DenisIrwin
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Shows the selfishness of him sticking on as leader.
Shows the selfishness of him sticking on as leader.
Oh you're very much mistaken. Your mental gymnastics are hilarious.At least someone can laugh at Labour these days.
Oh you're very much mistaken. Your mental gymnastics are hilarious.
Let me guess, the only possible solution is for him to stand down and one of the great welfare abstainers come in? Where has all this 'we' shit come from as well?So even though the public made it clear they wouldn't vote for him from day 1 of his leadership, we stick with him anyway, then blame the public for doing what they said they would do? Incredible hubris.
Sorry, but Corbyn lost that moral high ground when he whipped his party to support Article 50.
"We" as in Labour.
Prime Minister - Jeremy Corbyn
Chancellor of the Exchquer - John McDonnell
Home Secretary - Diane Abbott
Foreign Secretary - Emily Thornberry.
There's the Conservative manifesto.....
My wife is a nurse. Brother in law a doctor.
They think as wonderful as the NHS is...and it is, it's run by idiots, gravy trainers and excuse machines. But the procurement gets them enraged.
Ask yourself this...why does a PACKET of Ibuprofen cost 40p at Tesco's yet 70p PER PILL for the NHS?
Times this shit/non negotiation by a zillion, and add in a few rip-off MRI's machines and their insanely made-up Walt Disney running costs and all of a sudden things become very clear indeed.
There was an end to that particular stick?I see you've done that thing again where you grab the wrong end of the stick and just run with it.
Who exactly would you outsource it to?I do procurement for a living, and outsourcing of procurement. I have been slated massively on here for even suggesting that there could be some savings for outsourcing this non core activity. The NHS are really shit at buying commodity products and services, but let's not let that get in the way of getting a better bang for the taxpayer's buck.
Similar things could (should) be applied to military procurement as well...I do procurement for a living, and outsourcing of procurement. I have been slated massively on here for even suggesting that there could be some savings for outsourcing this non core activity. The NHS are really shit at buying commodity products and services, but let's not let that get in the way of getting a better bang for the taxpayer's buck.
ProfessionalsWho exactly would you outsource it to?
There was an end to that particular stick?
Who exactly would you outsource it to?
All of the above. Just seems ripe for brown envelope corruption.Ambiguous question, do you mean which spend categories, or which business units you'd outsource the spend for?
All of the above. Just seems ripe for brown envelope corruption.
All of the above. Just seems ripe for brown envelope corruption.
Just let me know the company you're outsourcing to just before the deal goes through and I promise not to buy shares just before the price goes up.ok, dobba you seem to accept that you are ready for corruption. So what bribes do you need?
Just let me know the company you're outsourcing to just before the deal goes through and I promise not to buy shares just before the price goes up.
They hadn't yet seized the memes of production.So that's why he lost. Not enough likes.
Sorry to hear that mate, my mum has MS and whilst she is still mostly mobile at the moment, the day she wont be isnt that far off. Like your Dad she is very proud, and I can see her not asking for help a mile away.I looked after my Dad when he had Alzheimer's. He was a very proud man. He would lie in a wet bed rather than call out. It was causing him bad skin problems. I took to sleeping on the floor beside him and assured him I was there to help. He walked so slow and was so unable to control his bladder that he often pissed himself enroute to the loo. He often cried when it happened. So fecking sad.
What the feck are you on about? He's been voted for as leader twice, overwhelmingly. He's getting massive crowds everywhere he goes. Has he not visited your planet yet, is that your beef?So even though the public made it clear they wouldn't vote for him from day 1 of his leadership, we stick with him anyway, then blame the public for doing what they said they would do? Incredible hubris.
So presumably you expect him to win on June 8th, and will alter your opinion if he's beaten?What the feck are you on about? He's been voted for as leader twice, overwhelmingly. He's getting massive crowds everywhere he goes. Has he not visited your planet yet, is that your beef?
