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It must have an impact. Truth is it's unaffordable and she's actually right, unpalatable as it is.
The IFS is doing a press conference on the party's costings tomorrow at 9:30am tomorrow. Expect both parties using their research to bash each other!
They're still using 'strong and stable'! Ffs. Just got this release.
Conservative response to Education Policy Institute and IFS reports on school spending
Responding to the Education Policy Institute and IFS reports on school spending, Schools Minister Nick Gibb said:
“Jeremy Corbyn can’t deliver any of his promises on school spending – this analysis shows his numbers categorically do not add up and he is too much of a shambles to negotiate a Brexit deal that works for Britain.
“Only Theresa May can provide the strong and stable leadership our country needs through Brexit – so we protect the economy and are able to fund our schools to educate our children. We will increase the overall schools budget by £4 billion by 2022 – a real terms rise for every year of the Parliament compared to current spending plans – and ensure that no school has its budget cut as a result of a fair funding formula.”
Conservative response to Education Policy Institute and IFS reports on school spending
Responding to the Education Policy Institute and IFS reports on school spending, Schools Minister Nick Gibb said:
“Jeremy Corbyn can’t deliver any of his promises on school spending – this analysis shows his numbers categorically do not add up and he is too much of a shambles to negotiate a Brexit deal that works for Britain.
“Only Theresa May can provide the strong and stable leadership our country needs through Brexit – so we protect the economy and are able to fund our schools to educate our children. We will increase the overall schools budget by £4 billion by 2022 – a real terms rise for every year of the Parliament compared to current spending plans – and ensure that no school has its budget cut as a result of a fair funding formula.”
I've read that the Chancellor of the Exchequer is hamstrung by triple lock. It takes up so much of the money allotted to social care that everything else goes neglected. Now whether that's Tory scapegoating, and they wouldn't do anything anyway, is a different matter.
I'm against it myself, but I am in favour of Labour advocating it for this election. Hopefully it'll help avoid a landslide. And as Labour have no chance of winning, they can scrap it by the time 2022 comes around and blame it on the Tories.
Weak and Wobbly!
For nationalisation to be so popular is a positive for the left. It quite literally doesn't get any more left wing than nationalisation. With Labour it's mainly just the rail industry as far as I can tell. Also NHS contracts.
Probably been posted already but I am absolutely astounded by this.
"We never thought this election was going to be a walk in the park."
I think they also might to potential nationalise water and royal mail as well. But yeah even if the most likely outcome happens and Tories win in June, there's some really positives to be taken.
It would take £100m+ to nationalise water, unless you wanted to do it without compensation, and turn us into the next Zimbabwe.
That does beg the question of how Thatcher squandered and wasted the privatisation revenues in the first place of course, along with the north sea oil revenues, the housing sales, and anything else that wasn't screwed down, but unfortunately all that's gone, we are where we are.
That does beg the question of how Thatcher squandered and wasted the privatisation revenues in the first place of course, along with the north sea oil revenues, the housing sales, and anything else that wasn't screwed down, but unfortunately all that's gone, we are where we are.
Odd thing is that (per latest YouGov) the over 65 number is barely moving at all, it's the 25-49 mark that seems to be moving the most. Tories still lead among pensioners by 67-19.
Also in the latest YouGov are some reasons why I don't think it's a great idea for Labour to start hitting Tories on terror related stuff. Internment of people suspected of extremist sympathies is backed 41-36. The death penalty for people murdering in the name of terror is backed 56-30. On a slightly less draconian but probably more relevant question given the existence of the snooper's charter - forcing social media companies to provide government with a backdoor to bypass encryption is backed 68-18. Tories are also backed on defence and security by 41-18, Brexit by 39-17, law and order 38-21, asylum and immigration 31-19. On personal levels, May is trusted on terrorism 55-30, Corbyn is 33-51. Rudd is bad at 24-40, Abbott is woeful at 9-62. Labour's big leads are on the NHS, education and housing. Go hopeful on those for the last fortnight.
It's not odd at all, as Jippy says dropping the triple lock is obviously the right thing to do. Any of the old codgers that don't see that probably don't know what it's all about anyway.
I agree that that's the right policy (though the double lock doesn't really save much either tbh), but dropping it was even less popular among pensioners than the dementia tax.
As Portillo said today, the dementia tax and it's variations is all about inheritance. Unpopular with pensioners of course, and their children even more so.
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Corbyn will give a speech tomorrow about uk foreign policy and police cuts. Could be risky as no one wants to use the horrible events of a few days ago especially if it's seen as using for political gain but if the current UK policy is blow up countries aboard thus creating extremism hot spots and at the same time cutting policing so it's harder to catch extremists then it would be absurd to not call it out.
Although he's making up a lot of leads, he's got nothing to lose at this point. While it could be risky, if he handles well, could be a real positive impact. Wish him to do well
The comeback is on! G'wan Jezza!
This strikes me as a really bad idea.
