Gary Cahill

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The notion that he is mediocre is pretty misguided.

Indeed.

Very good player and will be a good signing for whoever he goes to. Been watched by all of the top clubs in England for a while if you believe what you hear, as well as a number of top foreign sides.

has always impressed me when I've watched him. Some people on here seem to forget that Phil Jones was plying his trande a relegation fodder last year - as a general rule better side around you equals better player.
 
Who said it was?

No one but you indicated this signing (as well as his others) show he's not half bad in the market. I would say it shows nothing at all. It's a pretty obvious deal for anyone after a centre half in the Premier League.

£7 million rarely gets you an established PL player these days let alone an England International.

What's that got to do with anything? It's widely known he'd be going on the cheap as he's out of contract in the Summer.

I'd suspect Chelsea are simply the biggest club interested.

It wouldn't be a particularly difficult choice for Cahill.
 
By the looks of it, he has managed to beat Tottenham and Liverpool to the signing. They were the two teams that were really interested and genuinely needed him.
Spurs were interested last summer, but that interest seems to have waned now.

King has played (is playing) more games than expected this season, Kaboul has continued to improve, Dawson is now running again and should return in January, we have Gallas and the option in January of recalling young Caulker from his loan spell at Swansea where he's done well.

Overall we've not conceded that many goals so far ... especially if you exclude the 2 opening games, which were somewhat freak results for well-known reasons.

I could be wrong, but I'm not sure there is a strong Spurs interest in Cahill this time around.
 
Spurs were interested last summer, but that interest seems to have waned now.

King has played (is playing) more games than expected this season, Kaboul has continued to improve, Dawson is now running again and should return in January, we have Gallas and the option in January of recalling young Caulker from his loan spell at Swansea where he's done well.

Overall we've not conceded that many goals so far ... especially if you exclude the 2 opening games, which were somewhat freak results for well-known reasons.

I could be wrong, but I'm not sure there is a strong Spurs interest in Cahill this time around.

But you think that is going to stop 'Arry from trying to get him? He loves having extra options, he is cheap and I feel he is better than pretty much all the options you have centrally.
 
But you think that is going to stop 'Arry from trying to get him? He loves having extra options, he is cheap and I feel he is better than pretty much all the options you have centrally.

Really?
 
No one but you indicated this signing (as well as his others) show he's not half bad in the market. I would say it shows nothing at all. It's a pretty obvious deal for anyone after a centre half in the Premier League.



What's that got to do with anything? It's widely known he'd be going on the cheap as he's out of contract in the Summer.

I'd suspect Chelsea are simply the biggest club interested.

It wouldn't be a particularly difficult choice for Cahill.

You said it was "hardly a masterstroke" - I was suggesting that while it may not be its a good deal. Relatively low risk and a talented player.
 
Coyle has confirmed that Chelsea are in talking with Bolton over the sale of Cahill.

*phew*
 
You said it was "hardly a masterstroke" - I was suggesting that while it may not be its a good deal. Relatively low risk and a talented player.

What's happened here is you've jumped in half way through a conversation and not understood the context.

When speaking of this signing Elliot said the early signs are that AVB isn't half bad in the transfer market. To which I replied with my master stroke statement which was obviously meaning that whilst Cahill is a very good signing it doesn't really say anything about AVB because it's an obvious signing.

I wasn't saying it wasn't a good deal, in fact in this very thread I said it was a good signing.
 
I don't think he'll come here, because there really isn't any need for us to sign him. I can understand that some may feel we're needy at the moment because Vidic is out, but once he's back ,Cahill would be deemed redundant.

Not only would he be behind Ferdinand and Vidic in the pecking order, he would also be behind Smalling, and possibly even Jones. He may be a decent defender, but to be honest, I think that some overhype him to an extent. He's another footballer who receives a lot of praise because he's good on the ball. His defensive ability is okay, but it's nothing so special that would warrant him being linked to nearly all of the top 4 contenders.

I can see him going to Chelsea now. Out of all of the top clubs, they're probably the ones who need a centre back the most. I think that they could get better than Cahill, however he is probably the safest option to take. It says something when you think that Cahill would probably be their best centre back if they were to buy him. Either way, I'm sure he'll leave. Coyle is coming out and blatantly admitting it, but he is hinting at it. Usually, even when a major player at a club leaves, the manager will be insistent in keeping him until the sale itself, or will appear that way. That doesn't seem to be the case in this one. Coyle is certainly hinting that he may be sold, which makes sense considering his contract doesn't have a lot longer left to run.
 
He was quoted for what 15m in the summer ? 7m for a current PL players ( English ) is a very good price imo.

Chelsea are desperately in need of more defensive cover with Alex maybe also leaving... Good signing for them if true.

Contract is up in the Summer.
 
If I was Chelsea, I would try and drive the price down a little more because they are sure to lose Cahill for nothing in the summer. So they will be willing to sell for a little less than £7m. Bolton have no choice unless they can start a bidding war, which does not seem likely.
 
Thing is virtually all clubs from top 6 need a defender to some extent right now so they'd have no problem setting up a bidding war between them. Tottenham and Arsenal probably need him the most, then Liverpool and Chelsea. City could use him but will most likely buy someone better in the Summer, we could use him but will be fine without.
 
I usually make my mind up about players pretty quickly but I really don't know whether Cahill is just another average PL CB or not. I've certainly never seen a stand-out performance from him.
 
I usually make my mind up about players pretty quickly but I really don't know whether Cahill is just another average PL CB or not. I've certainly never seen a stand-out performance from him.

It was only when I saw him live at the Reebok a few times I realised he was going to be an excellent centre half.
 
If I was Chelsea, I would try and drive the price down a little more because they are sure to lose Cahill for nothing in the summer. So they will be willing to sell for a little less than £7m. Bolton have no choice unless they can start a bidding war, which does not seem likely.

