Should have just let the cops deal with it as @JustAFan says..
Another 'can you believe it?' story about guns - this time, a gun and a 'bra holster':
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/christina-bond-bra-holster-fatal-shooting
Apparently schools in America have a folder in classrooms stating what to do in the event of a student turning up armed and a crossword that announces it over the tanoy.....
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...meyers-went-looking-suspect-road-rage-n307896
Road rage + America = drive by shooting
Road rage + America = drive by shooting
There was a story a year or two back about two middle-aged men being involved in road rage. They ended up pulling over at a service station or something. Anyway, both got shot dead by the other.
Yeah I remember that. America is really developing a weird island mentality. Some of the locals are so blind to the rest of the world and as a result they grow up with weird ideas about honor, religion, rights and patriotism.
I've said it before one of the big issues in a lot of this is the EGO problem in the US. To many people who think they have absolute rights and anyone who crosses them is showing them huge disrespect and needs to be dealt with. This shows up in our driving where too many people seem to think that they are the most important person on the road and everybody else needs to get the feck out of their way. Even just the number of normal fights that all start over someone "disrespecting" another person is beyond belief.
Totally agree. The road ego is astounding.
Apparently some kid in America has been jailed for 55 years because his friend was shot and killed by someone whose house they were trying to rob. America is crazy.
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/feb/26/felony-murder-teenager-55-years-jail-indiana
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/feb/26/felony-murder-teenager-55-years-jail-indiana
Dumb interpretation of the law, but don't really feel sorry for the kid. The basic idea behind this interpretation, I guess, is that if you had not been committing your crime then nobody would have been killed, therefore, you are responsible for the results. I think it is a bit too broad of an interpretation.
Basically the law is too harsh but the young man and his friends have nobody to blame but themselves. The one did not deserve to die, but he put himself in that situation so he caries the responsibility for it.
Basically the law is too harsh but the young man and his friends have nobody to blame but themselves. The one did not deserve to die, but he put himself in that situation so he caries the responsibility for it.
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Yeah I don't have any problem with him being put in jail for it, but 55 years is crazy. Any idea how much time you'd get for burglary in the US if there was no death involved?
Probably less than 3 years if they were unarmed.
Well it would vary from state to state and there are even degrees of burglary that play into it. Can range from 1 year to 25 years, depending the State and the circumstances of the burglary.
The law in question in the case you mentioned applies to Indiana and according to the article 11 other states. The other 38 States do not interpret their law this way.
So a very big difference then, assuming the longer sentences are for armed burglary or something else more serious. I'd understand if the perceived responsibility would increase the sentence by a few years or something like that, but roughly 10 times the expected length is a massive leap.
Yeah I noticed that, interesting how seemingly small differences in laws across different states can result in massively different sentences for the same crime.