Safety isn't the only factor in my decision. But yes, I see road rage everyday, there are lots of guns around and the food supply system is bad. My diet here will kill me so the quality of food in Europe appeals. The health system is a racket, and general happiness will improve once I leave.
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Safety isn't the only factor in my decision. But yes, I see road rage everyday, there are lots of guns around and the food supply system is bad. My diet here will kill me so the quality of food in Europe appeals. The health system is a racket, and general happiness will improve once I leave.
just kidding.
I do love those old Western revolvers. But that's a huge no no from the missus.
just kidding.
I do love those old Western revolvers. But that's a huge no no from the missus.
To be fair, both times a Liberal party candidate has appeared at my door campaigning, there's been a gun sitting a few feet away.
We lost the colonies. The EU was a way out.
But the balance between having a market and immigration...which is a big part of Brexit was always a delicate one.
People don't like change.
Unfortunately politicians never speak the truth.
They use insecurities people have to further their own goals.
We have painted ourselves into a corner in the UK.
Even if Labour wins, they can only limit the damage that has been done these past decades.
The US is a huge country. We live in States and what we read about is not always in your own state.
As I said we love Minnesota.
From when we first came all those years ago, we can see changes in the population where we are. The church we go to.
Lots more ethnic foods at the stores. The key is to get on with people.
Think in the UK, the changes have been pretty dramatic and people have not been able to get used to them.
Instead of the government solving some of these issues, they exploit them for their own gain.
Well my Italian friends always tell me that the Italian south can be swell for retired peeps with money. Especially if you learn the language and socialise. But if you're planning to bread win there, it's a no-no. Bureaucracy, corruption, nepotism and low earning power (endemic to all "Med Club" countries) can make life pretty miserable.
If I recall from older posts of yours you were planning to retire soon?
To be fair, both times a Liberal party candidate has appeared at my door campaigning, there's been a gun sitting a few feet away.
Were you serious about voting Far left this time?
Or were you pulling our legs?
Yeah, I'll see who's on the ballot but when there are no good leaders from the major parties I always throw my vote to one of the inconsequential ones. Always liked the Marxist-Leninist angle when I was young so they're the first group I look out for.
For you or them?
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/11/12/supreme-court-sandy-hook-remington-guns.html
If they can win, it would open door for other mass shooting victims and then we may see some measures to control guns.
If they can win, it would open door for other mass shooting victims and then we may see some measures to control guns.
Houston's Police Chief RIPS Mitch McConnell After Shooting
His name soubds familiar. I guess it's not the first time he's doing this?
No words
He might wanna rethink that logic...
Im surprise this doesn’t happen more and luckily the idiot decided to shoot in a church in Texas and not in other state up north, that would be really bad shooting with a shotgun hitting a lot of people in the back of church when the pellets sprayed wide.He might wanna rethink that logic...
You missed the point I was making there.
I know your comment was about what that guy wrote but mine was for the situation, saw the video and the poor guy that was near the shooter got a blast from 3 feet, he probably was dead before hitting the ground luckily the guy who shot him knew how to shoot and killed the guy with only shot.
Yeah.. lucky...
He might wanna rethink that logic...
Hey could you explain me what are you trying to say here? genuinely
So is rest of the world. Get ready for ww3 and get yer nukes out and those that dont have nukes...well your fecked!
That makes sense.
The jews in nazi germany would have wished they had guns to protect themselves when the german people/state turned on them.
Dude man is telling other gun totin god fearin Christians that god can’t protect you (unless you’re armed).
Just daily life in the good ol’ south.
Just give the South independence.
Lots of folks died to stop that. Would be a shame to piss it away.
Seriously we need to get rid of assault weapons.
And it wont happen in the foreseeable future.
Yep and yepSeriously we need to get rid of assault weapons.
And it wont happen in the foreseeable future.
Yay, a moral victory for gun ownership. A great example of just how awesome the US can be if we just let people have more guns. Thoughts and prayers.
