They can't accept Corbyn because he stands for something. If you stand for something, you also stand against something. Spoilt brat career politicians don't seem to understand that politics isn't played out in a textbook and you don't have to agree with every single policy to support a Party or candidate
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They can't accept Corbyn because he stands for something. If you stand for something, you also stand against something. Spoilt brat career politicians don't seem to understand that politics isn't played out in a textbook and you don't have to agree with every single policy to support a Party or candidate
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How quickly they fall back to 'But the IRA'. These are canvassers whose entire shtick is to get votes for their party and they offer absolutely nothing. Not even a lie about the Tories caring about the disabled children the lady works with.
The hidden story on this Trident issue, is that both Corbyn and Thornberry hope to degrade the present capability in this SDSR of theirs. They dodge the issue every time it is put to them.
He is just the sort of candidate who would appeal to a broad electorate following a May government, should that be the outcome next Thursday. Socially liberal, centre-left, not to Corbyn's level of business policy, composed speaker e.t.c.
Do you consider the headline in that tweet to be be accurate in its portrayal? The Independent did the same with the non u-turn, school breakfast u-turn.
But they're not even trying to specialise. Many students are attending university out of societal expectation, not because there is a need at that point in their lives. Now you allude to a worthy point as regards lifelong learning, but that will require a government-led shift in culture that no party is advocating AFAIK. The introduction of a 12-18 month multi-skills course, would probably be of greater practical benefit in the interim. There could then be top-ups in specific fields, which an individual might return to at a later point.
He is just the sort of candidate who would appeal to a broad electorate following a May government, should that be the outcome next Thursday. Socially liberal, centre-left, not to Corbyn's level of business policy, composed speaker e.t.c.
Do you consider the headline in that tweet to be be accurate in its portrayal? The Independent did the same with the non u-turn, school breakfast u-turn.
But they're not even trying to specialise. Many students are attending university out of societal expectation, not because there is a need at that point in their lives. Now you allude to a worthy point as regards lifelong learning, but that will require a government-led shift in culture that no party is advocating AFAIK. The introduction of a 12-18 month multi-skills course, would probably be of greater practical benefit in the interim. There could then be top-ups in specific fields, which an individual might return to at a later point.
The Lib Dem candidate in Amber Rudd's constituency told a hustings to vote for Labour, that's the spirit!
He's a complete lightweight. An utter pushover. I don't crave strong leaders, but Chuka simply ain't cut out for it.
Wait, so they're still costing it at 6.8p a child?
Hid away? He's been fighting leadership elections and a rebellious PLP. Corbyn has been in the media 24/7 just usually people attacking him.
Certainly the lesson should be you need to campaign from the off or in other words not make the media message about rebellions.
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S*n journo replied to it
and got a like from a Conservative councillor
The Guardian Morning Report -
May was also asked whether she was insulting the public’s intelligence “with stupid slogans”.
“I’ve been running a campaign which has been setting out the very clear choice the British people have and the very real challenges the government faces over the next five years,” she said. “It’s an important chance for our country, that choice is between a strong and stable leadership… or Jeremy Corbyn and a coalition of chaos.”
Granted, I watched only 2 minutes of this, clearly way too little to reflect the overall performance. However, I was baffled how poor May performed in those 2 minutes. A young woman asked whether she thinks she has any leverage in Brussels to negotiate a good deal for the UK.All May provided was:
- 'This is a deal not just for the UK but for 27 other countries.' (Wow - really? That's breaking news.)
- 'Only our strong and stable Conservative leadership can deliver a good deal for a stronger, fairer, truly global Britain that works for everyone.' (Yawn. No evidence whatsoever why and how.)
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There were at least three of them in the audience going on about it and thousands if not millions in the country who share the same mindset.
I'm just glad the woman got a word in about how ridiculous the talk of it is.
Some proper pissheads in there and the diversity is overwhelming.
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"I don't give a shit about the IRA." Perfect response to dirty propaganda.
She contains less charisma and individual thinking than a pork pie.The Guardian Morning Report -
May was also asked whether she was insulting the public’s intelligence “with stupid slogans”.
“I’ve been running a campaign which has been setting out the very clear choice the British people have and the very real challenges the government faces over the next five years,” she said. “It’s an important chance for our country, that choice is between a strong and stable leadership… or Jeremy Corbyn and a coalition of chaos.”
Can you imagine if we end up in a hung parliament situation, where the Tories are the largest party, but Labour and the SNP have enough seats to form an effective majority? The right-wing press would go absolutely insane... would be hilarious to see.
2005, with a dash of anti-Scot racism.
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I'd like to see that but get message "media could not be played"
Other than the fact the pound would probably fall off a cliff, it would be very interesting to see how it all worked itself out.
The English votes for English laws thing would be all you'd hear from the Tories, quicker than you can say 'constitutional crisis'.
In practical terms, it never was 7p per child. And as i recall, the Indy story led off with a headline implying that the entire policy had been scrapped.
Given the economic restraint present in the Conservative manifesto, i wouldn't have supposed there to be a need to contrive such stories.
The tories would be disarray so who cares? That's just the way it goes, the party out of power is always busy infighting and being shit. There would be plenty of "Why are the SNP voting on OUR GOD DAMN LAWS" from the daily mail, but the only difference to now would be the frequency they say it at.
They're so economically restrained they didn't cost the manifesto. What a crock of shit.
An English Parliament more like. It's an issue which Labour has a total blind spot on at present.
So economically restrained that despite all of their cuts they still can't reduce our National debt. They're either economically restrained or fecking terrible at economics.At least they're not Scottish! What more do you want?
I forget what the fudge was that the Tories brought in a couple of years ago... aren't Scottish MPs excluded from voting on English/Welsh bills, or there needs to be a majority of English/Welsh votes as well as an overall majority?
Anyone want to check? I guess Parliament could just use a standard majority to change the rules back anyway?
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Can't fecking believe they are going door to door talking about the i fecking r fecking a
Is this something youd like Nick?
They also brought in the fixed parliaments act, and scrapped it when it suited them. Labour and SNP would likely do the same.
Wasn't the Mail against Scottish Independence?
Theu haven't actually scrapped that. Its just misnamed
The mail's ideal Britain would be one that still colonised countries, of course they're against it.
So if they are still part of the Country then they should be able to vote on It's laws.
Well we certainly can't put the devolution genie back in the bottle, and the present system is a mess. An even distribution of powers across the home nations would, hopefully, solidify the United Kingdom too. I would also like to see the local referenda idea promoted, at the council/borough level. Labour talks about the 'regions' but rarely England, it is as if they are afraid of the mere concept.
Depends how you measure it. The deficit has come down, but low income growth is screwing it up a bit.
From the IFS.
Id be quite happy if you lot gave NI up..just say the feckin word pal!
The object would be one of prolonging the union, so i'll pass thanks. Should the citizens of Northern Ireland at some point vote to leave...well that's a different kettle of fish.
Demographic swing upcoming
Just watched the QT from last night. I don't agree with Corbyn about nukes but I'm furious that his campaign team haven't come up with a clear position for him on this issue which was obviously going to come up during the campaign. He looked weak and evasive on a question where he should have been able to look strong and principled. It was a sad reflection of the pre-election Corbyn that had so many of us worried. I really hope his team get on this ASAP and don't allow a moment like that to happen again before the vote.
But what would the uk parliament control? Should we cut it down from 650 to say, 100, if they sre going to have severly limited powers?