They have to. Imagine how bad he'd be if he got a sniff of the club freezing him out. He already causes enough negativity around the club and that's with him fully onside. I don't think for a minute he means to btw, he just can't stop talking, can't stop being negative when things are going bad and inadvertently making things worse around the fanbase, etc. I fully believe that when we finally do get things right no one will be happier than him.
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Need to hear the context of his quote about injuries but the only thing i can think of is that he means that it's mostly been one area of the pitch where all the injuries have been-the defence- but even that's not really true at all with Mount, Casemiro, Hojlund, Mainoo etc all missing key games.
Great video that, interesting watching them at work particularly Drury.
Neville comes across as a lot more professional than Carragher unsurprisingly. You can see him turning the persona on/off, he’s just doing a job at the end of the day.
I really enjoyed listening to GNev today, he is trying hard to do his job while being a fan of this club & being hurt by what he is watching every week. I love that he calls out the tactical issues during the game rather than just trying to behave like nothing is wrong. It’s unfortunate that his time at Sky has come with United being trash for the most part which makes people hate him
He's an insufferable wanker. Fully embedded in the Sky Sports everything-is-a-hysterical-drama schtick now. Get in the bin.
So he says all the things we say on a daily basis but gets criticized for it? I don't understand the G Nev hate
A better way of understanding it is that the haters are bigger wankers than he is
Since he's part of INEOS stadium rebuild hopefully next season he will stop sucking off other managers and clubs.
He's a pure gimmick at this stage trying too hard to please and talk up other clubs than his own club.
People are wrong to think he's somehow biased against us, he's obviously not.
That said, I think his commentary isn't as good as it was a few years ago. Him and Sky have gone in a very clickbaity direction and it's really sensationalist.
That said, I think his commentary isn't as good as it was a few years ago. Him and Sky have gone in a very clickbaity direction and it's really sensationalist.
Yeah hes trying too hard to please other clubs fans. You can do that or appear neutral without trying too hard.
Yep really true. He used to be an insightful pundit.
There was nothing obvious about it, he didn’t mention it being a tactical instruction at all, so much so that Carragher had to mention it twice in defence of Kobbie, all the while Neville ignored Carragher and continued his rant about the ‘basics’.
Let’s face it, Nev is an arsehole. I understand being angry and frustrated at the state of UTD but to get vicious with young players as a result, particularly those that are least deserving, is shit.
He was talking specifically for this game. He said Utd have 8, arguably 9 of their starting 11 playing so can't be making excuses.
A completely normal reaction to a 50 yard equaliser against our biggest rivals is to immediately talk about how 'embarrassed' you are that we've scored.
I watched the podcast after the match on YouTube and he makes it clear that there must be a tactical instruction, Mainoo scored a great goal but his overall performance wasn't that good, but he wasn't the only one, that first half was one of the most inept performances I've ever seen, some of the passing would made a schoolboy team embarrassed
Fairly obvious to me that he was questioning why Mainoo is being asked to do what he was doing that rather than why he is choosing to do it as an individual player.
Some on here need Paddy Crerand employed by Sky on an alternative feed.
Some on here need Paddy Crerand employed by Sky on an alternative feed.
He's a fecking moron
He's going hard on ten Hag and our set-up. He's absolutely bang on. We're a fecking shit show.
Think he's ace, never understand the anger towards him on here, completely bizarre.
I didn't listen to his in game commentary but I felt his post game analysis with Carragher was spot on.
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We have some very soft fans who can’t stand someone saying something they don’t want to hear
You can see plain as day on the Overlap. Neville loves a narrative and he will spin the feck out of a narrative if no-one opposes him, which is what normally happens. A few weeks ago Neville was spinning some weird narrative about 90's Liverpool and United players (something about Liverpool players staying out late on nights out as opposed to United players and that proved how United players were much more focused) and Keane immediately disagreed and Neville backed off from it
He said that and moments later we equalised and then went ahead. Slap it right up him. He is poisoning united fans heads (for those nieve enough to believe what he says) with negative crap.
There are a lot of criticisms of Neville, especially concerning his game commentary, that are absolutely justified.
What's wrong with his in game commentary? People want more personality and honesty in football and then when people say what's on their mind (right or wrong) everyone gets up in arms about it. You can have these opinion pundits or we can go back to the boring tropes or Peter Drury trying to squeeze Old Testament quotes into football matches. The problem is that for some reason people think Neville has some sort of influence when he speaks, the reality is that he's in in the entertainment industry and he's encouraged to speak his mind because it's good tv.
It's terrible and biased.
Biased against or for United?
Against usually to try and be 'neutral'
Yeah, I like Neville the TV studio pundit or on shows like the Overlap / Stick to football - he has a way of great way of putting things across that has a mix of emotion and insight. However, he’s far too melodramatic in the commentary box especially on United games but also otherwise (million pound bottle jobs or whatever bit was). He generally tries way too hard to compensate for being a United fan with his sucking off of City and Liverpool and often making a fit out of himself talking about us.
Would anyone prefer it if he was biased towards us and not against us?
Did he repeat the last few words every time he made a point?...made a point?
I like it when he does that...does that.
Sign of great intelligence...intelligence.
I like it when he does that...does that.
Sign of great intelligence...intelligence.
Like Carragher you mean. I'd just prefer him to not be a cretin
Neville played for United for 10 years, 5 as captain, when we won the lot. He was incredibly good. Saying he’s average is a terrible take that reeks of either having an agenda or not knowing what makes someone a good player. Neville won 20 trophies, including eight Premier League titles and two UEFA Champions League titles.
I know you weren't the person who originally quoted me but I'll refer back to my original point:
Personally I don't really care what Neville says, his opinion holds no weight with me apart from I know he's played the game and he's super fecking serious about football so I doubt he can ever really enjoy anything unless it's a 9/10 performance. We've all got one mate who can't ever enjoy anything and Neville is that mate, just take him for what he is.
It's not him telling the truth that does my head in, I quite like that aspect of his analysis. It's just when he hammers things/players and never lets it go.
That’s the void inside Carragher’s head causing an echo.
I don't care about been biased for or against - I'd like him to have a semblance of neutrality and clear mindedness, because being biased makes him spin things in a certain way and miss some obvious points from the game.
Maybe it’s a little bit like the coach’s kid syndrome where you end up treating your own kid a little more harshly than the other kids - you don’t mean to do it. It’s just the way it works out.
Exactly. He was laying into the side as though what happened in the remainder of the game wasn't entirely predictable. Did he even watch the last game? I'm not Ten Hag's biggest fan, far from it, but United coming back was always on the cards, and to claim this was the easiest game Liverpool would play for the remainder of the season was beyond thick. He's one of those loudmouth fans who make sure everyone here's them criticise the team during the match, so that when they lose he can save himself the embarrassment of supporting the losing side by saying 'I told you so'.