Gary Cahill

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"£6m and a pack of space invaders"
 
"When I make an offer for a player, I'd like to think in the right ball park, but this wasn't even close."

:lol:

Wenger is taking the piss now.

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Bolton have beaten Birmingham to the £5 million capture of central-defender Gary Cahill from Aston Villa.
- 2008 Price.
 
I wonder if he goes to the supermarket and offers 50p for a fillet steak. Idiot.

:lol: I just don't get why he's so allergic to buying defenders for decent money. I reckon Cahill would be a solid purchase, decent on the ball and strong in the air, if he signed both him and Jagielka, would represent quite a defensive coup and provide good backup for Vermalean.
 
I don't know what their goal was, unless they're trying to unsettle him and get him on the cheap. In which case their bleating about Nasrigas becomes more than a little disingenuous.
 
It does seem a bit hypocritical, but then again if other people do it to them you can't blame them for doing it to others. Likewise you can't blame Bolton if they hold out and squeeze Arsenal for every penny they can get, and end up getting somewhere between this initial £6 million and the £20 million they want.
 
Honestly

Wanderers boss Owen Coyle saying: "The word derisory doesn't even cover it. When I make an offer for a player, I'd like to think in the right ball park, but this wasn't even close." England international centre-back Cahill reportedly has a release fee of £17 million written into his Bolton contract, which is due to expire at the end of next season. He fits the profile of the imposing, aerially-dominant defender that Wenger is searching for in order to shore up a defence that was alarmingly leaky last season, surrendering 43 goals in the league.
And Wenger insists he is willing to pay more than £6 million to secure the 25-year-old's signature. "It's completely wrong and nothing to do with how much we are ready to pay," he said.
"I believe the negotiation is between two parties and you only have to sell if you can agree on the price. In this case the information is below what has been spoken about.
"You can believe me, or you can believe [Bolton chairman Phil Gartside]. I just tell you that it's not right, it's not the truth. And if Gartside says I am lying, I'm ready to confront him."

Fking embarrassing.

Wenger's completely lost his marbles - the man's a joke
 
Hey Arsene, that young keeper of yours looks quite good. 2m ought to cover it.
 
Jo pub if wenger manages to get him by unsettling him and then bidding 10 mil, would you really still think he's a joke because of this?

Personally I can't see why any Gunner would lose sleep over the bid as long as they end up getting him.
 
Jo pub if wenger manages to get him by unsettling him and then bidding 10 mil, would you really still think he's a joke because of this?

Personally I can't see why any Gunner would lose sleep over the bid as long as they end up getting him.

This whole "unsettling" players by making a bid has to be one of the biggest myths in football. There's absolutely zero chance that Cahill's agent won't be aware of interest from Arsenal, long before any formal bid is made to Bolton.
 
This whole "unsettling" players by making a bid has to be one of the biggest myths in football. There's absolutely zero chance that Cahill's agent won't be aware of interest from Arsenal, long before any formal bid is made to Bolton.

Yeah but once a bid is made thats possibly his green light to start becoming a little more "surly" around the place or take his "concerns" about his career to his manager which his agent will be aware will make negotiations just that bit more 1 sided.
 
Yeah but once a bid is made thats possibly his green light to start becoming a little more "surly" around the place or take his "concerns" about his career to his manager which his agent will be aware will make negotiations just that bit more 1 sided.

Possibly but wouldn't a very low opening bid have the opposite effect?

He'll been reassured about how Arsenal were dead-set on signing him but when he heard about how they've tried to low-ball Bolton he'll probably just think "for feck's sake, I'm the next Mark Schwartzer"
 
I personally don't think players care that much about the fees that clubs pay for them, its more a case of him now seeing that the interest is concrete even if the fee being touted is derisory.

His agent will know the game Arsenal are playing and will keep him upto speed if nessesary.
 
Why on earth go through all this bollocks ?

Arsenal / Wenger know his worth as do bolton - just agree to more or less split it - thats what happens in 90% of all transfers

Fksakes it's just so Wenger / SO Wenger . If Utd City or Chelsea fancied Cahill they stroll in and hijack the deal in ten fking minutes

Wenger you tight cvnt, pay the fking money and get him - Christ sakes
 
I'm on the side of offering £10m up top, with another £3m in add-ons. That would just about do it as far as I can tell. £6m is a complete joke, principally because that offer would probably not even give them the money up front.
 
6m was his high price to get their interest, now he has to successfully bring them down to 2m.
 
I'm on the side of offering £10m up top, with another £3m in add-ons. That would just about do it as far as I can tell. £6m is a complete joke, principally because that offer would probably not even give them the money up front.

More I think, just pay it and get it sorted out

We've become a fking laughing stock in transfer dealings - Wenger once again

We were always known for quick non public deals - get in, do it, get out but those days are finished.
 
