Geovany Quenda - Summer 2025

Guenda is miles off Garnacho, so if Nacho is not good enough this kid is not either.
I don't know about that, he looks way more talented than Garnacho in the games I've seen. Difficult to say, but I can't remember seeing Garnacho looking so impressive in the champions league.

Garnacho is very much a moments player with a scruffy technique, from what I've seen off Quenda he's much quicker, a better passer and a far, far better dribbler.
 
Well, that is a depressing read. You follow Sporting closely?

I follow Braga mainly, but I have watched a few Sporting games. My main problem with hyping up a 17 with a lot of "promise" is the league is very poor and he still is not producing a lot of goals or assists.


I don't know about that, he looks way more talented than Garnacho in the games I've seen. Difficult to say, but I can't remember seeing Garnacho looking so impressive in the champions league.

Garnacho is very much a moments player with a scruffy technique, from what I've seen off Quenda he's much quicker, a better passer and a far, far better dribbler.

Quenda has very low productivity numbers. wasting a lot of money on a player who has no proven goal-contribution record is just silly. The eye test dose does not win you games goals do.



He's better at 17 than Garna was, easily.

Garnacho at 17 would have started regularly in the same league as well.
 
His passing, vision and selflessness is on another level to Garnacho. He looks quicker to me too and has an ability to genuinely beat a player and leave them for dead. I think he has certainly more strings to his bow than Garnacho, so I’d say he’s more talented. I’ve not seen him over a run of games let alone a season, so I can’t say he’s at a better level right now. I’ll leave that to others who have seen him more, but some of the Sporting fans on here reckon he’s another generational talent and he’s out performing past greats at a similar age, so it certainly bodes well.

I’d be surprised if he came here, I would expect a lot of other big clubs to get involved when it comes down to it.
 
I follow Braga mainly, but I have watched a few Sporting games. My main problem with hyping up a 17 with a lot of "promise" is the league is very poor and he still is not producing a lot of goals or assists.




Quenda has very low productivity numbers. wasting a lot of money on a player who has no proven goal-contribution record is just silly. The eye test dose does not win you games goals do.





Garnacho at 17 would have started regularly in the same league as well.
Guess work that though. Let's just focus on what we actually know.
 
The biggest factor in buying Quenda is guesswork. His underlying numbers provide little to suggest he will be successful in a bigger league, he does however have attributes that could lead to success.
But it's not the biggest factor. RA knows him well for his system, that negates a lot of guesswork.
 
But it's not the biggest factor. RA knows him well for his system, that negates a lot of guesswork.
We’re four months and however many hundreds of millions on from a manager who appeared to fundamentally lack the ability to tell the difference between good and Premier League good. I’m not sure I’d be taken it as a given that the new guy will be any better on that front. He’ll have insight into the player, particularly mentally, but I’d only be doing deals like this if the scouting and data lined up with his thoughts.
 
ETH was as familiar with his former players, all of whom played in a stronger league.

Dutch league stronger than Portuguese? Not for transitioning to the PL. Dutch league is so wide open which is a stark contrast to the PL. Players just have so much time on the ball.

The Portuguese league is faster and more physical, while probably a little less technical and tactical than the Dutch league.
 
I watched him against Arsenal in the CL and a few other matches. He looks talented but still very undercooked as a player, as is only to be expected for a 17-year-old. The biggest things that stand out to me are that he is still pretty small/slight, his final third composure isn't really there yet, and that he has the habits of a player used to playing in slower leagues, especially a tendency to receive the ball while standing still or to receive it and then come to a stop or virtual stop before deciding what to do.

I think this is a player a big English club would see as a potential jewel of their academy but would still have in their U21s right now and would probably be looking to send on loan next year rather than promoting immediately. Or integrating him very slowly while he continued to play a lot at U21 level. I don't see him as a player that you can reasonably expect to come to England and play regularly in the PL immediately with a lot of success.

I can see him developing into a really good player, you can squint a bit and see a smaller Bukayo Saka in terms of his balance of quickness, left footed technique, and balance. But there's a lot of development that needs to happen.
 
Dutch league stronger than Portuguese? Not for transitioning to the PL. Dutch league is so wide open which is a stark contrast to the PL. Players just have so much time on the ball.

The Portuguese league is faster and more physical, while probably a little less technical and tactical than the Dutch league.


