General Election 2017 | Cabinet reshuffle: Hunt re-appointed Health Secretary for record third time

How do you intend to vote in the 2017 General Election if eligible?

  • Conservatives

    Votes: 80 14.5%
  • Labour

    Votes: 322 58.4%
  • Lib Dems

    Votes: 57 10.3%
  • Green

    Votes: 20 3.6%
  • SNP

    Votes: 13 2.4%
  • UKIP

    Votes: 29 5.3%
  • Independent

    Votes: 3 0.5%
  • Plaid Cymru

    Votes: 2 0.4%
  • Sinn Fein

    Votes: 11 2.0%
  • Other (UUP, DUP, BNP, and anyone else I have forgotten)

    Votes: 14 2.5%

  • Total voters
    551
  • Poll closed .
BBC Radio 5live now discussing Captain Ska's "Liar liar" song and played a tiny bit of it.
 
Is this the same election they were investigated for before? or a different one?

I'm getting confused by the amount of elections & amount of fraud involving the Tories..

This was the one they didn't throw out, but its interesting for a couple of reasons.

First its not just the MP, its the woman from central office. She was also involved in the other campaigns that were under investigation because she ran the battle bus. So we are to believe that what she was doing potentially broke the law here but not anywhere else apparently.

Secondly, the guy who co-wrote mays manifesto and her chief advisor, Timothy, was involved in thanet a lot. Theres a famous video of Michael Crick chasing him up thanet high street during the campaign.
 


If there is a God he wants Corbyn to win

Far as I know all the investigations are about 2015, yeah.

I can't find it that exciting. They were a bit bent. I doubt anyone is shocked by that or liable to change their voting intention due to it.

Banana republic here we come! A bit bent - who cares. Disregard for the democratic process - not that exciting.
 
Far as I know all the investigations are about 2015, yeah.

I can't find it that exciting. They were a bit bent. I doubt anyone is shocked by that or liable to change their voting intention due to it.

It's not exciting, but certainly begins to show a pattern.

This was the one they didn't throw out, but its interesting for a couple of reasons.

First its not just the MP, its the woman from central office. She was also involved in the other campaigns that were under investigation because she ran the battle bus. So we are to believe that what she was doing potentially broke the law here but not anywhere else apparently.

Secondly, the guy who co-wrote mays manifesto and her chief advisor, Timothy, was involved in thanet a lot. Theres a famous video of Michael Crick chasing him up thanet high street during the campaign.

That begins to raise eyebrows for sure, I'll keep an eye on this.
 


Labour on 40 (40!)

We must have similar twitter feeds, was about to post that ya bastard haha.

How on Earth Labour is getting this figure despite Scotland voting SNP is beyond me.
 
What in the feck? Idiot. All he has to say is no.
And he should say no because he believes it, not just because it hurts his image if he doesn't. I'm sorry, I don't care what your religious beliefs tell you; thinking that being gay is a sin in this day and age is pathetic.
 
And he should say no because he believes it, not just because it hurts his image if he doesn't. I'm sorry, I don't care what your religious beliefs tell you; thinking that being gay is a sin in this day and age is pathetic.

Aye, it's very draconian. I'm all for liberals being able to have converging views on certain matters, even on ones wherein there's a generally accepted line of thought, but I'm going to struggle to take anyone seriously who is talking about concepts like 'sin'. It's all well and good for Farron to say he's pro-LGBT, but there's nothing more annoying than a religious type who says they 'accept,' homosexuality while sort of still semi-condemning it on the sidelines.
 


If there is a God he wants Corbyn to win

Banana republic here we come! A bit bent - who cares. Disregard for the democratic process - not that exciting.

ELI5 what it means that the NHS has a deficit.

Even with government funding and fees, they are nearly £1bn in the red each year?
 
As long as we get a hung parliament, I'm happy.
Hubris will be her undoing.
 
We must have similar twitter feeds, was about to post that ya bastard haha.

How on Earth Labour is getting this figure despite Scotland voting SNP is beyond me.

They've probably gained in Scotland a tad - remember some polls had them hitting around the 15 mark or so. My suspicion is they're reaching the mid-20s, and about even with the Tories now, while the SNP are between 40-45.

