General Election 2017 | Cabinet reshuffle: Hunt re-appointed Health Secretary for record third time

How do you intend to vote in the 2017 General Election if eligible?

  • Conservatives

    Votes: 80 14.5%
  • Labour

    Votes: 322 58.4%
  • Lib Dems

    Votes: 57 10.3%
  • Green

    Votes: 20 3.6%
  • SNP

    Votes: 13 2.4%
  • UKIP

    Votes: 29 5.3%
  • Independent

    Votes: 3 0.5%
  • Plaid Cymru

    Votes: 2 0.4%
  • Sinn Fein

    Votes: 11 2.0%
  • Other (UUP, DUP, BNP, and anyone else I have forgotten)

    Votes: 14 2.5%

  • Total voters
    551
  • Poll closed .
If it's a Labour majority I will dance for week, given sufficient energising supplements - and I am 60.
 
My fear is too much Labour support in the safe areas.

Mine too. It seems like the Labour strategy has been to not lose seats so they've spent a fair bit of time in Labour territory. That's been great for clips of full stadiums screaming Corbyn but it won't help close any sort of gap.
 
He's not wrong though, with regard to the media interaction. If memory serves, we had a dedicated debate just for the Chancellor and Shadow Chancellor during the 2015 campaign. Here, those two individuals have been mostly MIA.

I don't remember an Osborne vs Ball debate? But aye, Hammond seems like a much less prevalent Chancellor than the Osborne/Brown type.
 
There is nothing to her is there? The only good thing about her carrying on is the comedy of her thinking she's got the EU on the ropes. She'll be dragged out of the Brexit negotiations like Moe flying Homer out of the ring.

An empty shell, getting the popcorn ready for when the Brexit negotiations start, could do with a good laugh during the break in the football
 
If it's a Labour majority I will dance for week, given sufficient energising supplements - and I am 60.

I had this conversation with my Girlfriend last night, we both enthusiastically agreed that we'd be dancing up and down the streets all day and as we live in Bristol I doubt we would be alone.
 
I can't believe that Sun front page; it's like they're taking the piss out of their own readership.
 
Front page election stories: https://twitter.com/i/moments/872574562239643650

The Times: Tories take seven-point lead in final poll
Daily Mail: Let's reignite British spirit: Theresa's rallying cry as she warns Corbyn will tax your work, your garden, your home and your inheritance
i: X marks the spot: As Britain goes to the polls, eight leaders make one final appeal for your support
Daily Mirror: Lies, damned lies and Theresa May: Don't condemn Britain to five more years of Tory broken promises
The Guardian: Corbyn and May make last pitch for votes after bruising campaign
The Scotsman: 'Nicileaks' row ends bruising campaign
City A.M.: Decision day
Daily Express: Vote for May today
Metro: The battle for Britain: You have no right to moan for the next five years if you don't vote today!
The Daily Telegraph: 'Your country needs you' - Back me if you believe in Britain, says May in final appeal to nation (also: Corbyn would not be allowed into security services, so he's not fit for No10 (former head of MI6))
The Sun: Don't chuck Britain in the Cor-bin
The National: We say: Vote SNP for Scotland's right to choose its own future
Independent: Final reckoning: May on track for sweeping win
FT: May hopes bullish Brexit stance will salvage campaign and boost majority
 
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Tory wankfest.
 
'Corbyn will tax your work, your garden, your home, your inheritance, your dog, your cat, your nan etc.'
 
If it's a Labour majority I will dance for week, given sufficient energising supplements - and I am 60.

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Survation not in a rush in publishing their final poll.

Wouldn't surprise me if their poll has Tories ahead by 5+
 
Tories will get their majority, but I really do think our generation will feck them over in the long run. People won't forgive and forget the fact they took us out of Europe and fecked over the poor. Just give us ten years or so to get mobilised.
 
If it's a Labour majority, I will post on Redcafe about how surprised I am but also concerned as to how we're meant to avoid getting blamed for the effects of Brexit.
 
Tories will get their majority, but I really do think our generation will feck them over in the long run. People won't forgive and forget the fact they took us out of Europe and fecked over the poor. Just give us ten years or so to get mobilised.
They'll all be dead or on the Costa del Sol by then.
 
Tories will get their majority, but I really do think our generation will feck them over in the long run. People won't forgive and forget the fact they took us out of Europe and fecked over the poor. Just give us ten years or so to get mobilised.

...but we took us out of Europe, the Tories campaigned to stay in. Also, for about the last 40 years, the 'left' have been saying that young socialists are the future and that the old right-wing will eventually die out.

I'm not trying to defend the Conservatives here (this will be the first time I've not voted for them in four elections) - but I think after Corbyn is gone, large parts of the young and hip generation that got behind him will be pretty disenfranchised with politics. The world is lurching ever to the right these days, not the left. I still believe the answer lies somewhere in the center, but that doesn't seem to be an option amongst our parties right now.
 
If it's a Labour majority, I will reluctantly take my life-sized cardboard cutout of Peter Mandelson to the tip.
 
