Graham Potter | turns down Ajax job

Pexbo said:
I WANDer what made him take that move. It was definitely the RON move for him, he just doesn’t have the MAGIC for it with his DRACOnian tactics. It doesn’t seem to matter what he does it’s ALBUSted. They’re probably going to get HAGRID of him soon if they’re SIRIUS about getting Top 4.
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They've put in some VOLDEMORTifying displays recently.
 
SilentWitness said:
Because he's a good manager and he is having absolutely no luck. Injury pile ups, when it's starting to click in a game the two best players are out through no fault of his own.
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Even with the injuries, they should be doing better than they are. Meanwhile, De Zerbi has come into Brighton and they haven't missed Potter one little bit. I personally think he's a decent manager, but pretty overrated.
 
Robbie Boy said:
Even with the injuries, they should be doing better than they are. Meanwhile, De Zerbi has come into Brighton and they haven't missed Potter one little bit. I personally think he's a decent manager, but pretty overrated.
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Well, Brighton are positioned lower than when Potter was there, so not entirely true.

Regarding Chelsea, they have zero goalscorers - Havertz doesn't score whether it is for Germany or Chelsea. Mount has been useless all season. Most of the other attackers are injured and unavailable. Not sure what they could be doing with one of the worst attacks in the league.

Copious amounts of injuries. There is not much that can be done at this point.
 
SilentWitness said:
Because he's a good manager and he is having absolutely no luck. Injury pile ups, when it's starting to click in a game the two best players are out through no fault of his own.
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There is something about Potter, and I think it was his impressive stint in Sweden, along with Brighton’s style, that seems to buy him a lot of excuses.

It was two years about hearing about his Xg at Brighton, and now it is injuries at Chelsea. There comes a time when top managers need to overcome these difficulties that all managers face.

I think he is getting off quite easily for what has been a shocking performance at Chelsea so far.
 
Robbie Boy said:
Even with the injuries, they should be doing better than they are. Meanwhile, De Zerbi has come into Brighton and they haven't missed Potter one little bit. I personally think he's a decent manager, but pretty overrated.
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Brighton weren't a mess when De Zerbi took over. They were on the up and set up for a new manager to come in and excel if they had the same philosophy or similar. Chelsea is a start from scratch job.
 
How is the relationship between Tuchel and Boehly? Chances of the german come back?
As I can't see Potter surviving current game if they lose
 
Maluco said:
There is something about Potter, and I think it was his impressive stint in Sweden, along with Brighton’s style, that seems to buy him a lot of excuses.

It was two years about hearing about his Xg at Brighton, and now it is injuries at Chelsea. There comes a time when top managers need to overcome these difficulties that all managers face.

I think he is getting off quite easily for what has been a shocking performance at Chelsea so far.
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There were no excuses afforded to him at Brighton this season. It finally clicked in terms of xG and they were magnificent.
 
SilentWitness said:
Because he's a good manager and he is having absolutely no luck. Injury pile ups, when it's starting to click in a game the two best players are out through no fault of his own.
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He's a good manager but he's out of his depth, regardless of the issues they're having he can't organise the team to look like footballers.
 
crossy1686 said:
He's a good manager but he's out of his depth, regardless of the issues they're having he can't organise the team to look like footballers.
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That's not true. They were functioning well in terms of their attacking play tonight and then lost their best player this season to injury and their best player on the night to a silly individual mistake.
 
SilentWitness said:
Brighton weren't a mess when De Zerbi took over. They were on the up and set up for a new manager to come in and excel if they had the same philosophy or similar. Chelsea is a start from scratch job.
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Nowhere near the mess we were at the start of the season, but it is ridiculous to talk of him being sacked before hes even got a trasnfer window under his belt.

Never mind graham, harry potter couldn't turn that club around in 3 months.
 
SilentWitness said:
Brighton weren't a mess when De Zerbi took over. They were on the up and set up for a new manager to come in and excel if they had the same philosophy or similar. Chelsea is a start from scratch job.
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We’re they? They were a top 4 side with 250m odd spent on it. Tuchel was sacked after 3 league wins in 7, somehow they’re worse now.
what could they fall to here after this round? 11th? 12th?
 
cyberman said:
We’re they? They were a top 4 side with 250m odd spent on it. Tuchel was sacked after 3 league wins in 7, somehow they’re worse now.
what could they fall to here after this round? 11th? 12th?
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Yes. United spent loads too but you'd consider them a start from scratch job when EtH came in too.
 
SilentWitness said:
Brighton weren't a mess when De Zerbi took over. They were on the up and set up for a new manager to come in and excel if they had the same philosophy or similar. Chelsea is a start from scratch job.
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I wasn't overly impressed with his work at Swansea tbh, and Brighton are Brighton; a really well run club, who can transition to another manager seamlessly, because of their internal structures. He done a decent job there, but I would put a-lot of that down to the club being so well run. Even at that, he struggled at times and was booed by his own fans last season.

