Geovany Quenda - Summer 2025

He is a player Amorim knows very well, but will he be of use if/when Amorim leaves? I didn't watch much of him except vs City and he looked great in that game.

hopefully he is the type of player any manager will like, we need to get away from getting players specific to a manager and move towards getting players who are of high quality in terms of technical ability and great physicality and are able to function in different styles.
Absolutely, he's a winger by nature so he'll slot in seamlessly in attack even if he's not in a system that operates with wingbacks
 
We’ve really focused on buying youth, and it’s great. Hopefully means gone are the days of buying ready made slightly past it superstars for triple the cost

Would say though we do need an experienced midfielder and probably a ready made striker. We’ll see how we get on in summer

What midfielder and striker would you like to see brought in just out of interest?
 
Absolutely, he's a winger by nature so he'll slot in seamlessly in attack even if he's not in a system that operates with wingbacks
that's what I think as well, and from the clips he looks strong and quick, but he is still 17 and got time on his side to get better.
 
I wonder what the strategy is with the wing backs. My understanding is that one is usually an inverted winger in disguise as a wing back (Amad, Quenda etc.). They're expected to run at the defenders and pass inside using their strong foot to one of the #10s. They could get to the byline and provide a cutback as well. But generally when they get the ball the defence starts to retreat and become more compact.

The other wing back is more traditional and defensive. Left footed player on the left or right footed player on the right. Their job is to sit a touch deeper and provide early crosses in from deep (think Dalot).

I thought given we signed Dorgu already for LWB, we'll persist with Dalot at RWB and focus on signing a CF and an #8 instead this summer.

---------------------------- GK ------------------------------
-------------- RCB -------- CB ------- LCB -------------
-------------------- Ugarte -- #8 -------------------------
--- Quenda --- Amad -- Bruno -- Dorgu -------
------------------------------ ST ------------------------------

Feels a bit too heavy on the attack to me. We better hope the RCB and LCB are up to the task to make up for the defensive weakness.
 
Superb Potential signing yes he's 17 but he looks like the next superstar, I have only watched him against City.

Looks great technically, great burst of pace, love to see a combination of him and Amad interchanging during the game.
 
Imagine the culture shock of coming from a club where Ruben is regarded as a living saint and looking up to him as a kindly father figure, into our dressing room where the players are sticking "nob head" signs on Amorim's back and locking him in the DT cuboard.
 
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Seems a bit steep for for a 17 year old right back with less than 20 league games under his belt!
Have you seen any of his clips? He's rapid, has really good close control, great shooting and passing technique and looks like he has a bit of vision. This is incredibly rare at 17 and he already looks like he could be a future worldie once he starts becoming productive further up the field. Personally, I'm very excited about this one.
 
This is my point.

It feels like yet another project player when we need players that are ready for the first team now. Just because he's looked good in his first season in the Portuguese league, that doesn't mean he'll be ready for a level of club or league like ours.

We signed a young Wan-Bissaka off the back of one full season at Palace. It's far far too early to judge a player like Quenda yet.
Come on, people need to use your eyes. There was question marks all over the Hojlund, Zhirkzee and Antony signings for various reasons and they are the players that now look to have been poor signings. You just have to look at the threads. Same in the Dorgu thread now. There's obvious weaknesses/question marks to those players we signed that turned out to be pretty justified and obviously with Dorgu, we have to see if he can sand down his rough edges and become a good player for us.

With Quenda however, you can see this boy can do almost everything from an attacking point of view to a high standard. I'm sure it won't all be plain sailing and he might struggle for consistency at this early stage of his career but the qualities he has are undeniable. He's also seems very fast and that is one thing that gives him a huge advantage in the PL over Antony and Zhirkzee for instance.
 
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No chance you get this kid for €40m when he has a contract until 2027 and release clause that is close to 100m

€60m is most certainly going to be what it takes at minimum to get him away from Sporting

that said....talk about a MASSIVE upgrade in quality in the wing back positions with Dorgu and Quenda just in terms of pace and attacking ability
I think you're right. SCP will demand a fair bit more than what is being reported.
 
