That's an article from 2015...
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And people wonder why there's class conflict.
Exactly which policy benefiting the poor are you referring to here?
He would probably argue that he can generate 10x what he costs by way of additional donations & access to funding.
This is why I think it's risky for May. I'm a conservative man, but would be all over Labour if they promise to reverse article 50. Labour has nothing to lose!
It makes sense from a Brexit/Labour point of view if that's how you voted, but I can't understand how anyone can think that voting for the Tories could ever be a protest against Brexit. How does that make sense?
this is probably one of the most refreshing things Ive ever read in the current events on the Caf
it wont make you popular though
You're putting far too much into the Brexit bit. He just doesn't like people poorer than him who are all lazy, get everything and also don't exist anyway.
But its true isn't it?
I work very very hard and pay very high taxes despite never using state services like education, health etc. I was fine with that.
But the Leave vote, which was propped up by people unlike me has pissed me off to the edge. I want to remain in Europe and I want Britain to be international.
Labours policy seems to be that we should leave Europe and people like me pay even more to prop up those who caused us to leave in the first place.
To be fair, the Tories:
- Raised the Personal Allowance to £11.5k (a Lib Dem policy) taking millions of poor and working class people out of the first income tax rate altogether.
- Introduced the National Living Wage, now at £7.50 per hour, and will likely rise to nearly £10 by 2020. (Two Labour Policies)
- Re-introduced vocational qualifications after Labour (the party of the working class) decided that working class jobs shouldn't be taught in school.
- Have said they are scrapping Tenancy fees. (A labour policy)
- Are building lots of houses (although still slower than the rate of building in the 60's to 80's)
- Gave everyone the opportunity to vote for Brexit.
If you are a low-earning working class voter, who has seen Eastern Europeans come in and do the same job you do for less, why would you vote Labour?
What is remotely refreshing about it? The suggestion that there isn't poor people in the UK is a disgusting lie.
A) This will not stop Brexit
B) I understand why people would vote Lib Dem esp. if they do not like JC.
Corbyn's pitch in TV just now was that he would reverse austerity and invest so he can 'provide for all those living in poverty'.
Basically tax high earners even more, so 'the poor' (whoever they are) can get even more. Im not funding yet another labour spending spree.
You get more from the state than you'll ever put in everytime step on a road.
-It's not affordable housing.
-Is there any evidence for this ? Pretty sure there isn't.
Can you describe these 'poor' people to me?
I'll describe the poor people Ive met in Tanzania, Bangladesh and Brazil.
Wanna play?
LibDems have got the begging bowl out already.
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Seems to be the straw that has broken the camels back and it's a bloody odd reaction to it.
Or that they don't work hard....
I think this would be a good post for your thread where you were looking for differences between people.
Does this not weaken the future Labour leader?
https://www.theguardian.com/comment...n-benefit-sanctions-death-government-policies
There you go. But hey, you didn't owe him anything so I guess it's one less on the 'getting everything' list.
The living wage was just a rebranding on the minimum wage, which would have coincindetally risen to the same level at the same time.
Put down the Daily Mail, its bad for your brain.
Nice. Life long Labour voters coming out with tripe like: majority of Brexit voters are poor (but not really, they all have plasma TVs lulz), lazy, and don't deserve my money.
Corbyn has really fecked us
Corbyn has really fecked us
Some of it is nonsense, yes. There will still be a lot of genuinely good people in the charity sector, I'm sure but I know of a couple of places where the 'piss-taking' approach goes on. All mired in rules & regulation, every 'client' contact formalised in targets & red tape <--- that is happening as well.
Possibly a more complex issue than my 3 sentence appalling Mail-esque ranting is helping to shed (very little) light on.
Its true isn't it?
bLiar minus Iraq worked for me. I could live with that kind of socialism. But this Corbyn nonsense has no relevance in 21st century Britain. We are desperate for immigration to do our work, so there are plenty of jobs and opportunities. I really wish they lifted things like unemployment benefits - its a complete sham.
Not really sure Corbyn has done anything to influence those lines of thought to be honest.
Yep. Labour didn't talk like this before Corbyn, back when they were infinitely more electable.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2013/oct/12/labour-benefits-tories-labour-rachel-reeves-welfare
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-33590465
Bring back the good old days.
Yeah, I don't understand it personally, but that's what he's claiming, at least.
It won't make him popular because it's nonsense. There a lot of working poor people in the UK, and food banks are at breaking point.
A- It won't but it will serve as a warning. There's a strong minority that is ready to shift from one party to another if appeased. That is what Ukip voters did and it works all the time
B- I faced a JC before back home and the only way you get rid of people like him is to have them pass from at least 1 crushing defeat.
Aye I wonder if he'd be so proud to show Brendan Cox the Caf now seeing as he's shitting all over everything Jo Cox stood for.
What a ridiculous comparison.
There are people in this country that are poor and struggle to pay their bills and feed their families. They struggle to clothe their children to attend school. Just because you don't know anybody like this (because you obviously work really, really hard) doesn't mean to say these issues don't exist.
I don't have a great grasp of the matter at hand but the idea that people are (probably) going to vote Tory over Labour again is just depressing.
That's from someone who acknowledges Corbyn is a tool and Labour are a bit of mess.
That's from someone who acknowledges Corbyn is a tool and Labour are a bit of mess.
You want to remain in Europe and plan to vote for the Tories?
You want Britain to be international and plan to vote for the Tories whose vision of a 'truly global Britain' is to bash foreigners on almost every opportunity but lick Saudi Arabia's and other dictatorships' arses?
Okay.
I don't think I understand your point.
Did you... Just quote something from the Mourinho thread?
I'm so sick of us not having a decent option. How about we just feck the whole thing off. 
Vote Green. We mean well.