Corbyn isn't a nurse doing 12 hour days at that age though, is he?what an idiot... though no doubt his echo chamber of followers will say the right wing media stitched him up (and she works for the guardian)
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...party-labour-polling-figures-suggest-they-are
That confirms what I’d expect. Labour under Corbyn attracts young middle class people, who want to play revolution, while alienating its core constituencies.
Ahh nvm. Poor old Corbyn is just missunderstood. *It is all the media* *If people would only understand...* *turkeys voting for Christmas* *They hate poor people* *Selfish idiots* *Racists*
Did i forget something?
At least someone can laugh at Labour these days.
Case in point that any Labour government in doesn't means a end to the poorest in society getting attacked.Oh you're also grabbing the wrong end of that stick too, but you're just sprinting way off into the sunset with it.
I'm not saying I care but won't vote Labour "because Corbyn". Im saying the damn electorate is saying that. Since day one the public has made it clear that they won't vote for Corbyn, but Labour just digs its heels in and says "well we're not going to change, so you guys have to". Sadly, they don't need to change, they just vote elsewhere.
You don't need to tell me about the Tories will do. I run a homeless charity, I see the real world impact every day of what they do. The disappearing mental health services, the missing drug services, the impact of the bedroom tax, the LHA caps for under 35s, the rent reductions, the shitty universal credit roll outs, the sale of social housing. The last 7 years of Tory austerity has just been brutal as they slash away at what we spent 13 years building. Levels of homelessness collapsed under New Labour, now its heading right back up again. We're turning away people everyday with no money in their pockets & nowhere to go because we only have 50 rooms and our waiting list is 50 long.
It is crucial, that we stop this. Absolutely essential. There is only one way to stop it, which is a Labour Government. But you know what, in our electoral system, that requires getting more votes than the other guys, believe it or not. Which means putting someone up who's at least as popular than they are.
Which is why Labour putting up someone like Corbyn is a total fecking disgrace. The public made it clear as crystal from day one they wouldn't vote for him. We still elected him as leader a second time, put him up in a General Election anyway, and when he loses, we'll blame the electorate to make ourselves feel better. "Vote for someone you hate or you're scum". I guess it has a certain ring to it.
And now Labour is staring down the barrel of a defeat so hard that winning the next election will be a struggle too. On the 8th of June we're facing a likely decade of Tory Government, because Labour went into battle with leader so bad he was our opponent's biggest weapon.
But, hey, at least he voted against the Welfare Rights Bill right? What a legend.
How many hours a day do you think a pm does?Corbyn isn't a nurse doing 12 hour days at that age though, is he?
And you claim that HE is the idiot.
My wife is a nurse. Brother in law a doctor.
They think as wonderful as the NHS is...and it is, it's run by idiots, gravy trainers and excuse machines. But the procurement gets them enraged.
Ask yourself this...why does a PACKET of Ibuprofen cost 40p at Tesco's yet 70p PER PILL for the NHS?
Times this shit/non negotiation by a zillion, and add in a few rip-off MRI's machines and their insanely made-up Walt Disney running costs and all of a sudden things become very clear indeed.
Is he holding a needle about he's about to press into someones vein though? Or preparing the right concentration of a potentially deadly chemical to give to a patient?How many hours a day do you think a pm does?
Better a pure manifesto we never implement than a compromise one we do huh? How noble.
Anyone.
Whatever you say. I'll just leave this here.
Possibly someone a bit more charismatic than that lot might have. But I'd also argue that someone more popular than Corbyn could win with his manifesto also. It doesn't really matter too much to many people anymore, the average person goes to the booth and thinks "that May lady seems sensible and nice" or "that Corbyn is a right ruffian and is clueless". All about what the papers are telling them.Are we really back to arguing that an Eagle, Owen Smith, or Liz Kenndal Labour with a 'centre' manifesto would have swept the election?