Have you seen any of his clips? He's rapid, has really good close control, great shooting and passing technique and looks like he has a bit of vision. This is incredibly rare at 17 and he already looks like he could be a future worldie once he starts becoming productive further up the field. Personally, I'm very excited about this one.

Exactly. Could be!

Could just as easily be back in the Portuguese league in four or five years time.

A lot of people are missing the point, its impossible to tell if a player this age is going to be up to it in the Premier League.

I know people are desperate for some sort of positive hope in every player that we sign (I am too by the way) but much like Dorgu, it feels like the wrong time for us to be signing these players. We should be going for players that have got a decent body of work under their belts, ideally around the 22-24 age category with at least 3 or 4 years of experience and something to really gauge how good they are.

If we continue to be a testing ground for players with potential then expect many more seasons like the current one to come.
 
Yes, but surely you can see the difference in our financial situation back then, compared to now. Whilst £30-35m may look like a bargain, we're currently broke to the point of considering selling a top young talent like Garnacho. How we spend our money right now is absolutely crucial and I just don't think it's the time to be taking any more gambles.
I don't believe we're actually broke; it's more about adhering to PSR regulations, which regulates our spending. If we were truly in a tight spot, we wouldn't be considering a £25m investment in Dorgu while still having Garnacho in the squad. We also aren't letting Garnacho go for anything less than a top fee, and no club has met our asking price yet. The reasoning behind the idea of selling Garnacho is that if we can secure a significant fee(a record sale or something close to it for us), it would allow us to significantly strengthen other areas of the squad while remaining within the constraints of the PSR regulations. Their financial manipulations aside, City and Chelsea actually sell their players for a lot which meant they can spend a lot without issues.

We saw the same news in the summer about us having only 50m to spend yet we spent close to 200m. McT, Greenwood and Kambwala sales helped comply with PSR regulations. I'd expect our spending in the summer to be similar again. Lindelof, Evans and Eriksen are all out of contract alongside Casemiro, Antony and Rashford who we are hoping to move on.
 
Exactly. Could be!

Could just as easily be back in the Portuguese league in four or five years time.

A lot of people are missing the point, its impossible to tell if a player this age is going to be up to it in the Premier League.

I know people are desperate for some sort of positive hope in every player that we sign (I am too by the way) but much like Dorgu, it feels like the wrong time for us to be signing these players. We should be going for players that have got a decent body of work under their belts, ideally around the 22-24 age category with at least 3 or 4 years of experience and something to really gauge how good they are.

If we continue to be a testing ground for players with potential then expect many more seasons like the current one to come.
It's the right time because we're absolutely dogshit and have nothing to lose and its going to take a while before we are competing for top trophies again. In order to compete with clubs that have Ballon D'Or level players like Salah, Rodri, Haaland, we need Ballon D'Or talent of our own and that's clearly not possible for us to buy that level talent because they're already at top clubs and we're broke so we need to identify the next generation. Yes, Quenda might not ever win the Balon D'Or but he has a very big reputation in scouting circles and he already looks like a very refined talent already in comparison to the likes of Dorgu who I personally felt was a bit over-priced.

Obviously, it's a big fee but I do feel with Quenda, he's a top tier talent and the fee could be justified. We paid almost €50 million for De Ligt and I personally feel that type of transfer is a way more stupid transfer to make.

EDIT: Corrected the original fee I put in for De Ligt
 
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I’m not massively convinced to be honest. Am I the only one who thinks he looks like he’s never in control of the ball in those clips? It’s always sort of either stuck under his feet or kicked way out in front at an awkward angle. He’s got a few nice nutmegs sure but his highlight reel looks very clunky imo
Hmm, I see what you're saying but he looks to me like he's in complete control. He's got deceptively long legs and quite a burst of pace. Seems like when he beats a man it has something to do with that perception that the ball is just a touch to far from his feet which I think tricks the defender into thinking he'll get to it first. Then a lil shimmy or a touch and he's past.

