His defensive game will likely be unrefined due to him still being 17. But I think the hope is that his in-possession play will compensate for his defensive frailties as he develops.
Geovany Quenda - Summer 2025
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Seems like a bargain if his potential is as high as people say.
Also would be amazing to have a summer deal already confirmed for once. Other clubs seem to manage it.
Also would be amazing to have a summer deal already confirmed for once. Other clubs seem to manage it.
If we can get him and for around that price it’s a very good deal for us. I know we are lowly placed in the table but we will still have more pulling power than most.
He will give us great flexibility too.
He will give us great flexibility too.
This would be fantastic business.
A Bola constantly claims bullshit as fact. ‘The transfer is certain’ seems similaily so at this point.
Ornstein has built a rep on checking his claims against good sources. ‘ United are exploring’ and ‘have not made formal contact’ seems reliable enough.
Would be a class signing and that seems like a (fairly) sensible price.
Yeah but the main pull here is that Amorim is our manager.
Hundred percent.
I want Rodrgy Mora at Porto.
I think O jogo is the more reliable Portuguese outlet. A Bola is not really but good to know that Ornstein has also posted it himself though
Him and Gyokeres please.
He reminds me a bit of Saka when he first broke through, albeit a bit smaller in stature - very quick, good dribbler, obviously got a good football brain, still a bit unrefined in terms of his final third actions and shooting technique and also a bit on the one footed side. If he can improve those aspects of his game like Saka did, you can see a top player there.
Amorim's system makes it hard but I think this kind of player really fits the LW/RW much better than wingback. You don't really want him defending half the game and its also a lot to ask a teenager that is still developing physically to do the amount of running wingback requires in the PL. Saka of course came through as a LB/LWB but was moved quickly up front not only to maximize his talents but also because its just a very demanding role physically.
Amorim's system makes it hard but I think this kind of player really fits the LW/RW much better than wingback. You don't really want him defending half the game and its also a lot to ask a teenager that is still developing physically to do the amount of running wingback requires in the PL. Saka of course came through as a LB/LWB but was moved quickly up front not only to maximize his talents but also because its just a very demanding role physically.
my worry watching some of the clips and a game in CL that he played, he is another one of those who doesn't look has the ability to go outside or hug the line, we are already too congested in the middle and its way to easy to stop us on our track. May be iam wrong. He is only 17, so there is plenty of time to improve, but not sure at this moment though.Brilliant news. Amad and him on the right will be a nightmare for defenders. Both constantly running at you and there's no peace off the ball too.
Now if we get Gyokeres along with him too...
This would be excellent. Just need a striker (and maybe another CM) and we should be fine for next season.
Would Sporting really let Amorim take Quenda and Gyokeres in the same window?
They will leave either way, to us or someone else
Never watched him play but there seems to be quite alot of people saying he is a big talent.
I hadn't heard of him being a big talent prior to us getting Amorim either.
I know that he plays RWB but what is his best position?
I hadn't heard of him being a big talent prior to us getting Amorim either.
I know that he plays RWB but what is his best position?
Seems a bit steep for for a 17 year old right back with less than 20 league games under his belt!
The reported fee sounds fairly modest for a highly rated teenager. I'd be onboard with it, we definitely need wingbacks who are more capable in an attacking sense.
In a couple of seasons our squad will be unrecognisable. Full of super-athletic, rapid, skilled, young physical specimen of players.
We will be relentless in our attack -- and we will just wear teams down by half time.
We will be relentless in our attack -- and we will just wear teams down by half time.
Aye always the next one, good leak Jim to Ornstein earlier, typical United in January.
How does Quenda compare to Amad?
Trying to envisage what both would be like together
Trying to envisage what both would be like together
For his age and the quality he has already shown in the CL and the Portuguese league, it's not that steep. We are paying for potential and you have a Sporting fan who's saying he'll be much expensive than that so if we manage to get him for 40m euros it would be a very good deal.
This is the transfer that is needed, yes.