The Dutch League has a higher Uefa coefficient. The Portuguese league has a history of selling players for large sums of money, with many failing to meet expectations.
 
I just don't see the point why we should prioritize signing him now. No one discredits his massive talent, but not sure if he is ready yet for such a huge jump, while we would only limit our funds. We could let him grow for another year or two and sign him after that. If another team is faster and grab him first, move on to the next talent.
I am aware we need at least one upgrade on the wing back positions, but that for me should be someone who can start 50+ games, like Frimpong.
 
I just don't see the point why we should prioritize signing him now. No one discredits his massive talent, but not sure if he is ready yet for such a huge jump, while we would only limit our funds. We could let him grow for another year or two and sign him after that. If another team is faster and grab him first, move on to the next talent.
I am aware we need at least one upgrade on the wing back positions, but that for me should be someone who can start 50+ games, like Frimpong.

Yeah I could totally understand moving for him if we had the funds after signing proven number 9 and at least one midfielder, however doesn't sound like we do so need to be prioritising the important positions.
 
Frimpong, who'd cost about the same as Quenda and twice as experienced. We'll regret it when he joins Liverpool or City.
Genuinely i believe he would struggle in teams playing a back 4 but he is probably the best right wing back in the world. Only 24, I believe has release clause around 40 mill if it hasn't expired.

Already has 3 goals 8 assists this season. Finished last year with 13 goals 10 assists.

That's insane numbers.
 
Frimpong, who'd cost about the same as Quenda and twice as experienced. We'll regret it when he joins Liverpool or City.

Knowing us we’d sign Frimpong and Quenda would go to Liverpool and become their new Salah.

I’ve only seen Frimpong a few times for Netherlands and I’ve been a bit underwhelmed. Didn’t see what all the hype was about. Admittedly I’ve only seen him a few times.
 
Knowing us we’d sign Frimpong and Quenda would go to Liverpool and become their new Salah.

I’ve only seen Frimpong a few times for Netherlands and I’ve been a bit underwhelmed. Didn’t see what all the hype was about. Admittedly I’ve only seen him a few times.
Netherlands have been underwhelming for over 20 years mate
 
Knowing us we’d sign Frimpong and Quenda would go to Liverpool and become their new Salah.

I’ve only seen Frimpong a few times for Netherlands and I’ve been a bit underwhelmed. Didn’t see what all the hype was about. Admittedly I’ve only seen him a few times.
We shouldn't let fear of missing out drive our decisions. We are going to spend very little this summer. If amorim is not capable of improving the players he has then we need the most ready made and proven players we can add
 
Knowing us we’d sign Frimpong and Quenda would go to Liverpool and become their new Salah.

I’ve only seen Frimpong a few times for Netherlands and I’ve been a bit underwhelmed. Didn’t see what all the hype was about. Admittedly I’ve only seen him a few times.
Depends what Amorim wants. Does he want a natural attacking wing back or does he want a winger that can play wingback.
 
Netherlands have been underwhelming for over 20 years mate

True. I like the look of Quenda and, although I get that his signing comes with risks, I just wanted to point out that I don’t think Frimpong is a sure thing either.

We shouldn't let fear of missing out drive our decisions. We are going to spend very little this summer. If amorim is not capable of improving the players he has then we need the most ready made and proven players we can add

I know it was slightly tongue in cheek. Like I said above I just wanted to show that there’s no sure things, especially when it comes to us. He’s saying Quenda is inexperienced but to me that doesn’t matter if he’s the better player.


Depends what Amorim wants. Does he want a natural attacking wing back or does he want a winger that can play wingback.

I’m guessing Quenda is the “winger at wing back”? He does a good job defensively still. Like you said it depends what he prefers but, if you watch us, I think it’s clear we need some threat in this position otherwise we look too predictable.
 
I’m guessing Quenda is the “winger at wing back”? He does a good job defensively still. Like you said it depends what he prefers but, if you watch us, I think it’s clear we need some threat in this position otherwise we look too predictable.
True. The thing i’m worried about with Quenda though is, he’s left footed isn’t he. I don’t see how it works having a left footed RWB playing on the same side as like Amad. They’ll both prefer to cut in so they’ll be no one keeping width and overlapping on that side. That could become a problem.
 
True. The thing i’m worried about with Quenda though is, he’s left footed isn’t he. I don’t see how it works having a left footed RWB playing on the same side as like Amad. They’ll both prefer to cut in so they’ll be no one keeping width and overlapping on that side. That could become a problem.