What I really like though is his weight of pass, and the fact that he often picks out runs that aren't in his immediate vicinity. That signals to me that he's scanning the pitch well and get very good awareness for a 17 yo. That understanding of space coupled with the tight control to exploit it is what got me so excited about Amad a few years back too.

If there's anything I'm not convinced about, it's that he seems quite 1-footed. He does use his right occasionally, but it looks a little awkward. We've seen how that can limit a player like Antony, but I think this kids got the physical attributes to get around that.
 
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It's the right time because we're absolutely dogshit and have nothing to lose and its going to take a while before we are competing for top trophies again. In order to compete with clubs that have Ballon D'Or level players like Salah, Rodri, Haaland, we need Ballon D'Or talent of our own and that's clearly not possible for us to buy that level talent because they're already at top clubs and we're broke so we need to identify the next generation. Yes, Quenda might not ever win the Balon D'Or but he has a very big reputation in scouting circles and he already looks like a very refined talent already in comparison to the likes of Dorgu who I personally felt was a bit over-priced.

Obviously, it's a big fee but I do feel with Quenda, he's a top tier talent and the fee could be justified. We paid €67 million for De Ligt and I personally feel that type of transfer is a way more stupid transfer to make.
Your fee is wrong and De Ligt is in his mid 20s, an established centre back whose played for some of the biggest clubs in the world.

He's had a good season in my opinion
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I wonder what the strategy is with the wing backs. My understanding is that one is usually an inverted winger in disguise as a wing back (Amad, Quenda etc.). They're expected to run at the defenders and pass inside using their strong foot to one of the #10s. They could get to the byline and provide a cutback as well. But generally when they get the ball the defence starts to retreat and become more compact.

The other wing back is more traditional and defensive. Left footed player on the left or right footed player on the right. Their job is to sit a touch deeper and provide early crosses in from deep (think Dalot).

I thought given we signed Dorgu already for LWB, we'll persist with Dalot at RWB and focus on signing a CF and an #8 instead this summer.

---------------------------- GK ------------------------------
-------------- RCB -------- CB ------- LCB -------------
-------------------- Ugarte -- #8 -------------------------
--- Quenda --- Amad -- Bruno -- Dorgu -------
------------------------------ ST ------------------------------

Feels a bit too heavy on the attack to me. We better hope the RCB and LCB are up to the task to make up for the defensive weakness.
That’s what a squad is for, that line up could be for games where we will dominate.
 
Your fee is wrong and De Ligt is in his mid 20s, an established centre back whose played for some of the biggest clubs in the world.

He's had a good season in my opinion
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Sorry, very quickly googled the fee and quoted the fee Bayern paid by accident but my point still stands. He might be an established centre back but we paid a substantial fee (€45 guaranteed rather than €67mn) and he's on extremely high wages for a non-elite centre back. We also signed a younger player who plays in his exact position in the same window when we were playing with a back four.

Based on his performance, that was a huge overpay for a position in world football that is stacked with talent.
 
Sorry, very quickly googled the fee and quoted the fee Bayern paid by accident but my point still stands. He might be an established centre back but we paid a substantial fee (€45 guaranteed rather than €67mn) and he's on extremely high wages for a non-elite centre back. We also signed a younger player who plays in his exact position in the same window when we were playing with a back four.

Based on his performance, that was a huge overpay for a position in world football that is stacked with talent.
He's a solid centre back in my opinion and there are worse centrebacks who are older and would cost more.
 
He's a solid centre back in my opinion and there are worse centrebacks who are older and would cost more.
He's fine. Very prone to big mistakes, defends well in the box, can be very exposed out wide so not great as a wide CB and isn't a good enough passer to be favoured over Maguire as the CCB. Juve and Bayern wouldn't both have gotten rid of him if he was top class. My point is that we are going to have paid a colossal amount over his contract for a player that we expect to be replaced by another player we bought in the same window. It made zero strategic sense - I can't be convinced we couldn't have found an equally effective defender for less.
 
