Geovany Quenda - Summer 2025

[Bojan Djordjic]

It’s not exclusively about supply, it is also about shape. Width. City don’t play with wing backs, and have wide players to stretch CB the pitch. I think the whole point of wing backs are to stretch play and play a vertical game, controlling the flank. A left footed RWB looking to come inside to where a left footed Amad wants to further come inside just seems a little counter productive in my personal opinion.

Wouldn't get too bogged down with positions with Quenda given he's 18 and this is a long term investment. He has shown he can play left and right and seems to have the skill set for wing back and winger. As much as everyone would like Amorim to be a success, the reality is that there's no guarantees the he would be the manager for the long term and consequently that we will be playing with wingbacks into the future.

 

[daba]

This guy is the one. Seems to have fantastic pace, agility and decision making. Can also play on both sides in this system.

Should be our no.1 priority in the summer, closely followed by a striker.

 

[Yoro]

Sounds like it's done?

 

[Berbasbullet]

Sounds like it's done?

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[Joseunited]

?

As per A Bola.50m
Not the most reliable source out of Portugal.

 

[Yoro]

?

Been plenty of smoke saying it's done for the summer and he's only being linked to us.

 

[FortunaUtd]

I certainly hope we're not spending another 50m on a 17 year old. By the time these signing reach a good level, all the people who bought them will be long sacked and then there will be new overpriced teenagers being bought for the next guy.

 

[bosskeano]

I certainly hope we're not spending another 50m on a 17 year old. By the time these signing reach a good level, all the people who bought them will be long sacked and then there will be new overpriced teenagers being bought for the next guy.

mate....this kid would start rigth now for United

 

[FortunaUtd]

mate....this kid would start rigth now for United

That might be true, but do they have the level right now to prevent the person starting them from being sacked?

 

[criticalanalysis]

Looks like a very talented 17 year old with some mature decision making if also rough around all the edges. Would be a good addition but at what cost (opportunity of other glaring holes in the squad)?

 

[Remember the geese]

That might be true, but do they have the level right now to prevent the person starting them from being sacked?

Yes.

 

[pcaming]

Not feeling this signing for 50 million. Way too risky for us right now.

 

[Remember the geese]

Not feeling this signing for 50 million. Way too risky for us right now.

I don't consider it risky. He's the best player we could possibly hope to sign in that position.

 

[Zumbi]

Not feeling this signing for 50 million. Way too risky for us right now.

Every single transfer we can afford is a risk. So the only real question that remains for me is should we trust Amorim’s judgement on what he thinks he needs to succeed or not? If not, I’m really not sure what the point of bringing him in was.

Our transfer policy has been awful for over a decade. Amorim hasn’t been any part of that and he’s been been brought in to try and improve our fortunes. Seems like a no brainer to at least give him some backing for one transfer window, and a highly touted versatile and athletic young player who likely won’t be on huge wages seems like far less of a risk than the profiles we’ve spaffed money on recently.

 

[RedSky]

Kind of reminds me of the Haland transfer when Ole wanted him but the club didnt push for it. If you've got a Manager and they rave about a youngster from their previous club, trust their judgement.

 

[Gordon S]

Looks like a very talented 17 year old with some mature decision making if also rough around all the edges. Would be a good addition but at what cost (opportunity of other glaring holes in the squad)?

These outstanding talents, like Yoro, Amad or Quenda, is what we need to elevate our level. They don`t become available too often. If we have a chance, we just have to go for it.

 

[macheda14]

I certainly hope we're not spending another 50m on a 17 year old. By the time these signing reach a good level, all the people who bought them will be long sacked and then there will be new overpriced teenagers being bought for the next guy.

Even if he is one of the most highly rated young players in the world?

Kind of reminds me of the Haland transfer when Ole wanted him but the club didnt push for it. If you've got a Manager and they rave about a youngster from their previous club, trust their judgement.

Just to think how close we were to both Bellingham and Haaland while Ole was here. Sliding doors moment that.

 

[Leftback99]

Kind of reminds me of the Haland transfer when Ole wanted him but the club didnt push for it. If you've got a Manager and they rave about a youngster from their previous club, trust their judgement.