For the first time since I was old enough to vote, I won't be voting conservative. Firstly the voting record of our conservative mp is very interesting, he has voted repeatedly in ways that completely contradict the claims and promises made in his last election campaign, add this to the snoopers charter, the fox hunting and the sneaky dropping of support for the ban on importing ivory, I'm done.
I just can't be bothered to deal with being pestered by the hordes of idealistic socialists on Facebook etc. if I announced I will vote Conservative.
It's about time a politician stood up and told the truth about our reckless foreign policy.
Sadly however, I don't think it will resonate well. I hope I'm wrong.
I'm not sure myself if it's a good idea but it's absurd that this Tory government disastrous foreign policy and policing cuts can get a free pass because of the potential of not resonating well.
Saw this a few days ago. fecking disgraceful.
On the fox-hunting issue, why would our Government even consider debating that yet again? It's done, it's banned and we have far more pressing things to talk about.
They're trying to appeal to a certain demographic: gits.
I'm pretty confident the Mail will have a field day with it. "Corbyn blames OUR troops".
Its a mistake people are in an emotive state and want blood. They don't want logic and anything that justifies evil.
He needs to come out strong against terrorism first and a small part of the message should be a review of foreign policy to prevent kicking the bees nest.
"We never thought this election was going to be a walk in the park."
To Echo this tweet, as I've previously mentioned and as a bit of an update, my Mum and her motley Momentum crew are hitting marginal's regularly and phone banking, door knocking, dropping leaflets. The responses have been overwhelmingly positive in areas they would expect some hostility too.
Of course I only know what she tells me and I've never so much as seen a Tory poster in my entire life in Halton so, I/we do live in a red bubble.
I don't for the life of me understand why Corbyn would go down that route. He knows how controversial linking in any small way terrorism with foreign policy, even if it's true. I don't get why he'd look at the polls, that frankly are narrowing, and decide it's time to say something he knows is going to scare the horses. Just absolutely senseless.
The narrative of Corbyn's two notable interventions so far since the calamity of the Tory manifesto launch have both been a complete car crash.
It seems almost suicidal. Like he saw the Tories were on the ropes, panicked and thought he best punch a cute dog in the face just in case he ends up winning.
Maybe it's just me but surely by now at this stage of his leadership with the experience of/with the media that he should have, these landmines shouldn't be difficult to avoid. Surely one person when that speech was being written thought the bit where even there's a slight linking of foreign policy with terrorism would be, this of all weeks, a no-go area. But no.
The narrative of Corbyn's two notable interventions so far since the calamity of the Tory manifesto launch have both been a complete car crash.
It seems almost suicidal. Like he saw the Tories were on the ropes, panicked and thought he best punch a cute dog in the face just in case he ends up winning.
Maybe it's just me but surely by now at this stage of his leadership with the experience of/with the media that he should have, these landmines shouldn't be difficult to avoid. Surely one person when that speech was being written thought the bit where even there's a slight linking of foreign policy with terrorism would be, this of all weeks, a no-go area. But no.
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Also looking even more suspect that the election was suspended for so long for Tory party benefit. Allowing May to attend the G7 meeting and looking 'statesmanlike' with the other world leaders, meanwhile effectively preventing other parties from campaigning, using the Manchester bombing as an excuse. If the Tories weren't having a campaign akin to a Chuckle Brother's sketch where they try to bring in a large tray of filled wine-glasses into a restaurant, then the announcement of "We carry on as normal", with no suspended campaign at all, would have been forthcoming from the steps of Number 10.
Corbyn will say whatever he thinks is important to say, we all know that it isn't a surprise.
Just reading the speech and its on point, doesn't mean it will go down well though. Tories will be out in numbers today to try and create a storm against him.
It's weird isn't it. I live in an conservative stronghold and yet everywhere I go I see Labour signs in windows with the odd lib dem for good measure. Can't recall seeing as single Tory one. Guess they must be all the blank ones.
Key message from the IFS assessments seems to be:
- Labour underfunded by 9bn
- Tories more Austerity and their tax plans help higher rate more than basic
The attacks from the Tories will be something along the lines of "it's shocking that Corbyn would try and politicize such a tragedy...only a strong and stable government under May will stop these tragedies from happening."
No one thinks that.. we just hope that
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"We never thought this election was going to be a walk in the park."
But also, what a twat…
His speech is going to let the cat out of the bag as regards the ''carrying on as normal'' & ''we will not be deterred'' narrative & so on isn't it?
I would imagine there's a lot of very angry people out there who might feel they've been prevented from speaking out so far after the concert bombing.
I would imagine there's a lot of very angry people out there who might feel they've been prevented from speaking out so far after the concert bombing.
To be fair they have done, i was just reading the first summary.
There's a bit of an odd one around the triple lock as within the analysis of Labours pledge is that it'll cost upto 50bn in 50 years time. I mean its fair analysis but its not fair to put that cost against Labours proposal.
Corbyn's interview with Andrew Neil is on BBC One tonight.