It does say something that he has lower approval ratings than a man who has repeatedly lied about being at Hillsborough. He's just so fecking dismal with the mainstream media.
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another centrist.
The bit about him not admitting, that he is wealthy is great.
1: Blame "the rich".
2: Earn ~135k/y. "I am adequately paid".
3: "No I am not wealthy, because where I put the money"
Meh, at least he's not married to Woody Allen:
I think you are missing two key points, in regards to that specific policy. First, is the certainty over job security, and removing that psychological barrier when dealing with one's employer. Second, is that caring for a relative can be a stop-start type of circumstance, calling for a short-medium term absences. You shouldn't have to take holiday or fear for your job prospects when such situations arise.
Similarly, this applies to bereavement related leave.
Sure, they could go further, however it's an advance from the status quo.
indeed - though if that's his fault or the mainstream medias seems to depend on if your in / out of the corbynista echo chamber
Not admitting that earning 60+k for the last 34 years makes you wealthy is daft, most can only dream of that kind of wage, but I sort of get why Corbyn doesn't give the obvious answers sometimes given the negative slant that gets stuck on everything he says. If he said 'Yes I'm wealthy' the tabloids would probably splash "I'M LOADED" BOASTS HYPOCRITE CORBYN across the front pages.
Ed Miliband was probably too left wing for him at the time, to be fair. On your Mandelson point, I'm keen to find out what this cut off point for views no longer being relevant is, can I hazard a guess that it's just before any reference you can make to the IRA?
Arthur Atkinson is looking good for his age. Has he found his washboard yet?
Even if it requires people like yourself to invent them.
Well, other people reading can make their own minds up of course, but I personally think that being a member of the Young Communist League at 20 years old is probably less of an indication on your fully formed political views than being a member of the Communist Party of Britain for four decades into your 50s. Maybe he'll declare he's intensely relaxed about the filthy rich and prove me wrong.
Have you any thoughts on the new immigration controls policy yet, or will you just continue ignoring it?
he must be - afterall he is working for one isnt he? (how many own goals will corbyn score this election?)
That Brexit means the end of FOM? Not ideal but welcome to the shit show that is Cameron's legacy. Being the EU party is working so well for the Lib Dems it's hard to look at their figures and not think what could have been.
I don't personally think Labour can have a platform other than ending free movement. My main reason for voting remain was to keep it but we lost and we lost primarily because more people wanted to end free movement.
No, that choosing to leave the single market means the end of freedom of movement.
Good to know that you're content with a policy decision aimed at placating anti-immigration sentiment. I suppose they won't put it on a mug though and that's the main thing.
Honestly, I think this is accepting the will of the people and the mugs were pandering to the right.
They're both pandering to the right, the main difference is that this policy actually will put controls on immigration. If we had a referendum on the death penalty and people wanted to bring it back (and I'm pretty sure they would), I don't think we'd be acquiescing to the will of the people so much.
I would say that the received wisdom has pointed towards an end to FoM ever since May became leader. This being the case, Labour really ought to have the bones of an immigration policy to air to the public. This should include the costs of visas in particular, as EU citizens will now fall into what was formerly non-EU. The ease of admittance is entirely up to them, and in doing so they can appear more realistic than the Lib Dems.
spouces etc as well - income thresholds - in fairness I think all parties should make more of an effort in this respect
I don't know whether they would or not. Pretty sure that, myself, I'd still be in the 'despairing but accepting' camp, though.
Yes because when you're content with something you label it 'not ideal'. I've always found it odd that you rarely mention those existing at a time the party were also promising to be tougher than the Tories on welfare and that they were not the party for people out of work - almost as if that context said more about the party than the mug did.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...t-threshold-visa-immigration-uk-a7729846.html
Keep up.
Agreed.
Given the rate of increase to net immigration in such a relatively short period of time, we likely have more flexibility than some suppose. Fare more important, in my view, is reform the existing entry procedure. For not only are the financial demands significant, but the emotional stress of the whole process also.
Unfortunate.
It's just that you've brought up the mug so often lately as an example of the moral decay of Ed Miliband that I thought it might provoke a slightly sterner response than "not ideal" when they go further this time round.
