General Election 2017 | Cabinet reshuffle: Hunt re-appointed Health Secretary for record third time

How do you intend to vote in the 2017 General Election if eligible?

  • Conservatives

    Votes: 80 14.5%
  • Labour

    Votes: 322 58.4%
  • Lib Dems

    Votes: 57 10.3%
  • Green

    Votes: 20 3.6%
  • SNP

    Votes: 13 2.4%
  • UKIP

    Votes: 29 5.3%
  • Independent

    Votes: 3 0.5%
  • Plaid Cymru

    Votes: 2 0.4%
  • Sinn Fein

    Votes: 11 2.0%
  • Other (UUP, DUP, BNP, and anyone else I have forgotten)

    Votes: 14 2.5%

  • Total voters
    551
  • Poll closed .
LOL! Apparently the Tories are leafletting Merseyside with newspaper quotes criticising Corbyn - from the S*n!
 
Based on a gathering of family and friends tonight, where the defining negatives for Corbyn were the economy/taxation, Brexit and national security. Interestingly, those rumours concerning the Land Value Tax do appear to have stuck in the memory with a few present.
 
https://twitter.com/BBCHelenaLee

Headlines from tomorrow's front pages:
The Mail on Sunday: May goes nuclear
The Sunday Times: Tories savage Corbyn's 'triple tax whammy'
The Independent: Starmer sets out Labour's plans for Brexit
The Sunday Telegraph: Labour's garden tax to hit 10m
Sunday Express: Five days to save Brexit
The Observer: Labour pledges VAT cut to help lower-income families

Few papers like Sunday Mirror and Sunday Sun missing.
 
Wasn't the labour garden tax all scaremongering by the rags? Or has a further development occurred?

Pure scaremongering, the idea of a land value tax has been around for a long time, as far as the manifesto goes all they've said is they will have a look at it
 
Wasn't the labour garden tax all scaremongering by the rags? Or has a further development occurred?

It is referred to in the manifesto as a possibility, however not a policy for the election. I don't think that fears regarding the LVT would be a key reason for anyone; a supplemental if minor contribution to Corbyn's image perhaps.
 
I want to say again, mostly so I can come back to this outlandish post if it actually transpires like the unctious Mensch and that Claude guy do on twitter, that if Labour pull this out of the bag it will be the perfect symmetrical end to the last 2 years. A shock result in a GE that was unnecessary precipitated by a shock in a Brexit ref that was unnecessary due to an election promise that was unnecessary. It'd be a hell of a period for the history books, some worst-of-all-time political decisions.
 
Sorry to be so callous, but campaigning will obviously have to stop briefly in light of what just happened. But the election is only 5 days, how long will it last this time? They surely can't stop for too long. Maybe restart on Tuesday?
 
Sorry to be so callous, but campaigning will obviously have to stop briefly in light of what just happened. But the election is only 5 days, how long will it last this time? They surely can't stop for too long. Maybe restart on Tuesday?

Depends how serious the incident turns out to be I suppose.
 
Opposing a blanket ban of zero hour contracts is no unreasonable though, irrespective of one's background. The reforms suggested in 2015 struck the right balance i think: they included an end to exclusivity clauses, which were an unreasonable practice from the get-go. A guaranteed minimum number of hours over a specified period is also another avenue.
 
Opposing a blanket ban of zero hour contracts is no unreasonable though, irrespective of one's background. The reforms suggested in 2015 struck the right balance i think: they included an end to exclusivity clauses, which were an unreasonable practice from the get-go. A guaranteed minimum number of hours over a specified period is also another avenue.
So not a zero hours contract then.
 
A ban on exclusivity contracts is a positive move, but are they actually a major thing? A lot of people I know/have known who do/have done zero hours contract work do so because they perhaps do other things on the side and work their zero hours job as an extra of sorts to keep them ticking over.
 
Explain - what puts him right at the bottom of your list?
He's a cretin. That's a rather short answer, but I'll explain more when I have time. Also, he's a very insubstantial politician. His ideology isn't the problem, he's just not well capable of selling it.
 
So not a zero hours contract then.

It would still be a casual and flexible form of employment, a choice which Corbyn intends to deny people entirely.


A ban on exclusivity contracts is a positive move, but are they actually a major thing? A lot of people I know/have known who do/have done zero hours contract work do so because they perhaps do other things on the side and work their zero hours job as an extra of sorts to keep them ticking over.

http://www.acas.org.uk/index.aspx?articleid=5624

The Government reformed the old system a little while ago, so by all rights they shouldn't exist any longer.
 