Absolute must sign. You do everything in your power to sign a player like this. I still cannot believe he is 17!!!
 
I’ve hoped we went for Quenda over Gyokeres in the hypothetical situation if you could choose one Sporting player for Amorim to go back for. Quenda looks like a future star and is perfect for Amorim’s 3-4-3 system.
 
I’ve hoped we went for Quenda over Gyokeres in the hypothetical situation if you could choose one Sporting player for Amorim to go back for. Quenda looks like a future star and is perfect for Amorim’s 3-4-3 system.
I believe we're getting both, Gyokeres already has an agreement with Sporting to leave cheaper than his release clause, so we already know the rough figure required. I think we moved to secure Quenda while he was cheap, his value could have increased over the next few months.
 
Sorry, very quickly googled the fee and quoted the fee Bayern paid by accident but my point still stands. He might be an established centre back but we paid a substantial fee (€45 guaranteed rather than €67mn) and he's on extremely high wages for a non-elite centre back. We also signed a younger player who plays in his exact position in the same window when we were playing with a back four.

Based on his performance, that was a huge overpay for a position in world football that is stacked with talent.

Who else could we buy who was going to be less than €45m and better than De Light. Everton was quoting us 60-70m for Branthwaite, Yoro was €60m, Palace wouldn’t sell Guehe for £60m, City paid €40m plus two unproven kid centre backs.

If your argument was that we should have paid another 20-30m and signed a truly elite CB, then I may possibly agree with you but not sure if the above argument will have many takers.
 
I'll assume he's Antony replacement. While Dorgu would be viewed as Malacia replacement.
 
It's a mouthwatering prospect the thought of him and Amad developing a partnership...
That's what I'm most excited about. Although I'm portuguese and a Sporting fan (with a soft spot for United due to the interclub connection and mostly Nani), my favorite player at United is Amad (I actually check if he scored before Bruno). Having those two form a partnership for years really is mouth watering.
 
It's the right time because we're absolutely dogshit and have nothing to lose and its going to take a while before we are competing for top trophies again. In order to compete with clubs that have Ballon D'Or level players like Salah, Rodri, Haaland, we need Ballon D'Or talent of our own and that's clearly not possible for us to buy that level talent because they're already at top clubs and we're broke so we need to identify the next generation. Yes, Quenda might not ever win the Balon D'Or but he has a very big reputation in scouting circles and he already looks like a very refined talent already in comparison to the likes of Dorgu who I personally felt was a bit over-priced.

Obviously, it's a big fee but I do feel with Quenda, he's a top tier talent and the fee could be justified. We paid €67 million for De Ligt and I personally feel that type of transfer is a way more stupid transfer to make.

I liked this post until that last sentence....
 
I’m not massively convinced to be honest. Am I the only one who thinks he looks like he’s never in control of the ball in those clips? It’s always sort of either stuck under his feet or kicked way out in front at an awkward angle. He’s got a few nice nutmegs sure but his highlight reel looks very clunky imo
mate....u must be watching the wrong kid. he's electric on the ball and he played quite well against City in their CL match.

He's no where near his peak or ceiling so plenty of room to improve especially his end product, but he's got bags of potential. More so than any youngster we've brought to the club in quite some time.
 
Looks absolutely wild from this compilation, achieved basically nothing in any of the clips.
It's just a dribbling compilation. Check his goal against Porto and his assist for Gyökeres against Citeh in the CL. That shows you glimpses of his ability against quality opponents. The kid is only 17 and obviously still developing. Not many players with 17 have his accomplishments. Imagine what proper guidance and development like Ronaldo had at United when he arrived from Sporting can do for him.
 
He's unreal for a 17 year old. Great eye for a pass. Balanced control. Burst of pace. Very athletic and can run all day long. Hope we sign him.