They've also made significant gains in Wales and are ahead again. Just need to hope the gains they're making are actually at the expense of the Tories, and not in safe seats they've already got wrapped up anyway.
 
Ill-informed me reckons the polls on Monday/Tuesday are the ones that'll tell us things. Will account for the debate and QT (my feeling is a fair few people might actually watch tonight, compared to the debate).
 
Is corbyn peaking at just the right time ?

This election sure is getting interesting. May exposes herself the long the campaign goes on more and more.
 
ELI5 what it means that the NHS has a deficit.

Even with government funding and fees, they are nearly £1bn in the red each year?

Yep. Apologies this is an image but I'm on my phone and the PDF isn't playing ball

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From here: https://www.kingsfund.org.uk/sites/...eficits_in_the_NHS_Kings_Fund_July_2016_1.pdf
 
That poll still results in a good majority for the Tories though :wenger:
 




Please let this man be our next PM


All of his hot air won't do the ice caps any favours, nor will pointless letters aid the amazon i imagine.


Yup, so they're under funding the NHS. Which I must admit is a genuine surprise for me... (sarcasm).

A few billion of which is the NHS' ongoing contribution to PFI debt. Moreover, Labour in 2015 offered one-third of the either the Tories or Lib Dems for healthcare spending. Even in this instance, Corbyn and his money tree fall short of meeting the current demands of the system.
 
Yeah it's sickening isn't it. Saw a leak today that shows Labour have only contacted 1 person in Moray, Angus Robertson's seat, so that the Tories have a free run at him. You can't vote Labour in Scotland with Dugdale in charge. It's really unbelievable.

Aye, every time I think of voting for Corbyn's Labour and then see something like that I'm put right off. Can understand prioritising seats; that's fair enough, but actively not campaigning so that the Tories beat out the SNP is poor stuff.

Wonder if the Tories and Lib Dems are taking the same approach in my area.
 
All of his hot air won't do the ice caps any favours, nor will pointless letters aid the amazon i imagine.

No, but it would demonstrate a spine. May's refusal to condemn Trump is telling. And her own record on climate change legislation is quite poor as well; would much rather have someone in charge who recognises it as an important issue and treats it as such.
 
Any nerdy sort know when the last time the main two shared 85% of the vote?

I find it hard to believe.
 
Aye, every time I think of voting for Corbyn's Labour and then see something like that I'm put right off. Can understand prioritising seats; that's fair enough, but actively not campaigning so that the Tories beat out the SNP is poor stuff.

Wonder if the Tories and Lib Dems are taking the same approach in my area.

Tories winning in scotland? :eek:
 
Any nerdy sort know when the last time the main two shared 85% of the vote?

I find it hard to believe.

1970 looks like the last time it was so dominated by two parties. Which is funny considering 2015 looked like it was ushering in a new era of multi-party politics to an extent.
 
Tories winning in scotland? :eek:

They're not going to win overall but they'll up their seat total, and there's a few that are very, very close. Robertson's seat is a big one. Perth, Stirling and other areas of Aberdeenshire are also targets. As are some areas in Edinburgh. In a lot of these places it'll be tight and it'd piss me off big time if Labour are preferring the idea of a Tory getting in to someone from the SNP, when the latter increases their chance of government.
 
I think Labour are still the riskier option, just.

The 7p per meal gaffe is insane (just asking someone to work the extra hour will cost 30-50p per meal if nothing else)...

But Labour want to heavily increase taxation, heavily increase spending, and nationalise things all over the place. Whether or not you support that idea, it's a huge change, with the potential to go very badly (for example, if increasing corporation tax and the highest tax rate moves jobs abroad).

On the other hand the Tories want to eject us from the Single Market faster than Theresa May can back-track on any cuts affecting Tory voters.

On the other hand, Labour's EU proposals are as clear as mud.

Live a little, go for the crazy radical left wing option. How do you know you won't like it if you don't try it?
 
This Mori one is bigger to me than the YouGov ones

 
This Mori one is bigger to me than the YouGov ones



It makes the YouGov one (and their somewhat novel methodology) a lot less of an outlier

10 point loss in two weeks. 5 point lead, one week to go.