I assume this is sarcasm? Haven't been keeping up on this thread so not sure who s on what side of the fence.
I hate the argument of the Jews in Nazi Germany wish they had guns, such a different time and circumstances and the fact that Hitlers Germany was pro gun ownership country. It would have made no difference. Your taking about 1% of the population vs the most armed nation in the world at the time with the most advanced military of the time. Its not a case of if the Jews had guns they could have risen and protected themselves, they would have been annihilated even quicker. You also have to factor in that the Jewish community also didn't want guns or violence. If we're going to blindly make comparisons, imagine if the USA went extremely right wing and as a whole turned against its Muslim population who are roughly 1% of the US. Do you honestly think if they were armed it would make a difference.
at least they would die fighting and not sent to die in gas chambers.
Untrained individuals with guns against a heavily organized military with immense firepower at their disposal? The only thing that would have done is make the Nazis even more ruthless IMHO. Sure you might save yourself for a while and even kill a few soldiers but to what end?Hard to shoot a gun too when you re being rounded up like cattle and your belongings taken away from you.
We don't even have to go back to that moment in history either to show it doesn't work. Look at other places with organized military and police which is debately still nowhere near as organized as what the Nazis did- Syria, Iraq, Turkey, etc etc. Good luck shooting tanks, airplanes, helicopters and bombs out of the sky.
Suggesting personal gun ownership would have somehow prevented these atrocities is nothing short of an insult to the oppressed/victims IMHO.
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No they wouldn't, they'd have been overwhelmed very quickly and still sent to the death camps, which is what actually happened with some of the small groups who did arm and fight. Guns were actually very easy to get in Germany at the time with Hitler Pro gun ownership policy. These rebel shall we call them had little support in their own community, at the time of their subjugation, they had no idea about the camps. You also have to take in the mindset of the European Jews at the time. They had no idea what was coming and we're in general peaceful and had no interest in violence or guns.it really is nonsense to apply modern thinking with hind sight over the reality of what was happening at the time which included the ability for the European Jews to easily arm themselves. Hitlers government banned Jews ( in Germany) from owning guns, but it would be the same as banning Muslims from owning guns in the USA, very easy to circumnavigate. When though you have the full power of the state against 1% having guns is meaningless. You will be overwhelmed, your guns taken and still be at the mercy of whatever the state wants to do with you. All of the Jews that were taken across European coumtries also had the ability to easily arm themselves and many did but after Germany defeated their countries they ended up with the same fate, unfortunately for some it ended in the death camps.
Yeah the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising resulted in 17 dead German soldiers and the whole ghetto getting leveled and 56,000 Jews still killed in the revolt or sent to Treblinka, Majdanek, etc.
What they did, while undoubtedly brave, had no real effect on saving them. The effects came later, as some of those sent to Treblinka revolted once they arrived and the Polish Underground saw it as a call to action when they upped their partisan activity the next year.
What they did, while undoubtedly brave, had no real effect on saving them. The effects came later, as some of those sent to Treblinka revolted once they arrived and the Polish Underground saw it as a call to action when they upped their partisan activity the next year.
It is a part of history that has no reason to be brought into or compared to the current gun issues of the USA.
It’s just plain ignorant to even invoke Holocaust in this discussion. Sick even.
«At least they would die figthing»
«At least they would die figthing»
It is time for all the arguing to stop. While the US gun laws stay the same then horrific incidents and mass shootings are going to continue and grow. Pro gun owners in the USA are more than happy with this so leave them to it. It's their country and their culture. I'm not anti USA, in fact I'm very pro USA and love the place and its people. I'm normally over there a few times a year and even had the option for a full visa and to emigrate (you wouldn't believe who offered it to me if I told you). I turned it down though as I have children and the gun culture and health insurance is insane. It is though their country, not mine,
It’s a faulty comparison spread by the likes of the NRA. They’ve got many Americans convinced that Hitler was a big time gun control advocate and that’s why the Jews died.