Graham Potter | turns down Ajax job

Good manager, completely the wrong club. I can't see him turning this around. That dressing room must be a mess at the moment as well for every reason. Too many new faces, awful results, no time to integrate players, massive pressure and attention on them.

I think Chelsea should get rid and bring in a more experienced manager at this level. Potter is good but he took a massive step up to come to Chelsea and I don't think he has what it takes under these conditions. Thats not a reflection on him, its simply the reality of the Chelsea job.

Boely seems to want to make Chelsea into a Liverpool style club with a modern progressive manager who creates the sort of tight knit, hard working squad that most of the top teams have. He then goes and buys loads of players which Potter 100% didn't ask for and throws them into the team. Utterly bizarre because he genuinely seems to want Potter to do well.
 
MegadrivePerson said:
I thought he did a pretty good job at Brighton but it's clear that he is way way out of his depth at Chelsea.

He doesn't have that presence you need to manage a top club. He's definitely in the same category as Ole, Moyes, Hodgson as a midtable manager rather than a top level one.
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Ole had vibes, I think he could manage this Chelsea team to at least Europa League
 
horsechoker said:
Ole had vibes, I think he could manage this Chelsea team to at least Europa League
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Ole himself? Probably not, as I feel like a large part of his vibes came from him being a United legend. What Chelsea need right now is their Ole equivalent, meaning bring back Lampard
 
Sky really taking him apart at the moment on the Football Show.

Think the players aren’t buying in to what he wants and that Potter lacks presence and authority.

Looks like the media are going to keep going at this.
 
Godfather said:
I beg my pardon if that is true. Might be my Footy App is broken
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Weirdly my own football app says 30% as well - probably drawing from the same source. But having watched the match, that seems wildly inaccurate. Chelsea had a lot of the ball, especially in the second half, but couldn't find any real openings.
 
Judas said:
If they sack him they should hire the generational talent that is Poch. He’s basically the manager Sir Alex wishes he could have been.
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Love a good sarcastic comment. Hope to see some posters take the bait.
 
The step up for him at this stage is too big, the timing of the appointment was awkward and I don’t think it’s helped by the number of players Chelsea have bought this season. How many of these players in the January window were players he wanted or more the club hierarchy wanted?
 
Sviken said:
They should hang with Potter till end o' season and see how it goes. Top 4 is gone anyway and I don't see Enrique or Tuchel taking the job in the middle of the season with all the headaches that they'll have to deal with it and can't properly resolve in the short-term.
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I do not see the benefit of sacking him before the season is done. Would Enrique even take the job mid season like this with nothing to play for and the team in freefall? As you say, doubtful.
 
It's like Forest earlier this season. Too many new players.

The squad is bloated and unmanageable, but without reliable goal scorers.

Potter just part of the problem. It's the owners... I'm not convinced we'll get any better with a new manager. Could get even worse.
 
hobbers said:
Poch and Luis Enrique both out of work and is there any doubting both are much better managers than Potter? Even just comparing them to the Brighton version.
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There's also Zidane. There's plenty of managers out there with way more experience and pedigree than the Hogwarts Dropout. Why the Chelsea ownership entrusted him the coaching job for their billion pound rebuild project, is beyond me. When we signed Ole, he was at least a club legend who had done very well in his spell as caretaker first.
 
Mb194dc said:
It's like Forest earlier this season. Too many new players.

The squad is bloated and unmanageable, but without reliable goal scorers.

Potter just part of the problem. It's the owners... I'm not convinced we'll get any better with a new manager. Could get even worse.
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Who would come in now, mid-mid-season? 3rd manager in 7 months? Its become a poison chalice.

Boehly will have to stick it out with Potter till the end of the season and then hope to get someone in after.
 
MadMike said:
There's also Zidane. There's plenty of managers out there with way more experience and pedigree than the Hogwarts Dropout. Why the Chelsea ownership entrusted him the coaching job for their billion pound rebuild project, is beyond me. When we signed Ole, he was at least a club legend who had done very well in his spell as caretaker first.
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Zidane was quite clear he's not very interested in the Premier League, I doubt he'd like to live in England and I'm not sure he speaks English. I think it would be very difficult to convince him to come to PL and even more difficult to sell him this Chelsea as a decent project.
 
bringbackbebe said:
Is that even possible?
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They have reached rock bottom, in my opinion. Their 2023 Premier League form has them getting 7 points out of a possible 27 (i.e., in nine games). If you extrapolate that to a full season, that's just below 30 points. It's genuine relegation form.
 
They have way, way too much quality and depth to continue dropping points (despite Potter).

Watch them go on a winning streak sooner rather than later.
 
Their remaining league fixtures are

Leeds H (should win)
Leicester A (banana peel)
Everton H (should win)
Villa H (banana peel)
Liverpool H (draw)
Wolves A (another banana peel)
Brighton H (lose)
United A (win after Potter is sacked)
Brentford H (lose/draw)
Arsenal A (lose)
Bournemouth A (win)
Forest H (win/maybe draw)
City A (lose)
Newcastle H (lose/draw)

There are few games there I'm confident they'll win, such is their form.

