I’d bet my mortgage he wasn’t.
Gary Neville
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I’d bet my mortgage he wasn’t.
Aye. The die hard united fan was devastated we equalised
Aye, you’re probably right, but they wouldn’t make those comments about any other team in the league. And I get that we’re crap and should be doing much better, but I’m fed-up listening to it from a broadcaster that should at least be attempting to be balanced in their comments.You mean just like everyone on this forum
Ummm...what?
It’s weird listening to a game where he commentates on us. The seasons petering out and it’s been a disaster….but lots of teams finish seasons like this when they have nothing to play for, a club like United should always have things to play for, but we haven’t. Neville acts like this sort of thing has never happened before. On repeat for 90 minutes. It’s tiresome.
He's got a point though. Do you really think Martin Keown would have a job on TV if someone didn't have to fill their quota of Cro Magnon employees?
A white former footballer who thinks from his arse is exactly what diversity reduces.
It's like he's only just realising how shite we are
That’s exactly it. Tip-toeing around the bleeding obvious for so long he now seems to need to prove something by absolutely slaughtering a performance no more shit than literally dozens of matches he’s covered over the last few years, with barely a word of criticism. Proof that he’s well suited for the career in politics he seems to crave.
This, basically.
I found it all pretty disgraceful to be honest. There are 14 teams shitter than us in the league - the moral outrage culture at United being a bit crap got boring a long time ago. As Ronay says It’s now it’s own industry - who can create the greatest fecking soundbite.
That’s probably the single most mystifying fact about this league campaign. I do think we have objectively looked as bad as most of the bottom half teams throughout most this season. The difference being we have that little bit of stardust that can turn a game round.
Plus our recent run has surely been as bad as any team in the league? We’ve only won twice in our last 10 league matches and each win needed a Ronaldo hat-trick to get the points. Most of those games against very poor teams too. Throw in the humiliations against City/Liverpool and the sixth place position looks very flattering.
Having said all that, the hysterics from Nev last night were tiresome as feck. Especially when you consider the double standards compared to his punditry during performances that were equally shit in the past.
Doesn’t normally bother me, but the bilge he spewed first half last night was shocking. Commentate on the game FFS - it’s better at this point he just doesn’t do United games.
I think this is just grass is greener syndrome. If you watched the other teams every week and judged them on the standards of our past you’d think they were utter dog shite too. It’s all relative. We’ve fallen off a cliff since atletico but even then we were clearly better than an Arsenal team likely to finish 4th. The reality is about 10 players in this squad have their futures up in the air and are being managed by someone leaving soon who keeps saying in public they all need replacing - add in the zero confidence, players getting abused every day in the media/online and general fan discontent at the games anyone expecting any sort of performance is setting themselves up for disappointment. Who the feck wants to play in these circumstances? We tick every box of how not to get results currently. The entire club has checked out until next year and but for West Ham being distracted by the Europa league and wolves being shite I’d be certain we’d end up finishing 8th.
Honestly if I was a Chelsea fan; or any other fan watching, I'd mute him.
Every game becomes "Gary Neville on Man United". Commentate on the game ffs.
Every game becomes "Gary Neville on Man United". Commentate on the game ffs.
quite Funny how people get upset about whatever he says, when the majority have spent all week saying the same things on here, he's a fan just like us, the players have been shit and their attitude is horrific. he's not said anything wrong.
Christ some of you are a sensitive bunch. His commentary was a throughly accurate representation of the game.
What you'll notice about Neville as that although he can say a lot of shite about United, United is all he'll really talk about. If United are getting blitzed in a match, he will praise the opposition but he seems more concerned with talking about what United are doing wrong.
I never take him as more than a red who is sick of seeing the club be shit. And his "United shouldn't think about trophies for 3 or 4 seasons" just strikes me more as him taking pressure and expectation off the manager. As opposed to Carra who will say United should start challenging immediately to add the pressure
I never take him as more than a red who is sick of seeing the club be shit. And his "United shouldn't think about trophies for 3 or 4 seasons" just strikes me more as him taking pressure and expectation off the manager. As opposed to Carra who will say United should start challenging immediately to add the pressure
this ^^^
His friend is not there anymore so he can actually say something about the team. Although he should have been saying it when Ole was in charge.
Meaning?
Spot on.
I know its his job with Sky Sports but I hope (I know its never going to happen) next season Gary tones it down with the criticism. The clubs needs time to breath, the ex players have all spoken about 2-3 even 4 years to get it right, so there is no need to slag them all off individually every 3-4 days...we get it! United are a bit shit, but the drama they create in the studio doesn't help the club in any way.
There’s nothing wrong with diversity, seems very strange to blame that for declining levels of punditry.
The problem with Neville is his double standards. He protected Moyes and Ole as much as he could, while he attacked LvG, Mourinho, and now RR as much as he can (and will do the same with EtH). Incredibly unprofessional.
It wasn’t though. He wouldn’t have commented like that in any other fixture with the exact same balance of play. We all know he finds it hard to be balanced about United because he’s a fan. He’s aware of this and usually responds by over-compensating and taking a stance on, for example, dodgy refereeing decisions that would be the exact opposite to a United fan. That grates but you can understand it as an effort to be professional.
Last night was just a load of performative wailing and gnashing of teeth that he’s only started doing under the current manager when it was equally applicable during many spells under our former manager. Not even a token effort to show some balance or analyse the game. It was like listening to some dickhead from AFTV ranting and raving, not a professional pundit.
Yeah this is my issue with him too. He does talk sense at times but everything is so agenda driven with him it’s impossible to see him as credible.
Yep, maybe opposition fans get enjoyment from this though.
Also helps, when going against this particular side, that criticism will be thoroughly levelled/directed at United for the majority of the game.
I totally agree with you. nothing wrong with diversity. However, standards have dropped dramatically. Shouldn't be about the colour of your skin, be it black-blue-white-yellow-green or whatever. Some of the new pundits are totally clueless and make you cringe just listening to them.
Has he ?
Are you taking the piss? As if piss poor punditry wasn’t a thing before it became more diverse. The likes of Jamie Redknapp, Paul Merson, Charlie Nicholas and Lawro have been criticised for years for being shit but no one tried to find a correlation between their ability and their ethnicity. Racist posters like you always expose themselves.
There’s a lot to moan about to be fair
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Nothing racist about my post unless your a snowflake.
Maybe you should clarify it then for us, because at the minute it reads like a dog whistle. What has diversity got to do with it ?
I mean you equated diversity with a drop in standards of punditry as if it were the sole reason. Quite a weird claim to make. *you're
Be so kind as to name some pundits whose inclusion due to 'diversity' has led to plummeting standards?
What's a snowflake?
States diversity is a reason punditry is now worse
Calls anyone who calls the racist post a racist post a snowflake.
Do you have any evidence that it has anything to do with diversity? Or are you just a snowflake who is upset that you have to hear from different people on the television?
This!
Pretty sure you know, if not goggle it. I'm stating since diversity came the in word in social media standards have dropped in pundits/commentators. its that simple. nothing more, nothing less.