General Election 2017 | Cabinet reshuffle: Hunt re-appointed Health Secretary for record third time

How do you intend to vote in the 2017 General Election if eligible?

  • Conservatives

    Votes: 80 14.5%
  • Labour

    Votes: 322 58.4%
  • Lib Dems

    Votes: 57 10.3%
  • Green

    Votes: 20 3.6%
  • SNP

    Votes: 13 2.4%
  • UKIP

    Votes: 29 5.3%
  • Independent

    Votes: 3 0.5%
  • Plaid Cymru

    Votes: 2 0.4%
  • Sinn Fein

    Votes: 11 2.0%
  • Other (UUP, DUP, BNP, and anyone else I have forgotten)

    Votes: 14 2.5%

  • Total voters
    551
  • Poll closed .
Leave.EU speaking for all of the UK, as represented by their proud Union Flag emoji, and simultaneously forgetting that Welsh is an official language of that country.
Ironic that the word "Welsh" derives from old English/Germanic for "Foreigner", given that they were here before the English/Germanic people migrated here.
 
What would happen if the Tories got a majority but she lost her seat? Would she still be PM?
There would have to be a leadership change I think. Oh god, it could be Boris...
 
This Walker bloke (Daily Mirror) is a strong remainer & must be basing his batshit idea on Maidenhead having voted remain & as he has previously tweeted, ''There is something about Theresa that even Sir Lynton can't fix. A great many traditional Tories simply don't like her and her hard Brexit.''

He's a mentalist.

edit - if he seriously reckons TM might lose her seat
 
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This Walker bloke (Daily Mirror) is a strong remainer & must be basing his batshit idea on Maidenhead having voted remain & as he has previously tweeted, ''There is something about Theresa that even Sir Lynton can't fix. A great many traditional Tories simply don't like her and her hard Brexit.''

He's a mentalist.
Which bit of that is wrong? She's abysmal. It won't be enough for her to lose her seat because as I've said before Tories might be cnuts but they're loyal cnuts, but it doesn't make it untrue.
 
Anybody else notice how quiet Rowling has got since Labour's "surge" in the polls? For someone who apparently wants a Labour government so much, it is quite strange.

Too busy moaning about Trump.
 
Which bit of that is wrong? She's abysmal. It won't be enough for her to lose her seat because as I've said before Tories might be cnuts but they're loyal cnuts, but it doesn't make it untrue.

OK, he's making mischief via a mentalist idea. I was just trying to fill in some background but didn't construct t'post very well.

What you said is also true & why it won't be happening, unfortunately.
 
2 more, admittedly fairly minor, reasons to hate the fecking Tories

source: Twitter

''I have no party allegiance, I just call it as I see it.'' - Julia Hartley-Brewer (one of our LBC friends)

''After this is over, major national re-education programme needed for young voters on money, tax, defence, life.'' - Iain Martin (Times journo)
 
2 more, admittedly fairly minor, reasons to hate the fecking Tories

source: Twitter

''I have no party allegiance, I just call it as I see it.'' - Julia Hartley-Brewer (one of our LBC friends)

''After this is over, major national re-education programme needed for young voters on money, tax, defence, life.'' - Iain Martin (Times journo)

Thankfully I think more people have shared this take on Martin's tweet than actually agreed with him

 
Well, Either ComRes or Survation are going to be getting less business this time next week

 
These polls have gone all over the place last few days.

UK shouldn't be that difficult to poll if done with a robust methodology and sample but this Labour momentum is making it tough it seems.
 
Okay, this would make me think the sample's very duff



EDIT - Okay by the looks of it this should actually be "heard about the QT", rather than watched. Still feels high but more believable.
 
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Survation have been pretty favourable too I think - saw a graphic somewhere, nothing like Yougov though.

Even if polls were out - you would expect the same swing movement to some extent. These latest two are completely opposite....
 
@Ubik Do you know if Survation have been one of the more kinder polls to Labour this election ?
They've been...variable. This is the Mail on Sunday (online) one, had a +11 at the beginning of the campaign when the Tories were getting 20+ leads with everyone else, then when other pollsters had closed it to around 15 points, they had a +12, then this is the next in the series.

My feeling is that their panel is more politically aware than it should be and is accounting for the big swing, but a feeling is all it is.

Meanwhile, ORB has an increased Tory lead of 9 (from 6) :lol:

Dan Hodges is getting a fair amount of mockery for saying they'd all be herding.
 
I think it's Yougov that's consistently given Labour more of a chance.
Ah cheers.
They've been...variable. This is the Mail on Sunday (online) one, had a +11 at the beginning of the campaign when the Tories were getting 20+ leads with everyone else, then when other pollsters had closed it to around 15 points, they had a +12, then this is the next in the series.

My feeling is that their panel is more politically aware than it should be and is accounting for the big swing, but a feeling is all it is.

Meanwhile, ORB has an increased Tory lead of 9 (from 6) :lol:

Dan Hodges is getting a fair amount of mockery for saying they'd all be herding.
Thanks. And yeah I've see this as well, poor fecker is never right.
 
Still a long way to go. And the polls traditionally underestimate the conservatives, sometimes substantially

But if I were a conservative I would be very worried for one reason - May leads on security and Brexit, Corbyn on basically everything else.

When people get to the ballot box and decide who is going to make their lives better the issues May leads on are the abstract 'perhaps she would be better for the country' not the personal 'this will make things better for me and my family'. If we are going to get a shock on Thursday this could be a key ingredient
 
DUP are barn burners not king makers. They are subservient right wingers and would gladly lick the boots of the Tories and get them back into government if they could.

I hope we can get the Tories out but hopefully without a coalition.

This is why @Cheesy must vote for Labour. Need them to get as many seats as possible.

If not Labour, wish the Greens take some seats off the Tories in the South.
 
YouGov +4, ICM +11...

Same story we've seen of late - youth turnout like 2015 = Tory majority of 70+ is likely; if as high as they're reporting themselves = squeaker.
 
This is why @Cheesy must vote for Labour. Need them to get as many seats as possible.

If not Labour, wish the Greens take some seats off the Tories in the South.
If you vote Labour in Scotland there is like a 90% chance you are helping the Tories.
 
YouGov +4, ICM +11...

Same story we've seen of late - youth turnout like 2015 = Tory majority of 70+ is likely; if as high as they're reporting themselves = squeaker.

and the problem with judging youth turnout is it's different people

e.g. 18-24s now is a ~33% different group of people than it was in 2015.
 
Still a long way to go. And the polls traditionally underestimate the conservatives, sometimes substantially

But if I were a conservative I would be very worried for one reason - May leads on security and Brexit, Corbyn on basically everything else.

When people get to the ballot box and decide who is going to make their lives better the issues May leads on are the abstract 'perhaps she would be better for the country' not the personal 'this will make things better for me and my family'. If we are going to get a shock on Thursday this could be a key ingredient
Latest YouGov trackers:

NHS - Lab +16
Immigration - Con +11
Law and Order - Con +15
Education - Lab +12
Tax - Con +2
Unemployment - Con +2
Economy - Con +16
Housing - Lab +13
Brexit - Con +19
Defence and security - Con +20
PM - Con +13

and the problem with judging youth turnout is it's different people

e.g. 18-24s now is a ~33% different group of people than it was in 2015.
But they've also historically overestimated how likely they are to vote, as well. It's the same in almost every election of late.

Maybe it'll be different this time. I hope so.