Hmm

 

[Gordon S]

I certainly hope we're not spending another 50m on a 17 year old. By the time these signing reach a good level, all the people who bought them will be long sacked and then there will be new overpriced teenagers being bought for the next guy.

This kid is younger than youth players like Harry Amass and Shea Lacey and already one of Sportings best players. Looks electric on both flanks.
I do believe he could be a starter for us come next season. With Ruben or someone new.

 

[Adnan]

Looks like a very talented 17 year old with some mature decision making if also rough around all the edges. Would be a good addition but at what cost (opportunity of other glaring holes in the squad)?

I acknowledge your point and it would beg the question about the other more glaring problems in the team that need fixing before we spend big money on Quenda. I don't believe the wingers/wingbacks will make a big enough difference without having a strong midfield and CB trio. Any midfield that has midfielders that struggle to impose themselves on the game by way of threading the lines in-possession and containing transitions out of possession (when the space opens up for the opposition to counter quickly) will hamper the system of play. IMO any system that aims to be proactive has to be built around the CBs and deeper midfielders. If you as a coach have weaknesses in those positions as far as progressing the ball forward and controlling spaces out of possession, then there will be a problem.

I'm all for the signing of Quenda, I think he's potentially a elite level winger/wide forward and having the opportunity to sign such a precocious talent has to be taken up. But how well the system functions will largely depend on how strong the CBs and deeper midfield is as far as controlling the game with and without the ball in a higher defensive line.

 

[Pav1878]

Even if he is one of the most highly rated young players in the world?


Just to think how close we were to both Bellingham and Haaland while Ole was here. Sliding doors moment that.

True but we would have ruined them.

 

[aeh1991]

mate....this kid would start rigth now for United

This is not guaranteed. The transition from the Portuguese league to the EPL is not an easy one and we hardly have a successful example. Same with a young player coming to this league at that age. Regardless of how good he is doing there. We're talking about 50m. If he was available for 20m, I would instantly say yes but it would mean we would sign him as one of 3-4 signings we could do. My thinking might be too conservative on this one, but for me it's definitely a risky move.

The comparisons with Haaland and Bellingham are rubbish too. Look up how much they've went for to Salzburg and Dortmund respectively.

 

[Bojan Djordjic]

This is not guaranteed. The transition from the Portuguese league to the EPL is not an easy one and we hardly have a successful example. Same with a young player coming to this league at that age. Regardless of how good he is doing there. We're talking about 50m. If he was available for 20m, I would instantly say yes but it would mean we would sign him as one of 3-4 signings we could do. My thinking might be too conservative on this one, but for me it's definitely a risky move.

The comparisons with Haaland and Bellingham are rubbish too. Look up how much they've went for to Salzburg and Dortmund respectively.

I think there's plenty of good examples like Bruno, Ruben Dias, Matheus Nunes, (to Wolves), Ruben Neves, Coutinho, Luis Diaz who have moved to England, not to mention players like Joao Neves and Eder Militao who have moved directly to major Champions League clubs and maintained their high levels.

It's definitely a risky move particularly as it does seem higher but on the other hand, he looks a special talent and probably a rare time we should just spend the cash. We do need players that look like they have a bit of stardust as we look so devoid of game breakers.

 

[aeh1991]

I think there's plenty of good examples like Bruno, Ruben Dias, Matheus Nunes, (to Wolves), Ruben Neves, Coutinho, Luis Diaz who have moved to England, not to mention players like Joao Neves and Eder Militao who have moved directly to major Champions League clubs and maintained their high levels.

It's definitely a risky move particularly as it does seem higher but on the other hand, he looks a special talent and probably a rare time we should just spend the cash. We do need players that look like they have a bit of stardust as we look so devoid of game breakers.

They were not 17 though. Yes only Joao Neves and Militao made it directly. But they play in different leagues and there's no guarantee Quenda can pull that off as well. Just saying for 50m I would expect an instant starter and if he can't live up to the expectations, we only burned money again. Maybe it's better to wait for another year to see if he can confirm that he's that special and develop to an even better player, before spending that much. Of course another team COULD come first to snatch him up but I doubt other clubs would pay as much as we'd do.