If Potter doesn't get them in order I can see them sliding down the table even further. I really hope they aren't hoping he can di Matteo his way to the champions league.
 
Cloud7 said:
Ole himself? Probably not, as I feel like a large part of his vibes came from him being a United legend. What Chelsea need right now is their Ole equivalent, meaning bring back Lampard
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I imagine if we did the former player route this time it would be Crespo.
 
He's a good manager and has plenty to offer a top tier team IMO, but his position is surely untenable at this point. You can't have a run like this and still have the players fully onboard. I would back him to do a good job if he could get a pre-season under his belt but it's hard to see him lasting that long at this rate. It's a shame really, picked the wrong move in terms of that step up.
 
Red Star One said:
Zidane was quite clear he's not very interested in the Premier League, I doubt he'd like to live in England and I'm not sure he speaks English. I think it would be very difficult to convince him to come to PL and even more difficult to sell him this Chelsea as a decent project.
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I mean, now it is yes. But back in October?

I know Zidane doesn’t speak English but I haven’t heard about him not wanting to come to the EPL. That would be very limiting for him, if he wants to get back into management. Especially since he has already managed the top team from Spain, twice. He ain’t going to Barca or Atleti due to his history and if he’s not going back to Real that only really leaves PSG as a good option. Anything else would be worse financially or as a project than managing one of England’s top teams.
 
Sassy Colin said:
Why the feck would Zidane go to Chelsea?
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The only many in football grumpier than Sir Alex on a rainy night in Stoke, he would do well in England.

But then again I belive he does hate everything about places that dont have either lots of sun or a French flag in the garden
 
Sammy McIlroys fan club said:
He needs to grow a set and take a leaf out of ETHs book. First thing he did was trim the senior squad to 25 and send Jones, Williams and Tuanzebe to train with the under 23s
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I dont think he has that remit. Boehly is an epic interrupting cnut it seems.
 
Tom Cato said:
The only many in football grumpier than Sir Alex on a rainy night in Stoke, he would do well in England.

But then again I belive he does hate everything about places that dont have either lots of sun or a French flag in the garden
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He doesn't want England if I'm not mistaken. He didn't want PSG either? Think his sight is on the French NT.
 
MadMike said:
I mean, now it is yes. But back in October?

I know Zidane doesn’t speak English but I haven’t heard about him not wanting to come to the EPL. That would be very limiting for him, if he wants to get back into management. Especially since he has already managed the top team from Spain, twice. He ain’t going to Barca or Atleti due to his history and if he’s not going back to Real that only really leaves PSG as a good option. Anything else would be worse financially or as a project than managing one of England’s top teams.
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I'm not an expert on Zizou but he comes across as a rather arrogant feck, he's already won a few Champions Leagues, he's been an excellent player too - he doesn't really need to prove anything to himself or others and I doubt he's struggling with money. I say we'll never see him in the Premier League. Back to Real one day, maybe Juve, French NT in few years time, PSG all seem much more likely. Anyway, that's Potter thread.
 
Joining Chelsea in September (after transfer window was closed and without preseason) always had some risks. I think if he decided to stay at Brighton until the end of season he'd still have an offer from big club. For example maybe Chelsea would find someone else but Spurs job would open up with Conte leaving (at least it seems he's going to leave) and I think Spurs are kind of club where it would be easier to have success for Potter than Chelsea as the new owner has decided to spend too much money to give him time probably.
 
Mike Smalling said:
They have reached rock bottom, in my opinion. Their 2023 Premier League form has them getting 7 points out of a possible 27 (i.e., in nine games). If you extrapolate that to a full season, that's just below 30 points. It's genuine relegation form.
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Indeed. They have been bad for a long time (last 15 games form below, Chelsea have scored the fewest goals of any Premier League team during that time):

RTeamPWDLGFGAGDPts
1Arsenal15103229131633
2Manchester United15103228131533
3Manchester City15102331151632
4Newcastle158612371630
5Fulham158342011927
6Liverpool158251816226
7Brentford156722218425
8Tottenham157172425-122
9Aston Villa157172327-422
10Brighton156362521421
11Leicester156272118320
12Nottingham Forest155551120-920
13Wolverhampton155371521-618
14Crystal Palace154561119-817
15West Ham153481519-413
16Leeds153481826-813
17Chelsea15267815-712
18Southampton1532101124-1311
19Everton153210923-1411
20Bournemouth1523101428-149

But it is really since the turn of the year, where Chelsea spent more money than any club, in any transfer window, in any year in the history of football, that they really started to become truly terrible.
 
VP89 said:
I dont think he has that remit. Boehly is an epic interrupting cnut it seems.
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If the chairman is telling the coach how many players to use in a training session it's time for the coach to leave.
Can you imagine Ferguson or Pep putting up with that
 
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