Would be tragic and funny if he was bought to compete with Dorgu at RWB.Or the Right
Geovany Quenda - Summer 2025
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Only issue I have is the cost is probably too much for us, plus we really need some height and physicality in the team.
I just wonder would frimpong be cheaper?
Well, he did play there pretty much exclusively under Amorim so it shouldn’t come as a surprise if he did.
The new Geovany Quenda just dropped.
Ye I think he meant that Dorgu shouldn’t be competing with him for that position. Dorgu should be on the left side.
Probably, but I'd feel pretty confident in saying he also wouldn't be as good.
I just have doubts about a 17 year old who is gonna cost that amount. He can’t be expected to be making a major impact straight away. We need players who can impact now
yes that's what I meant, AKA when are we ever going to get an actual left back?
Sorry but that's disrespecting the last three seasons of Frimpong who's arguably been one of the best players in the Bundesliga - certainly the best in his position by miles - and a key factor to Leverkusen winning the double (league and league cup) and still doing well. Just because he's Dutch doesn't mean he's automatically bad. Other teams are just a bit reluctant to get him because as a RB, he'd not be used to his best. But as a RWB he's a weapon.
Meanwhile Geovany Quenda, though incredibly talented, is just a 17 year old teenager who just had his first ever season as a professional. He seems a great talent and potentially has a higher ceiling, but at the moment, Frimpong is miles above him.
i'm not sure i agree with that simply because he's made a solid impact at sporting and he's got bags of pace and ability on the ball......we had a young 20 years ago who people said the same about from sporting
I'm hoping this and Gyokeres are the 100% nailed on with a transfer like Ederson.
We need different profiles and I think Quenda will really be a top talent.
I think our wing back roles will be transformative for our team.
Once we have Dorgu and a new wing back (hopefully Quenda) I'm hoping that's the point where we start to throw numbers in the box as we will have quality in wide positions
We need different profiles and I think Quenda will really be a top talent.
I think our wing back roles will be transformative for our team.
Once we have Dorgu and a new wing back (hopefully Quenda) I'm hoping that's the point where we start to throw numbers in the box as we will have quality in wide positions
I'd personally like a new RAM over a new RWB.
I feel that Amad can do Quenda's job because sometimes Amad struggles as a young RAM.
I feel that Amad can do Quenda's job because sometimes Amad struggles as a young RAM.
Agree on Amad being better at rwb but I still think we need another player that can play replicate Amad’s quality in that position. The wingbacks are so important in Amorim’s system, we need at least 3 solid options
I am not sure if he is the player we need the most, but he definitely looks like a player who is going to make us more watchable.
Yeah 100%, Amad's most impactful games have been as a RWB and I think getting a quality RAM will be a much quicker wet to evaluate the whole side than a 17 year old wing back.
That’s… underwhelming.
From those recent highlights, a lot of his actions remind me of Garnacho. Which is odd considering the positions are very different.
Shearer?
Generally, I would agree we should be looking for players in age profiles that are ready to go now but I think exceptions can be made for players with a high enough ceiling. In some ways, now could be a good time to sign some of these high potential young players like Quenda. Even with a good transfer window, we'll be hard pressed to be challenging for anything significant next season anyway, so do we take a more patient approach with the rebuild and make sure we get it right?
The most important thing for me is that we don't sign more players who shrink in this environment. I can't claim to be an expert on Quenda but from what I've seen of him, I don't think he'd be one of those players. He'll be 18 by the time the summer rolls around and has already worked with our manager, so that may also speed things up in terms of knowing the expectations of the manager and the demands of the system.
I haven't said anything about Frimpong's nationality so I'm not sure where that has come from. He's done well for that Leverkusen team but my hunch is that he wouldn't reproduce his success here. Maybe I've been stung by too many Bundesliga flops but there's something about Frimpong that doesn't convince me.