 

[Rolaholic]

 

[pocco]

I can’t remember the last player we had that could consistently beat players and had searing pace. Is it any wonder we’ve been so predictable for the last however many years?

 

[pocco]

He looks really good for a 17 year old, good potential is through the roof.

On a side note, you can see how Amorims system worked better there. The distribution from the defenders is on another level to what we have.

 

[CallyRed]

Music similar to one of those erotic movies Channel 5 showed back in the day on a Friday night.

 

[dubplate warrior]

He's a huge talent. Would be a massive coup.

 

[Zumbi]

I acknowledge your point and it would beg the question about the other more glaring problems in the team that need fixing before we spend big money on Quenda. I don't believe the wingers/wingbacks will make a big enough difference without having a strong midfield and CB trio. Any midfield that has midfielders that struggle to impose themselves on the game by way of threading the lines in-possession and containing transitions out of possession (when the space opens up for the opposition to counter quickly) will hamper the system of play. IMO any system that aims to be proactive has to be built around the CBs and deeper midfielders. If you as a coach have weaknesses in those positions as far as progressing the ball forward and controlling spaces out of possession, then there will be a problem.

I'm all for the signing of Quenda, I think he's potentially a elite level winger/wide forward and having the opportunity to sign such a precocious talent has to be taken up. But how well the system functions will largely depend on how strong the CBs and deeper midfield is as far as controlling the game with and without the ball in a higher defensive line.

I happen to think a reverse of this statement holds just as much truth: I don't believe strong CBs/midfield will make a big enough difference in Amorim’s system without having some creativity and penetration in the wide areas via proper WBs.

One of our most obvious deficiencies right now is our inability to stretch teams, work openings and create chances. Even if we get the personnel to control games better, we’re still going to lose games and drop points if we can’t figure out how to score a lot more goals than we do currently. And the WBs seem key to that happening in Amorim’s system.

When you then consider the wide players that will likely never play for us again (Rashford, Sancho, Anthony, Shaw), adding some more quality on the flanks seems absolutely imperative to me. Whilst I agree that we desperately need reinforcements in the middle, especially a mobile MF who can control the tempo and pass through the lines, I just think our needs out wide are just as glaring if Amorim is to be a success.

 

[Tallis]

A little split on this one - ideally, Quenda stays another season at Sporting and we buy him in 2026 as we likely have more pressing priorities this summer. On the other hand, if a top quality player who understands the managers tactics is available for a reasonable price, it will be a pity not to sign them.

I think we need at least 1 CM, 1 striker, 1 forward, 1 RWB, and 1 CB this summer. That's approaching EUR250-300m of spend so suspect we need to prioritize.

 

[criticalanalysis]

I acknowledge your point and it would beg the question about the other more glaring problems in the team that need fixing before we spend big money on Quenda. I don't believe the wingers/wingbacks will make a big enough difference without having a strong midfield and CB trio. Any midfield that has midfielders that struggle to impose themselves on the game by way of threading the lines in-possession and containing transitions out of possession (when the space opens up for the opposition to counter quickly) will hamper the system of play. IMO any system that aims to be proactive has to be built around the CBs and deeper midfielders. If you as a coach have weaknesses in those positions as far as progressing the ball forward and controlling spaces out of possession, then there will be a problem.

I'm all for the signing of Quenda, I think he's potentially a elite level winger/wide forward and having the opportunity to sign such a precocious talent has to be taken up. But how well the system functions will largely depend on how strong the CBs and deeper midfield is as far as controlling the game with and without the ball in a higher defensive line.

I don't disagree. In fact, this is what I said in Mainoo's thread a few days ago:

A lot of the criticism of Mainoo is fair but until we finally seeing a Man Utd team that dominates the ball and midfield, I always verge on the side of 'yes he can do better but is the system really giving him a platform to perform?'. I've probably thought that for all of our players in the past 10+ years. It's why I hated ETH's approach last year despite seeing some progressive change in his first year and why I worry what we're seeing under Amorim too.

