Graham Potter | turns down Ajax job

Why are more people picking this up? I sincerely hope they are just going off of Custis, and that one knows feck all.

Graham Potter... I'd have taken him back when we were looking to replace Ole Gunnar Solskjaer, because back then it was anyone but him, but right now? Absolutely not. I mean, what's the point of swapping one fraud for another? I still rate the chance of this happening to be very low, but if it does happen, then we deserve everything we are getting as a club. Thoroughly finished. And what a way that would be for Ratcliffle to initiate his involvement. Blimey, we are fecked! Please, don't be true! :lol:
 
Zed 101 said:
When I heard Potter tipped to take over at Utd, my immediate thought was Brian Potter, forgot all about Graham, we are about Phoenix Nights level at the moment
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Rnd898 said:
That being said, I really don't see how he does any better at United than he did with us. The job over there seems just as hard, if not harder, as the Chelsea job and he's already shown crumbling under the pressure once. I think he'd be better off taking on an 'easier' project somewhere a bit smaller, like say Palace, West Ham or wherever a suitable job opens up next.
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Exactly this. Didn't he basically admit in one press conference that he was struggling to handle the pressure? See how United and Chelsea are being treated by the media this season when Chelsea have been as much disaster as us if not more. Everything he does at United will be magnified. I can't see him surviving here at all.
 
adexkola said:
1. We haven't chosen him yet
2. We don't know if the reports are true
3. It may not be the best choice, but why would it be a stupid choice?
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1. We have confirmation from many sources now that he is the prime candidate to take the job if Sir Jim's deal go through in few weeks.
2. Nobody knows, I ignored it when Custis reported it yesterday, but now 3 sources have been confirming it, so I will not ignore it anymore.
3. Stupid as it's not different from appointing a donkey like DM, he is a shadow manager for a shadow team like Brighton and that level. This is a huge club that needs a manager with the experience in dealing with big expectations, Not Brighton.
 
May not be wise for Potter to rebuild his reputation after his time with Chelsea. Utd manager is a very difficult job, even as an acting manager for the rest of the season.
 
Giggsyking said:


This club never learns. We deserve everything bad happening to us with these stupid choices.
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This just shows me that it’s going to be business as usual under the new ownership. Nobody with a club about football would appoint Potter. He’s shown he can’t hack it at a top club, his previous club have been miles better since his departure but our new owners think he’s the one. I can’t wait for him to get the sack in the summer and we end up with Gareth, playing 3 at the back, defensive as feck clueless football. feck me, why does this club have to be THIS cursed. Why do we constantly make such obvious mistakes?
 
Would rather get Brian Potter

Failed at Chelsea and Brighton have improved since he left despite selling more of their star players

I thought the Brexit fc jibes at Sir Jim was a meme if this really is his idea for United then we’re in for yet another long ride
 
Castia said:
Would rather get Ole back

Failed at Chelsea and Brighton have improved since he left despite selling more of their star players

I thought the Brexit fc jibes at Sir Jim was a meme if this really is his idea for United then we’re in for yet another long ride
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I would agree Ole probably is the best candidate as an acting manager till the end of the season. The players in the squad are still more suited to fast counter attacking football than possession based football at the moment.
 
bstb3 said:
How on earth can they be sure on an appointment when they don't even have anyone in the roles needed to really understand the problems?

Whatever we can see from the outside, even if they have a little more inside knowledge, pales into insignificance compared to what can be learned by being there day to day, talking to everyone and assessing the situation properly. Get Blanc and a useful DOF in place. Give them time to assess, make a plan and a strategy that suits the club, the fans and then look at the squads and coaching staff and how they measure to that and change / plan to change accordingly. That would be sensible.

Or come in with a half baked idea, a mate who looked good for Nice and is simply available, change things and spaff away the money it costs (on top of the hit from exiting Europe) and then have to do the same again in a year. No real idea if how he wants to play fits the club, the players or the fans. No real idea how much change would be needed at senior or junior squad levels. Just shoot first then worry. That would be stupid.