I feel he's in well over his head at Chelsea, and I would never have even considered him as a Ralf/Ole replacement, in all honesty.
 
Markolan said:
How is the relationship between Tuchel and Boehly? Chances of the german come back?
As I can't see Potter surviving current game if they lose
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Very poor. Tuchel is never returning to Chelsea under the American ownership
 
SilentWitness said:
There were no excuses afforded to him at Brighton this season. It finally clicked in terms of xG and they were magnificent.
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15th and 16th with only 41 points for two seasons with good players.

It’s really one top season as a top flight manager, and de Zerbi has them playing just as well despite losing key players.

It is a questionable CV.
 
Robbie Boy said:
I wasn't overly impressed with his work at Swansea tbh, and Brighton are Brighton; a really well run club, who can transition to another manager seamlessly, because of their internal structures. He done a decent job there, but I would put a-lot of that down to the club being so well run. Even at that, he struggled at times and was booed by his own fans last season.

I feel he's in well over his head at Chelsea, and I would never have even considered him as a Ralf/Ole replacement, in all honesty.
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He was booed because football fans are stupid and fickle, not because he's a poor manager. Yes, Brighton were and are fantastically well run as a football club in terms of the back room staff but on the pitch it was Potter that put together an excellent system which helped them improve each year.
 
I have quite the soft spot for him based on the work he did for Östersund in Sweden.

Do feel sorry for him. However, he should be doing better though despite the injuries Chelsea have sustained.
 
SilentWitness said:
Yes. United spent loads too but you'd consider them a start from scratch job when EtH came in too.
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I think it’s retconning history here. Say what you want about Tuchel and Chelsea but they aren’t middle of the table bad. They aren’t even trying to play a different way or adapt here, they’re just dead.
There’s a reason why there was shock when Tuchel was sacked and it’s not because they’re a team who should be where they are now.
 
Has that Moyes haunted look already. Only been there a few months.
 
SilentWitness said:
That's not true. They were functioning well in terms of their attacking play tonight and then lost their best player this season to injury and their best player on the night to a silly individual mistake.
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Come on, for some reason there's constant excuses for Potter, anyone else is 'shit' by now. They're conceding at will because Reece James is injured, despite spending £180m on defenders, they're hardly creating any chances and the chances they're having are half chances. Injuries or not, they're not even hard to beat and that's the minimum expectation for a team like Chelsea or any PL team for that matter. The players look like they're not arsed and I don't think anyone can give an accurate description of what Chelsea re actually trying to do tactically.
 
SilentWitness said:
He was booed because football fans are stupid and fickle, not because he's a poor manager. Yes, Brighton were and are fantastically well run as a football club in terms of the back room staff but on the pitch it was Potter that put together an excellent system which helped them improve each year.
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He was booed because the football was atrocious for quite a few home games on the bounce, fickle as that may be. I just don't see any evidence that screams top class manager.
 
Robbie Boy said:
I wasn't overly impressed with his work at Swansea tbh, and Brighton are Brighton; a really well run club, who can transition to another manager seamlessly, because of their internal structures. He done a decent job there, but I would put a-lot of that down to the club being so well run. Even at that, he struggled at times and was booed by his own fans last season.

I feel he's in well over his head at Chelsea, and I would never have even considered him as a Ralf/Ole replacement, in all honesty.
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Nah, Potter is having a mare on a shipwreck but really any other club getting him will find a true gem, he will be snapped instantly as soon as he is available again.
 
Honestly he's been terribly unlucky.

He's got his own margin for error when making a step up to a new club, which is fair enough but on top of that:

--> starting midway through the season
--> a clown as an owner
--> absolutely ridiculous injuries
 
mu4c_20le said:
No one put a gun to his head? He had a great thing going on at Brighton, but he left them mid season to chase the glory, and the money.
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I rate him but yeah. There was absolutely no way that move was going to go well.
 
cyberman said:
We’re they? They were a top 4 side with 250m odd spent on it. Tuchel was sacked after 3 league wins in 7, somehow they’re worse now.
what could they fall to here after this round? 11th? 12th?
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Firstly, £250m spend means nothing when you buy complete crap.

They were in a mess and hadn't played well for about 7 months. They got away with it last season because Manutd were dreadful, and Arsenal and Tottenham both had terrible starts to the season. It escaped people's notice, but Chelsea were only positioned 7th in the form table from January onwards. They were very lucky and the signs of their impending collapse were there to see.
 
Bepi said:
Nah, Potter is having a mare on a shipwreck but really any other club getting him will find a true gem, he will be snapped instantly as soon as he is available again.
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I don't think he's a gem whatsoever, but opinions eh.
 
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