Looking back, i got my 2015s confused with my 2010s.

Even then it's a fair point - Osborne really, really felt like a number two to Cameron, almost as important in his role as the PM was in his own. Hammond doesn't feel any bigger than Boris or Rudd, and if anything has actually been less prevalent than those two.
 
If it's a Labour majority, I will reluctantly take my life-sized cardboard cutout of Peter Mandelson to the tip.

Will the gold statue of Blair be going on eBay?
 
If it's a Labour majority, I will post on Redcafe about how surprised I am but also concerned as to how we're meant to avoid getting blamed for the effects of Brexit.

That wouldn't be a problem at all, as i'd fully expect a Labour-led government to fudge up Brexit.
 
Prediction: Corbyn gets in, gives Scotland a referendum, Scotland votes Yes, and Corbyn declares Brexit null and void because it was United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland that voted to leave, and that nation no longer exists in the same form because it doesn't contain the whole of Great Britain.
 
That wouldn't be a problem at all, as i'd fully expect a Labour-led government to fudge up Brexit.

And isolating yourself by bitching and moaning about the very people you are going to be negotiating with and siding with a man who couldn't be any more antagonistic isn't fudging up negotiations before you even start?

They absolutely hate May and her cronies already and are going to be heading in with every intention to make it as painful as possible.

At least Corbyn will stand strong against Trump and build better relations with Merkel, Macron and Co which should lead to a smoother process.
 
Prediction: Corbyn gets in, gives Scotland a referendum, Scotland votes Yes, and Corbyn declares Brexit null and void because it was United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland that voted to leave, and that nation no longer exists in the same form because it doesn't not contain the whole of Great Britain.

I like this.
 
Prediction: Corbyn gets in, gives Scotland a referendum, Scotland votes Yes, and Corbyn declares Brexit null and void because it was United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland that voted to leave, and that nation no longer exists in the same form because it doesn't not contain the whole of Great Britain.
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Couple of interesting things from Jim Waterson (tweet it's linking in second one is the first one if that makes sense):

 
Even then it's a fair point - Osborne really, really felt like a number two to Cameron, almost as important in his role as the PM was in his own. Hammond doesn't feel any bigger than Boris or Rudd, and if anything has actually been less prevalent than those two.

This is part of the Tory problem right now, most people don't know who the feck Hammond is. Not only do they not have any heavy-hitters or characters on their front benches, but I just don't have a fecking clue who the generic cabinet are trying to represent.

For years, I, as a working man who voted blue, fought to dispell the myth that they were the party of big corporations with no scruples for workers, human rights or the environment. Cameron was probably the most centrist they've had in generations, they were the golden days for Tory social liberals- especially in coalition with the Lib Dems, he might not have been the peoples' working class champion but he was at least moderate by recent Conservative standards. May is generic, she is...magnolia, there's nothing about her but soundbites, no substance, no direction. The only times she's even got me got me remotely engaged in this election has been when she's talked about fox hunting, and that's only because the idea of a repeal absolutely infuriates me.

I'm off on a big tangent here :lol: all because you harked back to the days of Osborne and a Tory leadership that didn't seem to be made of wet tracing paper.

I can't vote Labour tomorrow, but the fact I'll be turning out and turning yellow, in my mind, means that this Conservative election campaign has been an utter disaster.
 
This is part of the Tory problem right now, most people don't know who the feck Hammond is. Not only do they not have any heavy-hitters or characters on their front benches, but I just don't have a fecking clue who the generic cabinet are trying to represent.

For years, I, as a working man who voted blue, fought to dispell the myth that they were the party of big corporations with no scruples for workers, human rights or the environment. Cameron was probably the most centrist they've had in generations, they were the golden days for Tory social liberals- especially in coalition with the Lib Dems, he might not have been the peoples' working class champion but he was at least moderate by recent Conservative standards. May is generic, she is...magnolia, there's nothing about her but soundbites, no substance, no direction. The only times she's even got me got me remotely engaged in this election has been when she's talked about fox hunting, and that's only because the idea of a repeal absolutely infuriates me.

I'm off on a big tangent here :lol: all because you harked back to the days of Osborne and a Tory leadership that didn't seem to be made of wet tracing paper.

I can't vote Labour tomorrow, but the fact I'll be turning out and turning yellow, in my mind, means that this Conservative election campaign has been an utter disaster.

To be fair, while he's a disaster Boris is a big name, and Rudd is basically an improved version of what May wants to be, even if she's not all that great herself. But aye, they don't have too many big names aside from the obvious joke figures like IDS, Gove etc.
 


Interesting comment. Wondering if Survation have realised their final poll is way off the mark compared to the rest and want to limit the damage if it turns out to be horribly wrong.
 


Interesting comment. Wondering if Survation have realised their final poll is way off the mark compared to the rest and want to limit the damage if it turns out horribly wrong.


"Err...lads, we're thinking this 40% figure for the Greens might be a bit high? Thoughts?"