I get the urgency if things really go bad in terms of the results and we really steam down the table [but would Potter even change that given what happened at Chelsea anyway)?, Otherwise for gods sake please lets do this carefully and with a proper plan for once. Otherwise whatever benefit Ineos and Jim might bring will get wasted almost immediately on the altar of impatience.
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Here is my question to you. What do you think they need to be inside the club to learn that they will not have already established?

The first team squad consists of a lot of players who objectively appear to be not good enough. There are players on massive contracts that other clubs around us are not handing out.
The manager and his coaching staff are visibly and objectively not performing up to standard.
We may very well have some issues in the fitness department (This one probably does need to be within the club to get a better idea of why we get so many injuries.

And with all of this in mind, it is clear that whatever the football strategy of the club currently is, it is clearly failing on all fronts and has been failing for many years. More than likely Jim, Blanc etc have their own ideas on what they want to implement within the club, and these ideas may not necessarily need to be formulated when they are in, because what’s there right now is not working so they have nothing to lose in going full speed ahead with their own ideas without much regard for what is there right now.

I fail to see what they need to take over in order to assess. Most of the players are overpaid, not up to the required standard, and the manager is underperforming. If they have their own ideas I more than welcome them to override what is there now.
 
I dont see how he makes sense really. Dont brighton supporters say it takes a fairly long time for him to implement his system?
As an interim, guy to give a short term boost he makes little sense. As a longer term option we could do worse but not an inspiring choice, really a lot of the targets were being linked via Ratcliffe sound pretty grim West Ham level stuff.
 
mu4c_20le said:
I'm not too worried about a disaster, because if INEOS know what they're doing, they will set the club ethos and philosophy, and try to find managers that fit that philosophy
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I'm sorry but if they really know what they are doing, then Potter shouldn't be anywhere near that list. For all of the disaster this season we are still in 6th. I'd much rather keep ETH if the other option was Potter.
 
This thread proves that even the worst sources can come up with any old shite and as long as it's negative we'll believe it.
 
I'm still not buying it. We know Potter met with Ratcliffe's lot regarding the Nice job previously, so we know there's an admiration there. I suspect the reports are just taking that and making the leap that he'll also be a favourite for the United job. The one from The Sun, which started all of this, is worded in such a way that I still think that's exactly what's going on.
 
Nogho said:
Back when Arsenal and Chelsea were splurging on their player acquisitions, Sir Alex Ferguson steadfastly upheld a British core. I'd dearly love to see that reinstated. Call me nostalgic, but that's what initially endeared me to this club.

In my view, EtH is rather lacklustre and lacks the managerial flair expected of someone leading a prestigious club like United. Initially, he seemed to possess it, but as the results took a nosedive, so did his overall image. Potter might not be the perfect choice, but he is British, and the prospect of having a British manager once again would be lovely.
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Fair'nuff. Sick of these exotic Dutch types, I get it. Fair play.

I've never trusted his beard, on a more serious note. It's all wrong like a fever dream beard.
 
It’s a massive statement if Potter is Jim’s first choice.

…and that statement is “we will continue to make terrible decisions and be a joke club under my stewardship”
 
adexkola said:
How many world renowned coaches are available on the market?
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Conte and Zidane. Flick also, you can't really deny a treble winner some status.

Personally don't really want any of them. However, they're big enough personalities to shake some of the malaise out of our players. At least for the next 6, 12 or 18 months, while a proper Director of Football comes in and remodels the squad.
 
Andy_Cole said:
To be fair I think potter is the only manager who we’d be able to ruthlessly sack if it didn’t work out. A sort of probation period. He has potential but with his Chelsea stint we could act fast if it didn’t work. If we brought in someone else (for example Di Zerbi who is similar quality to Potter) we’d be inclined to give a 4 year contract.
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This. And it's not a bad thing at all. Tired of long projects and huge amount of time. Yes, we will need a lot of time as a club, but the question atm should be can this man make us a little better.. And if he can make us that's fine. And if he hits the wall, let's get another one who can make another small step forward. That would be massive progress as well.

In terms of a profile and his style (which is also important) he fits the bill.
 
