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Graham Potter | turns down Ajax job
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As an Albion fan, here is my assessment of Graham Potter, for anyone interested. I saw practically every one his games under us live, home and away, and will try and be impartial!
At least the Albion:
He favoured a back three, with attacking wingbacks. The wingbacks would be generally hugging the touchline on the half-way line, leaving the three centre-backs to split. The LCB would effectively be a narrow second left back, the RCB as a narrow right back, and one in the centre.
Defensively, the wide centre-backs on the left and right are expected to cover long balls into the channels, the central CB to man mark a lone striker, and the CDM to drop alongside him and act on the cover.
He likes to control possession, and work towards the wingbacks overloading the opposition flanks. His style is intricate, prioritising quality over quantity of chances. At times, it can be over-intricate and a little frustrating, as players often look for one pass too many in very dangerous areas. When playing well, it leads to some very beautiful attacking play and wonderful team goals.
Under Potter’s years in charge, we consistently had very barren spells in front of goal, but a lack of quality upfront was certainly a part of that. Defensively we were always solid.
A huge amount of pace and tenacity is needed at CDM, and from the two wide centre-backs. They are required to do an awful lot of work managing runs in behind, which is how we conceded a lot of goals.
I think you could do a lot worse, but I’m really not sure he is an upgrade on Ten Hag.
At least the Albion:
He favoured a back three, with attacking wingbacks. The wingbacks would be generally hugging the touchline on the half-way line, leaving the three centre-backs to split. The LCB would effectively be a narrow second left back, the RCB as a narrow right back, and one in the centre.
Defensively, the wide centre-backs on the left and right are expected to cover long balls into the channels, the central CB to man mark a lone striker, and the CDM to drop alongside him and act on the cover.
He likes to control possession, and work towards the wingbacks overloading the opposition flanks. His style is intricate, prioritising quality over quantity of chances. At times, it can be over-intricate and a little frustrating, as players often look for one pass too many in very dangerous areas. When playing well, it leads to some very beautiful attacking play and wonderful team goals.
Under Potter’s years in charge, we consistently had very barren spells in front of goal, but a lack of quality upfront was certainly a part of that. Defensively we were always solid.
A huge amount of pace and tenacity is needed at CDM, and from the two wide centre-backs. They are required to do an awful lot of work managing runs in behind, which is how we conceded a lot of goals.
I think you could do a lot worse, but I’m really not sure he is an upgrade on Ten Hag.
No smoke without fire. Lots of sources reporting it now. Think this might actually be happening.
Good performances and winning games are what brings smiles back. A chirpy British chappy isn't going to make a blind bit of difference to anyone if the team aren't performing. If anything, someone like that would get ripped apart for smiling when the team had just lost an important game.
This is rather bizarre. Is this a serious post?
The last 15 years?!!
This honestly gives me Mason Mount-levels of trepidation. You know it's a black hole, but you're going to try going in anyway.
Godspeed.
Godspeed.
No issues with Potter at all but I would want Club to rather go for someone younger who are at the start of their management journey .
I think it's bollocks, but if it's not then I imagine he'd be on the replacement list purely because he's available and won't cost anything to bring in.
This is a joke, right, right?
feck me, why would we want to appoint a failed manager? We've appointed successful managers and that hasn't worked out, why would a failed one be better.
It would be Moyes part 2.
I hardly think Ratcliff is that stupid.
feck me, why would we want to appoint a failed manager? We've appointed successful managers and that hasn't worked out, why would a failed one be better.
It would be Moyes part 2.
I hardly think Ratcliff is that stupid.
I’m desperately hoping this is just the media adding up 1+1 and coming up with 73 due to Potters reported interview regarding Nice back in the spring.
Does seem to be rather too much smoke for there to be no fire here though
Does seem to be rather too much smoke for there to be no fire here though
Yes, take Klopp as an example. He smiles, shares his emotions, and is likable. But he still excels as a manager, and the players seem to like him as well.
Have you seen a single player run up to Ten Hag when they scored? Sure, he danced at Wembley, but that's about it. Show some emotions, give a little. Look at Sir Alex. Sometimes he ranted for fifteen minutes and was furious at the press conferences; sometimes, he joked with the journalists. Occasionally, he was halfway onto the pitch screaming.
EtH just stands there during games, and at the press conferences, it's just "eh" or "no, I don't think so, we are on the right way," etc. It could be that he isn't able to express what he thinks because of the language, but I think his personality is just the quiet and strict one. That doesn't untangle any knots in a squad where things aren't working out, does it?
Good god, can I cry now.
I think this is what we'd be seeing, of course if results do go really bad he would get the sack but I see us appointing Potter and letting go of senior players and trying to swap out other players for a different profile. They will give a new vision and structure 1.5-2 years. They will see Potter coming in mid season as a head start if that happens.
We desperately need a new younger more technical midfield.
How on earth can they be sure on an appointment when they don't even have anyone in the roles needed to really understand the problems?
Whatever we can see from the outside, even if they have a little more inside knowledge, pales into insignificance compared to what can be learned by being there day to day, talking to everyone and assessing the situation properly. Get Blanc and a useful DOF in place. Give them time to assess, make a plan and a strategy that suits the club, the fans and then look at the squads and coaching staff and how they measure to that and change / plan to change accordingly. That would be sensible.