He hasn't managed to break into the Dutch team so my feeling is that he might struggle unless the conditions are right for him. I also think the stakes feel a little bit higher with a player like him if things don't work out with Amorim and his system. If we revert to a 4-3-3/4-2-3-1 under a new manager, Frimpong would probably find himself lost and may need moving on. Quenda has already shown he can play a few positions and could move back to playing as a winger, as he has for Sporting.
I don't think it is considering his age, but for what we need right now, he doesn't look like he'll do much to improve us in the short term.
Probably not, I believe his €40m release clause has expired - would probably cost the same sort of amount.
I desire this kid simply because he is competition for 4 positions. Wing backs and inside 10s. In an ideal world you bag him and Frimpong in the same window. He who plays either side & Frimpong who has proven he can play as an inside right along side his godly rwb form.
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Because he’s basically a winger who can defend adequately. It’s why we’ve struggled under Amorim. Our wingers can’t defend and we’re forced to play fullbacks there and that makes us super defensive instead of the attacking football Amorim wants us to play.
Well the general view from the Dutch NT fans seems to be that they don't agree with the manager's decision.
I personally am much more sceptical whether such a young player from the Portuguese league can make an inatant impact here than a Bundesliga winner with plenty of experience. If I could choose a player from Sporting, I'd rather take Gyokeres, Diomande or Inacio right now.
We’ll buy him and start him in nets
We've looked so much better when playing an attacking player in that position with Amad. Quenda looks similar to me in that he's a comfortable dribbler, good with the ball in tight spaces and quick at closing, so I'd be happy to sign another player like that.
If we don't get it right with the wing backs we look so sterile. Frimpong might do a serviceable job there but it wouldn't excite me.
Have we ever had a successful signing from Bundesliga? Our track record from there is terrible.
I am much more sceptical about Dorgu - than I am about Quenda. With the latter you can see that he is extreme technically and in terms of pace - with Dorgu I see a hardworking., physical and fairly quick player who might turn out to be a good player for us - but is he good enough to take us closer to the top ? ...Is his potential THAT high ? Maybe....but I am not 100% convinced
I had reservations with the links under ETH given he uses fullbacks but Frimpong would be an excellent signing for Amorim. Has the versatility to attack and contribute defensively.
Convincing him might be an issue given the team will likely be out of Europe next season but I don't think there's a player more suited in world football who INEOS can send a proposal to thus actually adequately backing this manager.
Both a gamble I guess. But one I’m prepared to back. I just fear for the toxicity around the club if a17/18 year old doesn’t hit the ground running in a key position. Our fans are showing this season that they have no patience for a slow build.
Why would you be more sceptical of a portuguese player making the leap when we've seen that pathway successfully crossed by multiple players in recent years including some of our own best like Bruno? The German league feels far more incompatible based on recent converts. Also, and I know its one game but when Leverkusen played Atalanta last year, it was like men and boys and Frimpong looked lost in that physicality. I really would have no confidence in him thriving in a non-dominant team in the most physical league in the world.
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If that’s underwhelming then I’ll take a bit of underwhelming in our team any day.
The way on 3:50 he takes the ball tight on the touchline skips past two players before cutting back for someone to score.
If that’s underwhelming then I’ll take a bit of underwhelming in our team any day.
Dalot came when he was 19/20 iirc and it took him a while to even be ready to play here. Bruno was already an established star with more than 30 G/A in one season. At other clubs, players such as Fabio Silva or Vitinha struggled too as teenagers. Quenda is 17 and has scored 2 goals and 7 assists in 36 games.
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looks really physically gifted
I think we need more strong ball carriers in the squad
I think we need more strong ball carriers in the squad
And then his salary will obviously be a lot higher. So, no, Frimpong probably wouldn’t be a cheaper deal.
I wonder if he will be found out in the Prem, it’s great playing in a team dominating the ball and in a less physical league. But can he do it on a rainy night in Stoke blah blah.