Not really he doesn't just come inside he often goes on the outside and he's good with his right foot. I think you're missing a key point though, in Amorim's system when the wing back cuts inside the 10 on that side is supposed to be making the runs of a striker or go on the outside.

Our current setup of the 10s starting wide and cutting in is unlikely to survive into next season. It removes attacking options, it's why we're better with Amad at RWB.
 
Not really he doesn't just come inside he often goes on the outside and he's good with his right foot. I think you're missing a key point though, in Amorim's system when the wing back cuts inside the 10 on that side is supposed to be making the runs of a striker or go on the outside.

Our current setup of the 10s starting wide and cutting in is unlikely to survive into next season. It removes attacking options, it's why we're better with Amad at RWB.
I was just going off what I’ve been seeing this year. The 10s are playing more as wingers. Especially Garnacho on the left. So it is basically a 3-4-3 rather than a 3-4-2-1.
 
True. The thing i’m worried about with Quenda though is, he’s left footed isn’t he. I don’t see how it works having a left footed RWB playing on the same side as like Amad. They’ll both prefer to cut in so they’ll be no one keeping width and overlapping on that side. That could become a problem.
I agree with this. I think one should always be going on the outside. Gives you way more possibilities
 
The main issue with Quenda isn't talent or which foot he prefers. It is the price. Given where we are and what needs to be done to the squad it certainly isn't the right time to splash major amounts on players who are pretty unlikely to find their feet and contribute any time soon. Quenda is just turning 18, moving into a very different country, playing in a very different league, in a team that is yet to find even a formula that reliably gets us over the "functional side" line. Going for the worlds best talents is a game you have to afford to play. We can't afford it at all. Nothing wrong with having a young squad and if Quenda would come through our academy and would at least be used to the environment, I'd see things differently, but as it is, it wouldn't be a good business decision at all. We are 15th, lets not act only the shiniest talents in the world have what it takes to improve our team. This notion has to die. Especially given that resources are limited if not even tight.
 
The difference between Dorgu and Dalot is staggering. Dalot offers absolutely nothing on the RWB. Zero attacking outlet, zero physicality, zero pace.

Hopefully, if we sign this kid, we can see some improvement in the team.
 
Genuinely i believe he would struggle in teams playing a back 4 but he is probably the best right wing back in the world. Only 24, I believe has release clause around 40 mill if it hasn't expired.

Already has 3 goals 8 assists this season. Finished last year with 13 goals 10 assists.

That's insane numbers.
That's why we must sign him.
 
But it's not the biggest factor. RA knows him well for his system, that negates a lot of guesswork.
Oh boy. Just like ETH knew Antony, DVB, and Onana right?!

If anything, the player having played for the manager should be a NEGATIVE in player evaluation. It's far more likely to lead to bias/favoritism in the evaluation, due simply to familiarity bias and convenience. The odds that the player that makes the most sense for us in the world just happened to be playing for Amorim out of the hundreds of clubs he could've been at are basically zero.
 
Oh boy. Just like ETH knew Antony, DVB, and Onana right?!

If anything, the player having played for the manager should be a NEGATIVE in player evaluation. It's far more likely to lead to bias/favoritism in the evaluation, due simply to familiarity bias and convenience. The odds that the player that makes the most sense for us in the world just happened to be playing for Amorim out of the hundreds of clubs he could've been at are basically zero.
That's a lazy comparison besides, we hopefully have a better structure that has a say in the transfers this time. Have you watched the kid play? He looks decent.
 
Genuinely i believe he would struggle in teams playing a back 4 but he is probably the best right wing back in the world. Only 24, I believe has release clause around 40 mill if it hasn't expired.

Already has 3 goals 8 assists this season. Finished last year with 13 goals 10 assists.

That's insane numbers.
No, because Quenda can also play on the wing, so if the manager did ever change, and the formation changed again, he wouldn't immediately become surplus to requirements.

Frimpong is very good in one position, as part of one system. We shouldn't waste any money on him. It would just be a continuation of our poor recruitment policy from previous years.
 
Completely different position.
As of right now it’s Dorgu and Shaw. Dorgu can also play on the right as well along with Amad and Dalot. Also Incredibly risky banking on a 17 year old at sporting. The club needs PL proven talent to immediately turn our fortunes around. Kerkez and Cunha would be a great start.