Or come in with a half baked idea, a mate who looked good for Nice and is simply available, change things and spaff away the money it costs (on top of the hit from exiting Europe) and then have to do the same again in a year. No real idea if how he wants to play fits the club, the players or the fans. No real idea how much change would be needed at senior or junior squad levels. Just shoot first then worry. That would be stupid.
I get the urgency if things really go bad in terms of the results and we really steam down the table [but would Potter even change that given what happened at Chelsea anyway)?, Otherwise for gods sake please lets do this carefully and with a proper plan for once. Otherwise whatever benefit Ineos and Jim might bring will get wasted almost immediately on the altar of impatience.
Whatever we can see from the outside, even if they have a little more inside knowledge, pales into insignificance compared to what can be learned by being there day to day, talking to everyone and assessing the situation properly. Get Blanc and a useful DOF in place. Give them time to assess, make a plan and a strategy that suits the club, the fans and then look at the squads and coaching staff and how they measure to that and change / plan to change accordingly. That would be sensible.
Or come in with a half baked idea, a mate who looked good for Nice and is simply available, change things and spaff away the money it costs (on top of the hit from exiting Europe) and then have to do the same again in a year. No real idea if how he wants to play fits the club, the players or the fans. No real idea how much change would be needed at senior or junior squad levels. Just shoot first then worry. That would be stupid.
I get the urgency if things really go bad in terms of the results and we really steam down the table [but would Potter even change that given what happened at Chelsea anyway)?, Otherwise for gods sake please lets do this carefully and with a proper plan for once. Otherwise whatever benefit Ineos and Jim might bring will get wasted almost immediately on the altar of impatience.
The other name that was dropped was Lopetegui If those are the options, I'd rather giveth Ericky
If those are the options, I'd rather giveth ErickyPotter was brilliant at Brighton, really took them from survival football, to modern, proactive, technical football. De Zerbi has taken them to new levels on the pitch (dominating the ball vs Man City for example), but Potters work was the foundation.
Chelsea was a disaster, but he was dealing with a whole new team that had never played together.
He’s not my first choice but I wouldn’t be too mad at giving him another shot at producing the modern football we saw at Brighton.
Thoughts? @The Boy
Chelsea was a disaster, but he was dealing with a whole new team that had never played together.
He’s not my first choice but I wouldn’t be too mad at giving him another shot at producing the modern football we saw at Brighton.
Thoughts? @The Boy
I don't want this to happen, therefore I believe it unequivocally
Seriously though, I don’t get it. What could he have possibly done to convince anyone that he’s the man?
Thoughts? @The Boy
Seriously though, I don’t get it. What could he have possibly done to convince anyone that he’s the man?
Thoughts? @The Boy
Certainly looks like ETH's days are numbered.
30% win record here we come.
Would any of the current top teams even consider Potter if they had to appoint a new manager today? Liverpool, City, Real Madrid, Barcelona, Bayern, PSG, ...?
This as an example. Read the room.
Sir Alex Ferguson Was Not Nice To Stupid Journalists (youtube.com)
No we banned them...
Sir Alex Ferguson: “You talk longer than my f**ckin wife.” (youtube.com)
I liked Ole, felt sorry for him.
Klopp is likeable? I've heard it all now. He's the sorest loser and very very touchy. He had a go at a pundit or presenter recently for half-jokingly referring to early kick offs after European mid-weeks.
When things were going well last year Ten Hag was fine and was happy in interviews and there wouldn't have been many complaints. I don't really know where you're going with this to be honest. You initially said you wanted a British manager for some kind of vibe reasons and now Klopp has the kind of personality you want.
To be honest I could not care less about any of the things that seem important to you with regards to the manager. When the team are winning and playing exciting football I'm happy with the manager, it really is that simple for me.
Truly incredible to see so many Potter fan boys out all ready. Even before all this he always struck me as a Moyes type. It would be an awful choice
What does this prove in relation to anything you've said so far? You've lost me
Okey then
He’s worse than ETH
Fantastic post and thanks for the detail, one things stands out to me.
You can identify how you play, right now United has no style of play.
Hit the channels and bounce it off the target man.
The green tinted glasses are definitely very strong with our fan base.
If we sack Ten Hag then I would be happy if we got him in charge. Aside from Chelsea, which I thought was a lose lose situation to begin with given the shenanigans at the time, he has massively achieved with his previous clubs. Still boggles my mind to this day how Brighton fans booed him, football fans can be an entitled bunch and I'm going to await the day where they'll want De Zerbi gone too after taken charge of a Potter's fun flowing team to begin with.
Hmm, a lot of noise now.
Can someone explain to me the rationale behind going for Potter? Someone who failed miserably when he made the step up to a bigger club, much like our own Moyesy. Is this some weird Brexit FC manoeuvring from Jim or is there something I'm missing?
Thanks for reading!
Have you seen Chelsea? its a mess over there, far worse than us.
I simply liked the idea of having a manager who isn't overly uncharismatic, someone with a sense of humor. What's wrong with that?
I followed Potter when he was coaching Östersund here in Sweden, and I liked him as a person, as well as for his football style. Nothing more, nothing less.
Other than Liverpool heads I can't imagine many would label Klopp as likeable.
Exactly. Poch's current spell shines a new light on Potter's time imo, because unlike Potter he had a full summer window and preseason.
This club never learns. We deserve everything bad happening to us with these stupid choices.