No point losing out on Cahill over the difference between £6-7 million if we are just going to have to spend £15 million plus in the summer to get someone of equal quality.
 
I know he's nothing special but if Arsenal were somehow still interested they should try to have Squillaci included on loan for the rest of the season. That way they could chuck the money at the areas that really need strengthening. But he'll most likely end up at Chelsea and Bolton will go down regardless of what they spend and where.
 
No point losing out on Cahill over the difference between £6-7 million if we are just going to have to spend £15 million plus in the summer to get someone of equal quality.

The thing is you need at least two centre halfs. You can get one of them cheaply in Cahill, so you will have Cahill, Terry, Ivanovic and Luiz till the summer. You need a proper right back cover for Bosignwa. Ferraira is just plain shit. So either you don't spend in the summer for a defender or just buy one centre half and move Ivanovic back to right back.
 
I usually make my mind up about players pretty quickly but I really don't know whether Cahill is just another average PL CB or not. I've certainly never seen a stand-out performance from him.

There were many life saving tackles made by him against big teams, I still remember some very good defending against us...

The thing is, he won't become a Vidic but he certainly is no Bramble as he usually is more consistent.

Not that I follow Bolton, but whenever I see him, he's been quite good...

Good enough to be valued at 7m regardless of his contract situation... He's slightly above average - good defender who has a lot of PL experience and is a player that can help Chelsea's current defense crisis as Luiz looks like he needs more time to adapt.
 
There were many life saving tackles made by him against big teams, I still remember some very good defending against us...

The thing is, he won't become a Vidic but he certainly is no Bramble as he usually is more consistent.

Not that I follow Bolton, but whenever I see him, he's been quite good...

Good enough to be valued at 7m regardless of his contract situation... He's slightly above average - good defender who has a lot of PL experience and is a player that can help Chelsea's current defense crisis as Luiz looks like he needs more time to adapt.

This season he has hardly had a good game at all..
 
Good enough to be valued at 7m regardless of his contract situation... He's slightly above average - good defender who has a lot of PL experience and is a player that can help Chelsea's current defense crisis as Luiz looks like he needs more time to adapt.

They should try and play in midfield like how we play Jones. Luiz is too much of a liability sometimes plus he also looks good going forward.
 
I don't think he'll come here, because there really isn't any need for us to sign him. I can understand that some may feel we're needy at the moment because Vidic is out, but once he's back ,Cahill would be deemed redundant.

Not only would he be behind Ferdinand and Vidic in the pecking order, he would also be behind Smalling, and possibly even Jones. He may be a decent defender, but to be honest, I think that some overhype him to an extent. He's another footballer who receives a lot of praise because he's good on the ball. His defensive ability is okay, but it's nothing so special that would warrant him being linked to nearly all of the top 4 contenders.

I can see him going to Chelsea now. Out of all of the top clubs, they're probably the ones who need a centre back the most. I think that they could get better than Cahill, however he is probably the safest option to take. It says something when you think that Cahill would probably be their best centre back if they were to buy him. Either way, I'm sure he'll leave. Coyle is coming out and blatantly admitting it, but he is hinting at it. Usually, even when a major player at a club leaves, the manager will be insistent in keeping him until the sale itself, or will appear that way. That doesn't seem to be the case in this one. Coyle is certainly hinting that he may be sold, which makes sense considering his contract doesn't have a lot longer left to run.

I take it you mean because Terry is going to be out for a while. Because the old lionheart showed yesterday that he is still a great defender, better than Cahill will ever be.
 
They should try and play in midfield like how we play Jones. Luiz is too much of a liability sometimes plus he also looks good going forward.

Similar to Jones I pressume, their both very young but Luiz lacks that concentration sometimes and maybe also the language barrier doesn't help him much.

But he showed a lot of potential in his first 10 matches for them.

I don't think he'll fit in Chelsea's MF, they still have Essien and Mikel as DM's ( Once Essien is fit that is )... So their only option for me is to either use him as a fullback just like Smalling/Jones as his burst of speed could really be an asset to them considering how poor Paulo Ferriera ( Once touted the best RB in the world by many ) has been.

Luiz imo. will definitely be a good player, he just needs maybe this season to adapt and we'll see his full power next season.

Right now, GC isn't a bad choice, with JT allegedly faced with racism charges and could find a possible ban at some part of the season GC wouldn't be a bad option to have as a squad player.

The fact is, 7m is like pocket change for Roman so let it be.
 
This season he has hardly had a good game at all..

He did play really well against us, made some very nice tackles. I haven't caught too much this season but I watched Bolton frequently last season and prior to last season and he is a very good defender, very underrated by some and has been quite consistent for the past 3 seasons imo. However to some, that might not be the case...
 
I take it you mean because Terry is going to be out for a while. Because the old lionheart showed yesterday that he is still a great defender, better than Cahill will ever be.
Well that's the media narrative but he didn't actually play very well. Lost Adebayor for the goal, lost him for the offside goal (possibly wasn't offside). Let him have two good shooting chances inside the box one hit with no power, one off Terry's arse a bit luckily.
 
Now watch Cahill suddenly become first choice CB for England.......just hope it doesn't mean we keep playing Terry because of their partnership and understand at club.
 
Now watch Cahill suddenly become first choice CB for England.......just hope it doesn't mean we keep playing Terry because of their partnership and understand at club.

He has been first choice centre back for England since he made his debut in March. I daresay it's a spot he could easily lose to someone like Lescott, Jagielka, Smalling or Jones but he's been Terry's most frequent partner this year anyway.
 
He is solid enough. I think he gets found out by better players...that being said he'll get more protection at Chelsea.

If the fee is as low as being reported it's not a bad deal.
 
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