Maluco said:
It’s a massive statement if Potter is Jim’s first choice.

…and that statement is “we will continue to make terrible decisions and be a joke club under my stewardship”
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Well Brighton are lauded as the best run club in the country and their decision makers hired Potter. Different scale yes but still, the best run club in the country wouldn’t hire someone who they thought is a complete buffoon would they? I’m not saying it would work out but I’m down to give anyone a reasonable chance. Sometimes things can just click you never know. The key is you move on quickly if it isn’t working. I honestly don’t see the harm in giving it a go IF they decide that Ten Hag’s position is untenable.
 
Mr Pigeon said:
This thread proves that even the worst sources can come up with any old shite and as long as it's negative we'll believe it.
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Honestly I think some fans enjoy getting outraged at negative news. Regardless if they actually believe it or not.
 
jamesjimmybyrondean said:
I hope this isn’t true. Potter should not be high on any list. That should be De zerbi
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I like de zerbi but there is not that much difference between them. Potter is the one who transformed Brighton, and had the club playing modern possession football before leaving. They are well run, but weren't going anywhere under their previous manager before Potter came along.
 
Devil_forever said:
This just shows me that it’s going to be business as usual under the new ownership. Nobody with a club about football would appoint Potter. He’s shown he can’t hack it at a top club, his previous club have been miles better since his departure but our new owners think he’s the one. I can’t wait for him to get the sack in the summer and we end up with Gareth, playing 3 at the back, defensive as feck clueless football. feck me, why does this club have to be THIS cursed. Why do we constantly make such obvious mistakes?
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The history of our club is dominated by underachievement, with a very small number of exceptional managers (basically two) bringing periods of unbelievable success. We seem to be searching for the next Busby or Ferguson in an era when an individual manager neither has the time nor the power to make a long-term impact all on their own.
 
We ain't attracting any top managers anytime soon. This is about the level of manager we can hope to get.
 
#07 said:
Honest to God. No word of a lie. I'd take Carrick over Potter with the current playing squad. Simply because some of them will look at Carrick's playing career and go: 'He was a top player, he might have something to say to me.'

If you could guarantee that we will severely cull the squad and move out 8,9,10 players, I would be open to risking it on a relative novice like Potter. However, we are notoriously rubbish at selling players: We pay players so much that very few of them are seen as good options by other clubs, nor do those players necessarily wanna leave for lower pay elsewhere.

In these circumstances its hard to think anyone but a world renowned coach could achieve anything at Man Utd.
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I'd take Carrick over Potter too. Potter has more serious CV but he has the blemish of not making it under a similar job, at Chelsea.

The only issue is, I want a ruthless ownership that will fire Carrick if things don't work out and doesn't get swayed by the pundits who are Carrick's mates. Real Madrid fired Zidane twice. We shouldn't be sentimental with people in position of power and control, if they show signs of not being up to the task
 
One thing that is maybe worth noting is that we've also been linked with Newcastle's Sporting Director Dan Ashworth for the DOF role by similarly unconvincing sources. He previously worked as Technical Director at Brighton while Potter was there.

So if we're entertaining the idea that there's even the slightest truth in these reports, it perhaps becomes more likely if Ashworth was appointed. But they're also just easy stories to write.
 
mu4c_20le said:
I like de zerbi but there is not that much difference between them. Potter is the one who transformed Brighton, and had the club playing modern possession football before leaving. They are well run, but weren't going anywhere under their previous manager before Potter came along.
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They weren't going anywhere under Potter either!

They had a strong finish to 21/22 (including a 4-0 drubbing of a rudderless Utd) and started 22/23 well (including a 1-2 win at OT against a still rudderless Utd under EtH) which convinced Chelsea to give him a shot...which they quickly regretted! Other than that, his main achievement was avoiding relegation every year.

He did an admirable job at Brighton, but they finished with a negative goal difference every season he was in charge. A real modern coach came in after him and showed exactly how to play good football with pretty much the same group of players.

Brighton's success has a lot more to do with the long term planning and recruitment of those above the manager, not the manger themselves.
 
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