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If they keep buying every player possible it'll mean that all other teams globally cannot field enough to play against them, resulting in them winning every game by default.
If they keep buying every player possible it'll mean that all other teams globally cannot field enough to play against them, resulting in them winning every game by default.
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We can’t play the way Potter want to right now without Zakaria on the field.It’s all about perspective innit. I thought we made those changes and managed to wrestle a foothold in the game and it was a pretty even game for much of the remainder of the game. It was one of those games I thought Potter showed good instinct and in hand management, even if he was only correcting his own mistake.
If Potter finishes 8th this season and next he'll be out the door, without doubt. Arteta didn't really show much as a manager until last season, and even then they managed to throw away top 4.
I'm still a bit surprised he managed to ride out that first 18 months, to be honest. The football was poor and so were the results. Maybe he benefited from a lack of ambition at the club post Wenger, they spent a lot of money and there wasn't anything to show for it. Most top 6 clubs don't give managers anywhere near that amount of patience in this day and age.
He had ALREADY “relinquished” that control. Vivell has been the driving force in player recruitment since he officially got on bard weeks ago; with the exception of trying to hit the Enzo cap.
It’s a long term plan!I bloody love seeing the Chelsea fans come up with positive spin for all the crazy things Todd Boehly is doing. But then if your club is finished you would...
Their plan is to see who other clubs are after and then buy those players. They couldn't get over with what Barca did to them.It’s a long term plan!
come 10th January it’s short term, ridiculous loans and interest in every striker linked elsewhere.
Almost like it was nonsense all along
I bloody love seeing the Chelsea fans come up with positive spin for all the crazy things Todd Boehly is doing. But then if your club is finished you would...
Their plan is to see who other clubs are after and then buy those players. They couldn't get over with what Barca did to them.
Honestly it's just mostly British hype imo. If his name is Guerro Portero from Spain nobody would give a feck. The one we should praise and get most of the credit is Brighton's structureWouldn't surprise me tbh. This notion that he is some innovator is total bull shit, and it's all because he's English. I imagine there's a tonne of foreign managers out there that use far better methods than Potter, at lesser clubs.
The work he done in Sweden was fantastic. But Swansea? I really don't think he done anything too great there. Brighton? Sure, he done well but was also booed by Brighton fans last season too, at one point. His overall win record in England isn't anything to write home about, and I would put Brighton's brilliant structure miles ahead, of anything Potter done there. That's being evidenced by De Zerbi's seamless transition.
Moyes, for example, has a better win % with West Ham than Potter at Brighton. I feel his football can look good at times, but lead to absolutely nothing. Just like Thomas Franck, I feel both clubs - Brentford and Brighton - are more responsible for their success, than the managers. I feel Potter is very overrated and will inevitably fail.
De Jong.Mudryk aside, and Raphinha last summer, whose targets have we tried to hijack?
Kounde was long targetted for Barca before Chelsea tried to swoop (Barca still got him in the end). I remember reading Barca targetting Kounde for a long time and Chelsea came out of nowhere.Mudryk aside, and Raphinha last summer, whose targets have we tried to hijack?
You went back in for Kounde after failing to get Ake. You tried to sneak in back in front of Barca when they were in advanced negotiationsMudryk aside, and Raphinha last summer, whose targets have we tried to hijack?
Kounde was long targetted for Barca before Chelsea tried to swoop (Barca still got him in the end). I remember reading Barca targetting Kounde for a long time and Chelsea came out of nowhere.
You also stole Cucurella from City within days.
Wasn't it also reported Chelsea tried to get Richarlison ahead of Spurs?
I mean it's a Chelsea tradition isn't it? They always do it.
Every club keeps tabs on the top players. I think its more than evident in both Kounde and Cucurella's cases that they were looking all set for Barca/City and Chelsea made last ditch hijacks to bring them to the club.It's possible for multiple clubs to be interested in a player, especially really well known players like Kounde. He was a target for Chelsea for a long time too, in fact we almost signed him in 2021 but were priced out by his club. Chelsea also showed interest in Cucurella before he even got to Brighton and was available for 15m. I don't think those are good examples.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/jesus-chelsea-transfer-hijack-arsenal-27500960.amp
Jesus as well.