He's a cretin. That's a rather short answer, but I'll explain more when I have time. Also, he's a very insubstantial politician. His ideology isn't the problem, he's just not well capable of selling it.
Do explain more when you get the chance mate. I've moved the other way on him, significantly more impressed than I was 12 months ago.
 
On zero hours contracts:

I never know when or where I'll have work until the afternoon/night or sometimes only an hour or two before.
I have often turned up for work, having been sent by an agency, only to find there is no work - in which case I've wasted my bus/train fare and go home without any pay or compensation.
I can't make any definite plans for appointments because I don't know if I'll be working. If I do make an appointment - say with the council - I often have to cancel if I have work.
I cannot afford to turn down work - unless it's a double-booking.
I have no idea what my weekly/monthly income will be so don't sign up for phone contracts or any other form of regular payments - so end up paying over the odds for internet by the month and pay as you go phone credit, etc.
That'll do for now.
 
Ed is a Lib Dem candidate for parliament



How foolish do you have to be to not think this attack is of high importance to a PM and have the view that May shouldn't be briefed on it and kept up to date.
 
Explain - what puts him right at the bottom of your list?

Would be rather interested in hearing more on this too. I'm no fan of the centrist bunch but Umunna has actually often come across quite well to me - fairly well-spoken and has managed to often speak in more than platitudes on issues like Brexit etc. But, again, I could be wrong.
 
On zero hours contracts:

I never know when or where I'll have work until the afternoon/night or sometimes only an hour or two before.
I have often turned up for work, having been sent by an agency, only to find there is no work - in which case I've wasted my bus/train fare and go home without any pay or compensation.
I can't make any definite plans for appointments because I don't know if I'll be working. If I do make an appointment - say with the council - I often have to cancel if I have work.
I cannot afford to turn down work - unless it's a double-booking.
I have no idea what my weekly/monthly income will be so don't sign up for phone contracts or any other form of regular payments - so end up paying over the odds for internet by the month and pay as you go phone credit, etc.
That'll do for now.
Thanks for confirming everything I expected as consequences from zero hours contracts. Can you confirm my understanding that everybody who has a zero hours contract isn't considered unemployed in the statistics or am I wrong on this one? TIA
 
These polls have gone all over the place last few days.

UK shouldn't be that difficult to poll if done with a robust methodology and sample but this Labour momentum is making it tough it seems.
I don't agree.

Peter Kellner, ex you.gov, explained why they are all over the place.

According to him, the main reason is that different pollsters make different assumptions about the actual turnout of voters of the age of 18-24. (Perhaps it was 18-25 but you get the idea.)

Their preference of Labour to Tories is about 3:1 - that's what pollsters find across the polls. But similar to the Brexit referendum where a majority of them intended to vote for remain, voting intent in a poll doesn't automatically translate into showing up at the voting booth. Apparently there's not enough robust data on this age group to predict how many will show up, hence the uncertainty.

Obviously, models which assume young voters will have learned the lessons from the Brexit referendum, go out and vote find more favorable Labour outcomes than those models which assume they'll be as set back as at the referendum.
 
Despite being a break from election campaigns in light of the attacks last night, Theresa May has used her speech on the incident as Prime Minister to drill home some of her manifesto points and quite frankly has gone full on fascist. It sounds like a Tommy Robinson speech.

Absolute disgrace.
 
Despite being a break from election campaigns in light of the attacks last night, Theresa May has used her speech on the incident as Prime Minister to drill home some of her manifesto points and quite frankly has gone full on fascist. It sounds like a Tommy Robinson speech.

Absolute disgrace.
It is but, lets face it, she'll probably have gone back on at least half of it by this evening anyway.
 
UKIP saying they won't suspend national campaigning.
 
Despite being a break from election campaigns in light of the attacks last night, Theresa May has used her speech on the incident as Prime Minister to drill home some of her manifesto points and quite frankly has gone full on fascist. It sounds like a Tommy Robinson speech.

Absolute disgrace.

For those who didn't see it, Theresa basically reckons...

Foreign policy, having Wars & selling Arms - Carry on as normal

Internet - Must crack down on
 
For those who didn't see it, Theresa basically reckons...

Foreign policy, having Wars & selling Arms - Carry on as normal

Internet - Must crack down on

And took an underhand swipe at Corbyn saying there is "too much tolerance of terrorism in this country" continuing the absolute bollocks narrative that he is a terrorist sympathiser.
 
Well, Either ComRes or Survation are going to be getting less business this time next week


Feck.

I've no idea what happens with the types of hung parliaments described... Another election in three months?