Quenda looks like a very good talent and if reports are true about it being a 'done deal', I'll be lying if the muppet in me isn't excited by his signature. However, I've seen this play out so many times in the last decade that it's giving PTSD. I just want a strong central spine of CBs and midfielders that can overwhelm/compete against the opposition with athleticism and technique. If it was that choice (e.g Diomande, Stiller etc) and/or signing attacking talents, I'd probably go for the former as much as it hurts me to say.

 

[Isotope]

Did I miss something? I didn't see him dribbling passed any player even once in the whole 90 minutes.

 

[Rolaholic]

Did I miss something? I didn't see him dribbling passed any player even once in the whole 90 minutes.

Those weren't highlights, just literally every single action of the match that he was involved in.

That account does that for different players, showcasing every touch in a match to give more context than your regular highlight reels can show.

 

[Isotope]

Those weren't highlights, just literally every single action of the match that he was involved in.

That account does that for different players, showcasing every touch in a match to give more context than your regular highlight reels can show.

I know. And my point still stand.

 

[Adnan]

I don't disagree. In fact, this is what I said in Mainoo's thread a few days ago:



Quenda looks like a very good talent and if reports are true about it being a 'done deal', I'll be lying if the muppet in me isn't excited by his signature. However, I've seen this play out so many times in the last decade that it's giving PTSD. I just want a strong central spine of CBs and midfielders that can overwhelm/compete against the opposition with athleticism and technique. If it was that choice (e.g Diomande, Stiller etc) and/or signing attacking talents, I'd probably go for the former as much as it hurts me to say.

Agreed.

 

[Adnan]

I happen to think a reverse of this statement holds just as much truth: I don't believe strong CBs/midfield will make a big enough difference in Amorim’s system without having some creativity and penetration in the wide areas via proper WBs.

One of our most obvious deficiencies right now is our inability to stretch teams, work openings and create chances. Even if we get the personnel to control games better, we’re still going to lose games and drop points if we can’t figure out how to score a lot more goals than we do currently. And the WBs seem key to that happening in Amorim’s system.

When you then consider the wide players that will likely never play for us again (Rashford, Sancho, Anthony, Shaw), adding some more quality on the flanks seems absolutely imperative to me. Whilst I agree that we desperately need reinforcements in the middle, especially a mobile MF who can control the tempo and pass through the lines, I just think our needs out wide are just as glaring if Amorim is to be a success.

I get your point and having wingers who can stretch the play adds that little extra to how well the team functions.

But when it comes to making the system stronger, more functional and highly effective, the CBs and deeper midfielders are absolutely vital because not only does the attack begin from the back via the build up phase but the same players will then be tasked with controlling the centre of the pitch and wide channels when the space opens up on the counter. If there's weaknesses within the aforementioned positions then it will hamper the team dynamic.

Amorim's system is pretty simple, he needs players who can progress play from the first two lines at a good level and also the same players are required to defend transitions in a higher line. We as a team haven't been able to do this for way too long and it's why I believe targeting specific players in central midfield who fit the aforementioned criteria is a must if we want to see a quick turn around which I believe is a possibility if they target the correct profile of players.

So having great options outwide is great and I'm all for it, but without the backline and deeper midfielders contributing at a good to high level in possession to progress the ball forward and also to snuff out transitions in a higher defensive line without the ball, the system won't be as effective because the heart of the team will be weak hence the advanced attackers will have a weak foundation behind them who struggle to progress the ball against the opposition's press and also struggle in bigger spaces against the transition threat.

 

[Kweku Amonoo]

He’s not a 50m talent, tbh. At least not in that performance and the few others that I’ve seen. He’s not going to bring any significant improvement to the team, and we’d just be spending 50m just because we can.

We’re better spending it on central midfielders who can dictate play, and possibly a striker.

 

[croadyman]

Even if he is one of the most highly rated young players in the world?


Just to think how close we were to both Bellingham and Haaland while Ole was here. Sliding doors moment that.

Still feel physically sick we fecked up both deals

 

[tenpoless]

50m doesnt seem expensive when you consider its the kind of money that will get you a decent PL winger aka not that much better than him currently but definitely less talented and much older.

There are times to be stingy but this is not the time. Just because we have to be careful doesnt mean we have to be careful all the time. Quenda is a no brainer.