I agree that that was terrible rhetoric from Reeves, yet again making a meh policy appear draconian (by the looks of it, it was for the compulsory jobs guarantee policy). But I again note that the draft manifesto didn't contain much in the way of reversing the cuts to benefits beyond vague "review" promises, instead prioritising stuff like the triple lock and tuition fees. For someone that won the leadership in large part because of his unwillingness to budge on that issue, I'm surprised his supporters aren't more concerned. Maybe the final copy will have more.
But would spouses automatically get a right to work - are they still subject to life in the UK tests and or English language tests...
Me and my wife had a hellish time even though we both earned well over the pescribed amounts just because of the impracticality and in flexibility in the system...
So whilst I cautiously welcome the removal of the income thresholds it is only part of a bigger picture and I think all parties could do a better job of explaining their proposals - particularly in light of the number of UK citizens who will be in a relationship with an EU citizen and as such facing uncertainty.
And here's May
With her push on workers' rights is she going to protect my right to work in 27 other EU countries?
The Tories have continually missed their deficit reduction targets which means they have continually been responsible for "uncosted spending". Doesn't really matter when you have the press on your side though.
Only if you make her Empress of Europe.
I am not sure if yu are being wilfully ignorant for the sake of criticism, or just lack the relevant experience of life's challenges.
Jebus, no wonder she's shying away from non scripted debates, she's such a robotic drone its not even funny.
Woman mentions learning disabilities, and The Teresatron-3000 goes off on some scripted monologue on mental health
She's probably also still running on Windows XP.
Good article in the FT on this today.
Says that any party arguing that they're the "voice of the 48%" is sadly misguided, as that group doesn't actually exist. There's the 52% Brexiteers, who nearly all still hold their views, 22% 'Hard Leavers' who want Brexit to be stopped, and 23% 'ReLeavers' who voted Remain but now think the government has a duty to leave. The Tories are polling 60% in the two leave camps, while the Greens, SNP, Lib Dems and metropolitan Labour MPs are all targeting just that 22% of the electorate. It's going to be a landslide and I don't think there's anything the 'left' can do to stop it.
Shouldn't be a surprise but what a shame. I'm still shocked how little resistance there's been to Brexit in the two main parties, who both officially backed remain. The initial fear of looking anti-democratic looks a terrible mistake to me - May set the narrative after Brexit while the rest of the country was looking for reassurance as to what would be coming next. But it was a blank canvas to project onto - any senior political figure could have jumped in there first to argue a convincing interpretation of the vote and what should follow it. No-one did...
Bang on.
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...party-labour-polling-figures-suggest-they-are
That confirms what I’d expect. Labour under Corbyn attracts young middle class people, who want to play revolution, while alienating its core constituencies.
Ahh nvm. Poor old Corbyn is just missunderstood. *It is all the media* *If people would only understand...* *turkeys voting for Christmas* *They hate poor people* *Selfish idiots* *Racists*
Did i forget something?
That confirms what I’d expect. Labour under Corbyn attracts young middle class people, who want to play revolution, while alienating its core constituencies.
Ahh nvm. Poor old Corbyn is just missunderstood. *It is all the media* *If people would only understand...* *turkeys voting for Christmas* *They hate poor people* *Selfish idiots* *Racists*
Did i forget something?
*Awaits responses with anecdotal evidence*
Exactly what policies in the manifesto are alienating the working classes?
It's an interesting story that's repeated across most polls, class based voting almost vanishing: this week's YouGov - ABC1s Tory 49 Labour 30, C2DEs Tory 49 Labour 32. Contrast with this time in 2015 (polls were out 3 points for Labour and 3 for Tory so adjust accordingly, but still) - ABC1s Tory 38 Labour 30, C2DEs Tory 28 Labour 38.
its not the policies... its the incompetent fekwhit they are alienated by
Leaving the single market and then increasing corporation and income tax for one.
That is not even shooting yourself in the foot. Its more like chopping your foot off putting it on a target and then shooting it.
It's not all about policy - it's just as much both parties' presentation, public relations and handling of the mainstream media.
If Corbyn's party wants to declare war on the media that's fine, but this is the result. Never go full Trump...
This is such a good example of those frothing at the mouth to criticise Corbyn
*Corbyn agrees with nurse that working til 68 for a nurse is too late shocker*. I can see the headlines "Corbyn says 68 year olds aren't capable""First the death tax, now he's coming for your job"
You're voting for Tim Farron's Lib Dems