Just put it on. Sky Channel 977 for those of you in england
General Election 2017 | Cabinet reshuffle: Hunt re-appointed Health Secretary for record third time
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Rape clause Ruth is having a mare here.
This is pretty appalling from Davidson. Asked about immigration and starts discussing cuts. She's having to defend stuff she doesn't agree with and it's showing.
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Labour and Green doing well here, snp and tory slanging match is damaging both
I think Sturgeon's coming out fairly well. She's highlighting the hypocrisy of Davidson while still managing to portray herself as the strongest figure for Scotland. The slagging match is getting quite heated but she's fared better...and has just acknowledged it's Davidson who discusses independence more than anyone else.
Dugdale's done alright so far. I really like Harvie too, fantastic Green politician, but his appearance here is probably a bit pointless considering the party's only standing in about three areas.
Sturgeon is a true leader
fecking hell, Davidson pointing to the camera telling people to stop the SNP as if they're ready to launch a full-scale invasion of Poland.
I agree as i wrote that post sturgeon started coming in to her own. Agree on Harvie too.
The face rape clause Ruth was pulling as they cut to them all sat on the chairs was unfortunate.
Dugdale with an uppercut on Sturgeon there.
Dugdale going in strongly there, doing well here.
Sturgeon looking a bit weaker regarding education here.
Sturgeon too honest here - should just blame the tories
Doesn't work when it's a devolved issue. Not really any way out of that one.
I thought she started strongly by taking responsability but left herself too open for attack. Slightly damaging to her.
The whole issue of discussing devolved policy is a tricky one: on the one hand not doing so essentially allows Sturgeon to go on the attack without having to defend her own record, but at the same time discussing Scottish education has feck all to do with the UK general election. The current discussion isn't particularly relevant to June 8th.
No they should be talking about the role of Scotland in Brexit really. imo
Yeah, but I'd rather they didn't linger on Brexit for too long. It's good to actually discuss some policy on issues like education...but again the problem is it's not really relevant. Patrick Harvie's comments were very good though.
Both my parents are screaming at the tv (both nhs workers) at sturgeon. They are not impressed.
Why is the nurse banging on to Sturgeon but ignoring the Jeremy Hunt part, the feck?
To be fair healthcare's devolved to us - buck ultimately stops with the SNP on that one up here.
Nice of the moderater to cut off half the question there, rape clause ruth was very grateful
Yeah I know, but it's quite clear the NHS up here is running better than down south, you can't complain about the better performing version.
Wow so that nurse is wife of a Tory councillor, supposedly been on QT before also.
We can expect to see more questioning along these lines i think. it's an attack line given further potency thanks to Corbyn himself too; for if his own words weren't controversial enough, he has Andrew Murray on his campaign staff so i understand.
'A terrorist sympathiser as your Prime Minister', coming to a billboard near you.
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Why on earth wouldn't he denounce the IRA? Bizzare.
He did. There's an actual quote of the exchange where he denounces them.
Because he's not quite as nice as people like to make out. His beloved Stop the War, of which Andrew Murray was Chair, have previously come in support for terrorists and mass murderers.
With (continuing to arm Saudi Arabia doesn't count) in tiny text I assume?
Like Blair and Thatcher?
People who killed British citizens, British military personnel, not to mention thousands of Iraqi civilians. This is supposed to be honourable, peace loving Jeremy, no?
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Yeah, but Blair killed far more of all three groups (as the first two intersect) than any of the terrorists you could care to name.
The point is that Corbyn's peace credentials are as good as any politician currently in mainstream politics. He denounces all violence, which isn't something you're likely to get from the other side. The motto there is that "our" violence is justified, "theirs" is terrorism. Corbyn takes the viewpoint that all violence is terrorism by different means, but that dialogue is better than war. His record on these issues (and these issues only, to be honest) is close to impeccable as far as I can see.
Blimey, it didn't take much for the definition of terrorism to get awfully narrow. Luckily its victims still doesn't include the people of Yemen so you can happily vote for the definitely not terrorist sympathising Tories.
The problem is most people aren't thinking like the Canary wants them to and being seen to apparently refuse to condemn the IRA looks really, really, really fecking bad.
That's not even debatable. People aren't going to look at that and go "oh well, Blair killed more and I guess in the overall scheme of things thinking about it logically....." they're going to see the man who wants to be PM having a hard time when asked to condemn the IRA. You'd have to be wearing glasses tinted with some pretty potent roses to think that looks anything but absolutely terrible.
That's not even debatable. People aren't going to look at that and go "oh well, Blair killed more and I guess in the overall scheme of things thinking about it logically....." they're going to see the man who wants to be PM having a hard time when asked to condemn the IRA. You'd have to be wearing glasses tinted with some pretty potent roses to think that looks anything but absolutely terrible.
Oh god you're one of those people that actually eats up these Telegraph articles. They're getting more ridiculous by the day. I was on the comment section of their Facebook page and there is numerous Conservatives on there commenting that they wish the Telegraph wasn't resorting to this pathetic character assassination as it's so transparent it's getting embarrassing for them. They're following the same model as the right wing news corps in America such as InfoWars and Brietbart who used fabricated or tenuous links to implicate Clinton in the most preposterous scandals.
Ask yourself why they're resorting to these tactics.
Corbyn did denounce them in the show you are talking about. It is a straight up lie that he did not.
He also denounced the UDA, something no tory has ever done. They, in case you are to young to remember, carried out the worst single bombing of the entire troubles.
Good to see you've really looked into the issue. No comparison to a deadly disease or people with learning difficulties this time though, are you going soft on Corbyn?
Again how many people sitting at home do you think will see Corbyn's comments and think "Well the Tories haven't condemned the UDA!"
This is what I mean when I talk about the goldfish bowl the left seem to live in nowadays. You might be perfectly valid to raise that as an issue/rebuttal but there isn't a single floating voter who'll think about that. This is Corbyn's problem, his electoral fate doesn't depend on people happy to go to great lengths to support him.