I didn't know it was a football rivalry tbh but It's like Liverpool and us, it goes beyond football. Juve symbolise the rich North vs Napoli who symbolise the poor South. There is a massive divide in the country although I had the impression most posters on that forum had never set foot in Italy.
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I didn't know it was a football rivalry tbh but It's like Liverpool and us, it goes beyond football. Juve symbolise the rich North vs Napoli who symbolise the poor South. There is a massive divide in the country although I had the impression most posters on that forum had never set foot in Italy.
got to say WOW that Napoli managed to get the full release clause for him, think they payed roughly 35m for him and getting roughly 90m back for a 28 year old seems good buisness, for me i would not even put him in the top 5 strikers in world football, seems an outrages fee, one i feel united will help pay for with the pogba deal.
I'm not entirely sure I understand this. Is this a case of feeling they need to buy a big name, for the sake of their brand, because they're selling their biggest? That's the only way I can see Higuain being worth that much to them but it doesn't strike me as the sort of thinking I'd associate with Juve.
If true, Pogba is ours.
90m for a 28 year old striker who quite frankly isn't even that good, I wouldn't class him in the top 5-10 strikers anyway and even at 50m he'd seem expensive.
Wtf. Higuain is fecking brilliant. You don't break The Serie A record with 36 goals playing for Napoli without being class.
No doubt he's a good player but nowhere near the 90m mark, I didn't watch every Napoli game last season but Ive seen enough of him over the years to have my opinion that he's not in the elite player list which surely 90m should be.
Higuain isn't worth 90m but so isn't Pogba, i think we are entering a new era of super inflated transfer fees.
True and it also highlights the lack of top class strikers in the market which means the clubs can demand top cash for the very best ones.
'isn't even that good'? Eh... he is a superb striker, easily one of the very best playing in Europe.
If Higuain is 90 M in today market, what would be Lewandowski price next season?
Signing Higuian for Juventus in Serie A would be like signing Lewandowski. He's the next best thing for them. Taking him from their closest rival is the cheer on top. What price for that?
Higuaín going for over €90m doesn't make €120m for Pogba look too bad, does it? Or even €145m. I mean, taking into account ability, age, commercial value, and so on.
He is 5-10 strikers right now, but yeah the fee is just ridiculous.
Ridiculous fee, but he'll absolutely 100% guarentee Juventus the league this year, which is probably how they'll justify it (though really, they'd probably win the league anyway)
Considering Ciro Immobile, Edinson Cavani and Luca Toni all scored ~20-25 goals in recent years for worse sides, 36 goals isn't that amazing. Personally I think Higuain is a decent player but if United signed him for even half of what Juve paid I would be fuming. He's not that good.
I suppose it's arguable that two wildly inflated fees don't make s right, so to speak.
But yeah, on a simple pounds and pence basis, buying a player who'll run down his value to almost nothing over the course of his contract for 60-70% of what you'd pay for a player whose value should stay roughly the same should you choose to sell him a few years in with the potential to sign a further deal while still at roughly the same level of performance is a questionable one.
But as folks on here have said, it's all about wages and which players would be willing to sign for the respective clubs. I think both clubs would be filling areas where they don't have a player of that level currently, so everyone's happy?
I think how quickly this deal is concluded will dictate how soon Pogba is announced for us. When is the impending accouncement by Juve?
Can't believe Juventus forced Woodward into paying €100m euros for Higuain and £120 m + the Raiola fee.
Insane bit of business for Juventus, rawk must be laughing at us.
lol
Insane bit of business for Juventus, rawk must be laughing at us.
lol
Can't believe Juventus forced Woodward into paying €100m euros for Higuain and £120 m + the Raiola fee.
Insane bit of business for Juventus, rawk must be laughing at us.
lol
Edit - just saw the whole of your post.
Whilst I agree with the notion that two separate transfers are not comparable pound for pound, the comparison is more appropriate than many other comparisons that have been made; two players moving from a club that doesn't want to sell, to another big club, for a fee that they can't reject (for different reasons, mind you). And it happens in the same transfer window too, so inflation doesn't come into it when compared to fees paid in previous summers.
Now, you mention wages as an additional point, and that may prove to be quite a lot, but in 5-7 years (assuming Higuaín performs at a high level until 35) Juventus are going to have to pay another transfer fee to replace him. We, on the other hand, are either going to either recoup some, if not all the money, paid for Pogba, or just renew his deal with the club, essentially 'saving' us a replacement fee.
I think these transfers are unique in the sense that all four clubs end up having felt they've made a good deal for varying reasons. My feeling is though that the Higuaín deal kind of puts our Pogba deal into perspective, and doesn't make it seem too bad.
I don't understand how some people are defending this fee saying Higuain is class. He's certainly not in the top bracket of strikers, Suarez, Lewandowski, Aubameyang, a fit Aguero, who can create chances and win games on their own. He fits more into the target man number 9, with Benzema arguably at the top alongside Kane, and then Higuain and a whole bunch of others until you reach the donkey that is Giroud. They will all score a decent number of goals if the team is working hard to provide for them, but they're never going to terrify a full back.
This fee is ridiculous and smacks of desperation. There'll be no resale value either.
This fee is ridiculous and smacks of desperation. There'll be no resale value either.
Are you deluded? Pogba's costing £500m you fecking manc.Can't believe Juventus forced Woodward into paying €100m euros for Higuain and £120 m + the Raiola fee.
Insane bit of business for Juventus, rawk must be laughing at us.
lol
Higuain is going to cost them £-25m. Though Juventus' best deal is for Pjanic, who is costing them £-68m. Combined, that's £-93m! That's the sort of dealing only Kloppers can do usually.Can't believe Juventus forced Woodward into paying €100m euros for Higuain and £120 m + the Raiola fee.
Insane bit of business for Juventus, rawk must be laughing at us.
lol
You say 28 as if he's a pesnioner. At 28 he's entering the peak of his career.
What a silly post. Kane & Vardy also scored 20+ in recent years. Suarez 13/14 season wasn't that good after all.
Stop pretending you watch Napoli games you sound incredibly ignorant it's laughable. The only striker better than Higuain at the moment is Luis Suarez.
Ibrahimovic
Lewandowski?
Anyone who doesn't think the fee is excessive is a moron given his age and resale value. Not that it should matter to the average fan mind. Much like I don't care what we spend so long as the club is run properly and we live within our means.
Juve have inflated the market with this deal no doubt.
Juve have inflated the market with this deal no doubt.
And we didnt?
He said Higuain is the best striker in the world after Suarez.
This is the new age. I don't think pogba is worth 100 million + either. Higuin is 3 time the striker troy deeney is I'm guessing. Wasn't he going for lik 33 million? That would make it an alright fee.
Eh?
I wonder where Juventus got are getting €100m
Should be some Pogba news soon if the reports are true.
Should be some Pogba news soon if the reports are true.
Wow you're late to the party.I wonder where Juventus got are getting €100m
Should be some Pogba news soon if the reports are true.
Ahh you don't rate Higuain I see
I usually don't enter transfer threads until the deal is done. I hear we might be signing Zlatan too.- Status