Well, he's better than what they have other than Kompany atm. Unless they buy, i dont see him dropping back to the bench tbh. he's shown a definite improvement.
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Well, he's better than what they have other than Kompany atm. Unless they buy, i dont see him dropping back to the bench tbh. he's shown a definite improvement.
They will buy someone.
Yeah, i think so too. Its the only real weakness in their squad. i dont see them not doing anything about it.
Indeed. Thiago Silva is quite heavily linked apparently.
The only way he'd make sense for us is if the plan was to make Jones a regular in midfield. He'd be a great buy for Arsenal, Liverpool or Spurs IMO.
Yes he is. I'd be really disappointed if the deal goes through. Brilliant defender that lad.
I think he's better than Evans and Rio is losing his ability at an alarming rate!
Cahill would be a good purchase given the age of rio and vidic!
Aye he's looked good but the Premier League is a different animal.
We don't need another centre back.
We have purchased two in the last 18 months. No need for more.
We have purchased two in the last 18 months. No need for more.
Naah. we already have Jones and Smalling who need first team football to progress their careers. both are far too good for the reserves.
Yes, but quality is quality tbh. Players worse than him are doing well here. just a matter of keeping patience and giving him time. Him and Kompany would be a great CB pairing.
I find him really over-rated, decent defender but not as good people make him out to be. Chelsea should sign Jagielka IMO, he's better than Cahill.
Very good defender, i think he's seen as over rated because he's at Bolton and so doesn't have the evidence of clean sheets to back his ability up.
If Spurs or Chelsea take him, and he is paired with another quality CB, then Im sure more people will see how good he is.
If Spurs or Chelsea take him, and he is paired with another quality CB, then Im sure more people will see how good he is.
Why not take him?
Cheap, good player and right age... Rio hasn't that long left to go it appears.
Cheap, good player and right age... Rio hasn't that long left to go it appears.
Does he take the big money City offer or join a proper club like Barca?
I hope we get him. Young, Talented and English.
To make up for the lack of midfield options, overload everywhere else. Top idea.
We don't need him.
I think he'll end up at Spurs.
I think he'll end up at Spurs.
And play him ahead of the likes of Smalling, Jones and Evans not to mention Rio? Naah. Very good defender but not worth it. Chelsea bound if AVB has sense.
Rio IMO is old and it seems will be past it come next season. That leaves us Vidic, Jones, Smalling and Evans. Jones looks likely to be Rafael's full time right back competitor going by his current displays.
That IMO should leave us room to sign a center back next summer to cover for Rio's demise. I have no qualms with having Smalling, Vidic, Evans and player like Cahill as our center backs, for I believe in competition for places. So where you go the idea we'd buy him to play ahead of anybody I don't know. For me I'd love him here to keep our defence strong post Rio. My view on that will only change if Zeki Freyers really states a claim for the first team come the season end and of course if Rio's current slide gets halted
Cahill is likely to move in January anyway.
Even considering Rio's slide in form, it leaves us with Vidic Smalling Jones and Evans for the CB spots next season with both Jones and Smalling also capable of playing RB. 4 players for 2 CB positions is enough. Specially when the player you want to sign, cahill in this case, will want to start games and not be on the bench.
Also, even though Jones has had a few shaky displays at CB, thats where he'l end up eventually imo. He's just 19. Will get better with time. Also, its highly unlikely that fryers will be anywhere close to the first team in any important game by the end of the season.
Also, as bryan said, he'l move in jan in all probability. Sides like chelsea and spurs being the most likely destination as far as am concerned. Not us.
If Jones cements his first team place at right back, which seems a possibility with Rafael's injury woes, they wont be 4 any more.
I agree though that January is a likely move for him. So Spurs and Chelsea seem favorites with Arsenal too.
We need another CB sooner or later (Next 12 months) and Cahill would be a fantastic choice.
He'll end up at Chelsea.
I'd bet Jones will end up mostly at CB from next season onwards.
I'd bet Jones will end up mostly at CB from next season onwards.
Its a possibility but surely it'd make more sense to actually wait before giving up on rafael before signing a player?
And i dont think arsenal would be interested even though he'd be a massive improvement on mertesacker. Wenger is arrogant in that way.
Why?
To replace rio?
We already have imo.
We don't need a CB, it's more likely that we would sign a right back and shift Jones and Smalling pertmanently to the centre. We have Fabio and Rafael who are both excellent full backs when fit which is almosr NEVER.
Jones and Smalling won't both be permanently moved to the centre anytime soon.
8 defenders aren't enough, espcially with injury-prone players like Ferdinand, Rafael and Fabio.
Cahill is a CB. We have enough players there imo. Also, he's someone who'd want to start games and not be on the bench. Do that and we'd be shunting the growth of players like smalling evans and jones.
not worth it imo.
It's not a case of giving up on Rafael. It's rather a case of Jones being naturally the better defender. Yet his attacking skills are about as good as Rafael's whilst playing at fullback.
Which would leave us Vidic Smalling and Evans at CB when Rio does retire with jones able to play there with rafael filling in at RB in case of an emergency. This assuming you're right when you say Jones will eventually be a RB which i dont agree with.
That's just wrong on both parts. Jones is a better physical specimen. On form, Rafael is a better fullback defensively, and he's one of the best crossers in our team plus got a bit of skill on the ball.
Why would you deny Jones the opportunity to hone his obvious talents in the role which he is destined to play? Sometimes you're just strange, chief.
I don't agree at all about the defensive bit. I also never said anywhere Rafael's attacking game was weak as you seem to be implying.
You are the one who is being strange. No one would be denying Jones anything. The fact is he has been excellent at right back. To act like its beyond the realms of possibility for him to become one permanently is what I find strange indeed. He is 19. He can became anything he wants.
Gazetta dello Sport says that Inter want him but it's almost impossible because Manchester United have the edge. 
I find it hard to believe that we want him unless we plan to use Smalling and Jones as regular right back's and in Jones case midfield too.
He's a very good player Cahill and wouldn't cost much, but not really sure we need more defenders. Would be happy if we sign him though as he's proven in the PL and the fee would be ok.
He's a very good player Cahill and wouldn't cost much, but not really sure we need more defenders. Would be happy if we sign him though as he's proven in the PL and the fee would be ok.
I'd be amazed if we went for Cahill.
I wouldn't.
Fits the bill of a modern day Fergie signing. Cheap, British, bags of potential + Premier League experience.
Not saying we need him, just that I wouldn't be surprised.
He's better than Evans after all....
We don't need him in my opinion, that's why I'd be amazed.
He's 2 years ahead of Evans in his development and I'm not convinced he's miles better than an Evans on top of his game anyway.
He's 2 years ahead of Evans in his development and I'm not convinced he's miles better than an Evans on top of his game anyway.
Yeh that's a good point. It's easy to forget Evans is just 23. Seems like he's been around for ages.
I don't we're that well stocked in defence though. We'll need a left full back that can challenge or another centre half for next season IMO.
It seems the Da Silvas simply can not stay fit.
Right now we have Ferdinand, Vidic, Jones, Smalling, Evans and Evra available. Who knows when Rio will break down next leaving us with just 5.
We should buy him. We're very opportunistic with our signngs these days and he represents a good opportunity!
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