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He is essentially another Zlatan 2.0 except that this one can actually finish.
Well their both famous for their first touch. Only in a very, very different way.
He is essentially another Zlatan 2.0 except that this one can actually finish.
Point being...?Well their both famous for their first touch. Only in a very, very different way.
Lukaku every fecking time. Even if it's 100m for Lukaku and 50m for Griezmann. Only striker in the world that ticks all the boxes and is only 23. He scores for fun at Everton imagine him getting at the end of all those chances we create. He creates goals effortlessly for himself too.
Lukaku, I beg you. Take my hand and rejoice.
Point being...?
Lets introduce a little bit of statistics shall we?That Zlatan has world class technical ability while Lukaku struggles to control simple passes half the time.
Against a weak Chelsea team that was under a caretaker manager and finished 10th placed is not a true test. If he was doing it against Juve or Atletico would have been a different story.Anyone who hasn't seen or dosen't know much about Lukaku should see this.
Hold up play
Pace
Passing
Dribbling
Power
He is essentially another Zlatan 2.0 except that this one can actually finish.
Make no mistakes, I am Greizmann all the way, but we can't create some falsehood that he is just a "target man".
Are you serious? Griezmann is better than Hazard at everything.It's not like he's a messi or hazard type individual player that he could make it work whatever the system or position,
Ridiculous statement. So basically how the players perform in champions league dictates how good the player is?If he was doing it against Juve or Atletico would have been a different story.
Are you serious? Griezmann is better than Hazard at everything.
I guess in your world there are only two types of players - great or trash.Ridiculous statement. So basically how the players perform in champions league dictates how good the player is?
I guess Zlatan must be trash.
I guess Aguero must be trash
Hell, I guess the entire league must be some trash because they EPL has failed to be impactful in CL.
Lukaku is a great player. His track record against the big teams has been a minor concern, but frankly that could be said of all the EPL strikers.
In isolation you could make the case for Hazard, but Griezmann never really finds himself in a 1v1 situation. His close control through the middle is fantastic though.Griezmann is not better than hazard at dribbling or beating his man
I guess in your world there are only two types of players - great or trash.
Aguero and Zlatan are not in the same tier as Lukaku. Their body of work at both club and NT speaks for themselves. There is nothing to support that Lukaku will perform on the biggest stage. United is not Everton.
sucked consistently? Aguero has scored 8 goals in 7 CL games this season while Zlatan scored 5 goals in 10 games for PSG last season.Thats not the point. The point is that both players have sucked consistently in the Champions League, so are those players not good since they can't perform there?
Biggest stage? They play in the same league. The only difference is that Lukaku has scored more goals and has missed less big chances than the both of them this season.
You mean at their prime, right?
Come on lads, the myth about a striker being PL ready was put to bed with Ibra this season, if Costa, Aguero, Sanchez etc didn't already put it to bed before. You don't need to buy from the PL for a player to succeed. Griezmann all day long for me. With all due respect, we should be aiming higher than Lukakku.
Are you serious? Griezmann is better than Hazard at everything.
sucked consistently? Aguero has scored 8 goals in 7 CL games this season while Zlatan scored 5 goals in 10 games for PSG last season.
Even in the EPL, Lukaku has a poorer record against the top teams than Aguero and 35yr old Zlatan.
I still dont get what you are trying to prove. The fact is that Lukaku is an unproven striker on the big stage in CL and/or against the top clubs in the league. When he can deliver against top oppositions in Europe or at home then you can use such performances as evidence of quality. Till then buying Lukaku as first choice striker for United is a high risk gamble.
Surely the price doesn't come into it though, the leap in quality that Griezmann brings is worth the money.If it was Lukaku for £30m or Griezmann for £100m that would be the only point where I would consider this
He had 2 goals in 8 appearances last season.sucked consistently? Aguero has scored 8 goals in 7 CL games this season while Zlatan scored 5 goals in 10 games for PSG last season.
Even in the EPL, Lukaku has a poorer record against the top teams than Aguero and 35yr old Zlatan.
I still dont get what you are trying to prove. The fact is that Lukaku is an unproven striker on the big stage in CL and/or against the top clubs in the league. When he can deliver against top oppositions in Europe or at home then you can use such performances as evidence of quality. Till then buying Lukaku as first choice striker for United is a high risk gamble.
Lukaku just doesn't look like a united sort of player to me. I'd much rather Antoine.
Maybe if it was mbappe or Griezmann it could be a different story. But I want both, I'm greedy. And I'd still take Griezmann tbh
The risk involved is because of the price tag. At 20m, Lukaku would be like winning the jackpot but at 100m? UnlessAs big a gamble as Cole, York, Ruud, Sheringham, Cantona, Saha? I'd say they were all less proven than Lukaku when they signed. Even RVP had hardly set the Champions League on fire.
I get the concerns over him, I've a few myself, but at the very least he'd be good enough to win a EPL with. He wouldn't be high risk in my opinion.
Reported that Mourinho sees Rashford as reserve role for striker next season (Griezmann would be more of a #10 option). Mourinho doesn't strike me as a big fan of Martial (plus Griezmann is more of a #10). Lingard's going to be a squad player long term and Mkhitaryan's future is a bit uncertain. He's done well in the Europa League but struggling for form at the moment in the league so can see all of Griezmann, Mkhitaryan and Rashford getting quite a few minutes with Griezmann playing most often.