@Mockney This is all about the midge ure line isn't it, it hurts because you know its true.
Glastonbury 2017
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I don't even know what tune you're on about. I only know Midge from his fleeting Vienna fame, Live Aid lackey status and terrible 'tache. Which is it? I love a good dodgy cover fwiw. Preferably in a different, completely ill-suited genre.
Never heard that before. Kurt Cobain can only dream of covering that song so well!
Don't think I can handle Liam Gallagher's voice anymore.
Yeah the Cobain version is sort of rubbish. The actual original by Bowie is great but old(Well young)Midge hits it out of the park, it's also used in one of the best openings to a video game ever.
That's the most Spandau Ballet thing Spandau Ballet never did. I see your Ure, and I raise you Lulu!Tbf, that tune is Bowie's "All Along The Watchtower" or "Hallelujah" ...Cobain's is the standard. Much like Dylan and Cohen's, Bowie's original sounds weird and unsatisfying in comparison.
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Jesus!
Also are those youtube comment right, that awful saxophone noise is actual Bowie ?
To be fair I did say I was half joking, the signature Bowie tune is Life On Mars or Heroes.
Sadly, not a real story
Yeah, I've just noticed. Still, pretty funny because it's quite believable.
It's not even remotely believable. Say what you want about Radiohead but their music is always tuneful. We're not talking about fecking Aphex Twin here.
Probably. He went through a whole late 70s/early 80s saxophone phase. It's not my preferred Bowie era, admittedly, but then neither is his late 90s drum and bass experiment, or that cringey mid-80s Mick Jagger dad-pop catastrophe. But then again, a big part of his GOAT credentials lie in his ability to stay popular and relevant well beyond his expected sell by date.
Heroes definitely, but then depending on your preferred Bowie, you could say Space Oddity, Starman, Ashes to Ashes, Lets Dance, Sound and Vision, Modern Love or even that daft one out of Labyrinth.
I'm not even a massive Bowie fan, I just like to think I can recognise the obvious worth of certain artists who are clearly above and beyond the usual sphere of influence. And Bowie is clearly one of them. I didn't even particularly like Prince, and don't think his music dates well, but I'm aware that his impact as a musical icon is significant, and lasting. Winehouse, for all her evident talent, is not at that level. She could've been, perhaps, but sadly we'll never know. She would've had to do a lot more unique, genre-spanning, culturally significant shit to get there though.
I'm also not sure how we've ended up arguing about people who are both not playing at Glasto, but also very much dead. It's probably my fault tbf.
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Obvously not true. Also, real music "hipsters", wtf that means, aren't at Glastonbury listening to one of the biggest and most famous bands in the World as a general rule.
Woah steady on there.
Whoah. That is weird. Interesting too. Something about the American psyche giving individuals the necessary chutzpah to put themselves front and center and become a massive star, while Brit humility is required to keep bands functioning without being ripped apart by clashing egos? Yeah, I'm going with that theory. Almost certainly bollox but I like it.
Enjoying Stormzy more than I probably should do ha.
No I don't think it is, I think it's more of sign that so far this years Glastonbury hasn't been great. Corbyn speech was fun and something different, Run The Jewels were great and Radiohead did their job but overall its been dull.
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When are foo fighters up?
9:45 I believe.
I would've like to have had this conversation, but by dint of the Caf, I somehow ended up arguing the merits of David Bowie vs Amy Winehouse in multiple paragraphs. This is why we can't have nice things.
Never heard of Wiley before
He is wearing a Barcelona tracksuit and there are Barcelona flags in them crowd
He is wearing a Barcelona tracksuit and there are Barcelona flags in them crowd
I never consider myself a grime fan but then i love watching Stormzy, Dizzee Rascal, Wiley. They're grime right? 
right?
right?Because they forcefeed a 5 year old a bucket full of sherbet, give it free reign over Blackpool Illuminations and call the result 'an experience'.
Surely that's not an argument. Bowie transcends just music, he is the embodiment of all art forms.
Oh wait this was meant to be stopping wasn't it.
Dunno, thought they were all rap/hip hopI never consider myself a grime fan but then i love watching Stormzy, Dizzee Rascal, Wiley. They're grime right?
I suspect it's also something to do with the way the music industry works in both countries but I'd have to think about it more before I commit to that argument.
I never consider myself a grime fan but then i love watching Stormzy, Dizzee Rascal, Wiley. They're grime right?
Yeah they are, Dizzee and Wiley in particular have been doing it since the very beginning. Wiley dropped a new album at the start of the year and it's awesome.
Now I'm just annoyed I wasted 500 odd words saying what you just did in 15. fecking Glastonbury.
All those years practice I had being exactly 10% under essay word counts finally paid off.
American individualism v the more communal British approach. And interestingly only one great British band (Radiohead) has emerged in post-Thatcher, "no such thing as society" Britain. If the theory is correct, I await the British Elvis but so far I have only seen Ed Sheeran.
At fear of been destroyed I'd say quite a few Brit bands post thatch considered as great would be blur, oasis, manics, Coldplay and muse
,Edit, ocean colour scene too
I will run for the hills now
At fear of been destroyed I'd say quite a few Brit bands post thatch considered as great would be blur, oasis, manics, Coldplay and muse
Edit, ocean colour scene too
I will run for the hills now
Add Suede and Pulp too. Suppose it depends if you like Britpop though.
And I would add the charlatans
At fear of been destroyed I'd say quite a few Brit bands post thatch considered as great would be blur, oasis, manics, Coldplay and muse
Edit, ocean colour scene too
I will run for the hills now
I was going to concede the point until you mentioned Ocean Colour Scene...
There have been some decent bands (Blur, Pulp, Massive Attack) but I wouldn't put any of them in the very top bracket. Also, none of them made much impact in the US unlike great British bands of the past.
For me I think the guitar bands took a bit of a turn away from the mainstream, adding in the rise of dance and electro pop being popular I think even if a band these days was great they wouldn't get the same recognition because it's just not accessible or popular enough.
I think the idea there are less "great bands" has less to do with the quality of music, and more the fact that bands themselves are a relatively modern thing. I mean, can anyone name a popular band before the Beatles? It's only really in the 20th century that it became a thing.
It doesn't account for why so many of them are British, but it does kinda mitigate why we don't have equatable examples now. We have loads of bands, many of them great, but they'll never be as unique and novel as they were back in the day. If anything it's amazing Radiohead are even in the discussion, considering their reputation was forged in a less forgiving, and more competitive era.
If anything dance and Hip Hop acts are the closest equivalents, being largely original genres forged by the times, rather than polished homages to what came before.
It doesn't account for why so many of them are British, but it does kinda mitigate why we don't have equatable examples now. We have loads of bands, many of them great, but they'll never be as unique and novel as they were back in the day. If anything it's amazing Radiohead are even in the discussion, considering their reputation was forged in a less forgiving, and more competitive era.
If anything dance and Hip Hop acts are the closest equivalents, being largely original genres forged by the times, rather than polished homages to what came before.
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Oh man I love foo fighters
Speaking of great bands, how good would Nirvana be if Kurt and Dave had stayed in the same band until now?
I'm not a big fan but Everlong is one of my all time favourite songs. I sat through their whole 2 hour set at reading in 2012 and they played it as their last song. It was epic and I got to throw camping chairs and everything. That 5 minutes was worth the 2 hours before it.