You really do forget what a shit show Chelseas transfers have become
Every club keeps tabs on the top players. I think its more than evident in both Kounde and Cucurella's cases that they were looking all set for Barca/City and Chelsea made last ditch hijacks to bring them to the club.
With reports from Spain that Atletico and Simeone will part ways at the end of the season, I think I can guess who will be the next Chelsea manager to be sacked after Potter.
Boehly's Chocolate Chowk FactoryAre Chelsea even adhering to a philosophy with Potter? It seems that they'll just sign anyone and hope he can make a square peg fit in a round hole.
Even if they aren't building towards Potter's philosophy, what are they building?
We'd have to really dig up the reports in the past to see how strong the "long standing" interest was to be honest. I recall Kounde being primed for Barca and City being most advanced for Cucurella.I don't know what point that proves though. If Chelsea had held a long standing interest and almost signed both of those players in a previous window, then how can it be 'all Chelsea are doing is watching who other clubs target'?
Are Chelsea even adhering to a philosophy with Potter? It seems that they'll just sign anyone and hope he can make a square peg fit in a round hole.
Even if they aren't building towards Potter's philosophy, what are they building?
We'd have to really dig up the reports in the past to see how strong the "long standing" interest was to be honest. I recall Kounde being primed for Barca and City being most advanced for Cucurella.
Put it this way, do you think its a coincidence that in Cucurella/Raphina/Kounde/Mudryk's cases, Chelsea would suddenly accelerate if other big clubs werent looking to tie them down. It just stinks of "oh they're getting him so now I want him more".
We made a similar mistake with VdB and Sanchez to be fair.
It’s a hijack . A hijack is trying to get in front of a near done deal.The interest was always there, the article you linked even mentions the interest throughout the summer. This whole thing was about Chelsea watching who other club's target before deciding they're interested in them too. These are well known players with multiple clubs always interested in them.
And this is the crux of it.
Chelsea fans will give Boehly a pass but he’s nearly been at the club a year and still no one really knows what they are doing.
When you compare them to Newcastle it’s night and day.
Newcastle is a different situation though? They had a long time to have people lined up in important positions and were almost ready to go when the takeover was complete.
Oh sure but surely Clearlake bought the club with a clear plan? (They did in terms of money spend). @Bluelion7 has explained how expert these people are so I just don’t see what everything has been slow, reactive and clumsy.
It was a rushed takeover. I can’t speak for what BlueLion says. I’m just saying Newcastle had a really long time to get their structure in order whereas Chelsea are basically trying to do it in real time while a transfer window was ongoing and we lost crucial players who needed immediate replacements.
No one should really pay any attention to what Bluelion says though.Oh sure but surely Clearlake bought the club with a clear plan? (They did in terms of money spend). @Bluelion7 has explained how expert these people are so I just don’t see what everything has been slow, reactive and clumsy.
He's had half an excellent season and he's been improving them each year. 8th > 5th > ?
It's highly unlikely they don't get top 4 this year or at least 2nd.
Mad the 5th place is seen as a improvement.
It’s brilliant really. He made a news story to shield Potter and deflect attention out of nothing.
He had ALREADY “relinquished” that control. Vivell has been the driving force in player recruitment since he officially got on bard weeks ago; with the exception of trying to hit the Enzo cap.
Still, Vivell was the one to go down to Portugal for the negotiations.
This is something that already happened.
Now it’s a useful story.
One of the first clever moves in the last two weeks.
It is though? Unless you're living in a fantasy world where 5th is worse than 8th.
Pretty sure Newcastle's first transfer window they leaned on Howe as they didn't have a DoF in place. They even had one of the old hierarchy stay on a bit to help them through it.It was a rushed takeover. I can’t speak for what BlueLion says. I’m just saying Newcastle had a really long time to get their structure in order whereas Chelsea are basically trying to do it in real time while a transfer window was ongoing and we lost crucial players who needed immediate replacements.
Not in the grand scheme of what it entails.
They also flapped the champions League finish. It certainly wouldn't be bigged up at any other club, except arsenal is what I'm trying to say here.
On paper I guess it's improvement, but it's 5th, it's no where.