We payed for potential with Hojilund, Zirkzee, Yoro, and Antony too. Only one of them may or may not work out. It's risky unless you already have a good to excellent squad to fall back on.
the difference is that signings from the dutch league are generally of a much worse quality than from the portugese league. The latter definitely has a higher success rate, especially with us. As for why that is - I'm not sure. Maybe the leagues are more similar in nature or maybe the dutch league is just complete utter trash cause the majority of managers and players from there tend to fare badly elsewhere.
This is my point.
It feels like yet another project player when we need players that are ready for the first team now. Just because he's looked good in his first season in the Portuguese league, that doesn't mean he'll be ready for a level of club or league like ours.
We signed a young Wan-Bissaka off the back of one full season at Palace. It's far far too early to judge a player like Quenda yet.
Could be naughty naughty
While he's a great prospect, this seems a hell of a gamble given our financial situation... Amorim must be confident though.
Also amusing it's appeared on the last day of an otherwise massively disappointing January transfer window. Standard Glazers.
Also amusing it's appeared on the last day of an otherwise massively disappointing January transfer window. Standard Glazers.
We can sign more than one player in a window; we also signed De Ligt, Martinez, Ugarte, Casemiro etc
have you seen The Avengers?
Amorim's areolas?
In theory Quenda at RWB and Dorgu at LWB will instantly give us much more balance and allow Amad to play more advanced.
I don't dare to dream it as a reality though. Also I know very little about Quenda but my Sporting supporting colleague thinks he is great. Always risky when going for young players from lower quality leagues though.
I don't dare to dream it as a reality though. Also I know very little about Quenda but my Sporting supporting colleague thinks he is great. Always risky when going for young players from lower quality leagues though.
We overpayed for Antony and Hojlund. That's the difference. Antony was £80m and Hojlund was £72m . Surely you can see the difference between those amounts and £33m(referencing the €40m price quoted by Ornstein)? If he doesn't work out we can easily get £20m-25m back for him and its not a huge loss. Same with Zirkzee. He was £34m, if we want to move him on we can get £20m-25m for him. Ofcourse that depends on the assumption that we can get Quenda for that amount. Anything closer to £60m I'd say we steer away and focus on more established players.
And I know I'm in the minority here but I like Hojlund and I think he will work out. He scored couple of goals and could have had 2-3 assists under Amorim already so I want to see how he does under Amorim with a proper pre-season under him. Both his seasons with us he started with injuries which meant he completely missed any kind of pre-season.
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This would be absolutely superb. If the fee is around the £34m reported too. Then wow!
He is a player Amorim knows very well, but will he be of use if/when Amorim leaves? I didn't watch much of him except vs City and he looked great in that game.
hopefully he is the type of player any manager will like, we need to get away from getting players specific to a manager and move towards getting players who are of high quality in terms of technical ability and great physicality and are able to function in different styles.
hopefully he is the type of player any manager will like, we need to get away from getting players specific to a manager and move towards getting players who are of high quality in terms of technical ability and great physicality and are able to function in different styles.
No chance you get this kid for €40m when he has a contract until 2027 and release clause that is close to 100m
€60m is most certainly going to be what it takes at minimum to get him away from Sporting
that said....talk about a MASSIVE upgrade in quality in the wing back positions with Dorgu and Quenda just in terms of pace and attacking ability
€60m is most certainly going to be what it takes at minimum to get him away from Sporting
that said....talk about a MASSIVE upgrade in quality in the wing back positions with Dorgu and Quenda just in terms of pace and attacking ability
We have PTSD as United fans signing players from managers previous clubs. None have ever worked out.
That said, alot of it was Ten Hag really, he completely fecked us over.
Hopefully we do our own due diligence and not just take the word of the manager.
That said, alot of it was Ten Hag really, he completely fecked us over.
Hopefully we do our own due diligence and not just take the word of the manager.
Yes, but surely you can see the difference in our financial situation back then, compared to now. Whilst £30-35m may look like a bargain, we're currently broke to the point of considering selling a top young talent like Garnacho. How we spend our money right now is absolutely crucial and I just don't think it's the time to be taking any more gambles.