Wenger is saying it wasnt a £6m bid and Bolton are talking shite - I imagine it was probably £6m upfront with a load of other stuff
 
This whole "unsettling" players by making a bid has to be one of the biggest myths in football. There's absolutely zero chance that Cahill's agent won't be aware of interest from Arsenal, long before any formal bid is made to Bolton.
They've already had a discussion about whether he wants to play for Arsenal and what sort of contract he wants. No point in making a bid before that's cleared up.
 
Bolton are kicking-up a fuss about this publicly to pressurise Arsenal into making a big offer, IMO.
 
With less than a week to go for the Transfer Season to end, I doubt it is the right time to start negotiations like that. You want a player, and you want him badly, you cough up the dough,
 
I reckon Bolton will want to sell as he's in the last year of his contract. 15m straight cash and Wenger can have him immediately
 
I reckon Bolton will want to sell as he's in the last year of his contract. 15m straight cash and Wenger can have him immediately

Of course, if he offered that Bolton would take it no doubt. The problem is it seems like even with all this money in the bank from the Nasrigas deals they still don't want to pay decent dollar upfront.

I bet it was 6 million plus add ons that could take it to double that, and that's why Bolton are pissed. Bolton will want the money upfront so they can reuse it to buy other players, they don't want a deal that says they might possibly get some money in a few years time.

Still it's not as bad as making an offer for a player that is laughed out the room and then returning the year after with the same offer...
 
Bolton are being right little cnuts about this, all they are doing by making this public is trying to get other clubs involved. For a player with one year on his contract and if his value is say £15mill with a longer contract isn't going to be worth more than 6-8 mill with a year left. They are just trying to force our hand into paying more or get other clubs to make bigger offers.
 
Bolton are being right little cnuts about this, all they are doing by making this public is trying to get other clubs involved. For a player with one year on his contract and if his value is say £15mill with a longer contract isn't going to be worth more than 6-8 mill with a year left. They are just trying to force our hand into paying more or get other clubs to make bigger offers.
Yes it's shocking that Bolton are trying to drum up interest in their player and get as much money as possible
 
15 million for an average defender with one year left on his contract? Christ City and their spending has ruined football.
 
I'd wouldn't say average IMO he is a top PL defender in today's market he is well worth 10mil plus.
 
At the end of the day a player is worth what a team is willing to pay and a team is willing to accept

Can't think of too many top CBs that are available now and Cahill is a good solid defender in the hangeland, jagielka class

10 million would be a fair price
 
Wenger is saying it wasnt a £6m bid and Bolton are talking shite - I imagine it was probably £6m upfront with a load of other stuff

6million up front and 200million if they win the league in the next 5 years.

6million then.
 
Bolton are being dickheads. They didn't have to go public with the bid. We receive bids for players all the time and the information isn't released by us, ie Berbatov recently, Gibson it would seem.

They know Arsenals situation and are playing on it. I can understand they want more money and you can't blame them for that, but there's no need for the comments they're made or that completely ridiculous retweet. Then, they never have been a club with much class.
 
Yes it's shocking that Bolton are trying to drum up interest in their player and get as much money as possible

What was their need to go public and start putting down the bid and retweeting some guy telling Wenger to feck off. If they don't want to sell then they should come out and say so or tell Arsenal behind closed doors their offer isn't enough to so pay more.

Bolton are being dickheads. They didn't have to go public with the bid. We receive bids for players all the time and the information isn't released by us, ie Berbatov recently, Gibson it would seem.

They know Arsenals situation and are playing on it. I can understand they want more money and you can't blame them for that, but there's no need for the comments they're made or that completely ridiculous retweet. Then, they never have been a club with much class.

Nice to see someone gets it....
 
What was their need to go public and start putting down the bid and retweeting some guy telling Wenger to feck off. If they don't want to sell then they should come out and say so or tell Arsenal behind closed doors their offer isn't enough to so pay more.



Nice to see someone gets it....
The Bolton chairman was obviously out of order but it's a clubs prerogative to go public if they want

Why wouldn't you want to drum up competition when selling a player??

Had arsenal been able to get 4/5 teams bidding for fabregas and there hadn't been the going home factor they would have received a lot more than the 29 million they got

Bolton owe arsenal nothing especially given the disrespect of their playing style shown by wenger in the past
 
All the player has to do is pout and refuse to play and make a few public statements about his desire to move... and Arsenal will get him for much less than what Bolton want.

Or does that only work for Barca?
 
The Bolton chairman was obviously out of order but it's a clubs prerogative to go public if they want

Why wouldn't you want to drum up competition when selling a player??

Had arsenal been able to get 4/5 teams bidding for fabregas and there hadn't been the going home factor they would have received a lot more than the 29 million they got

Bolton owe arsenal nothing especially given the disrespect of their playing style shown by wenger in the past

They could simply come out and say Arsenal have had a bid put in and rejected as it undervalues their player and leave it at that, nobody would moan and complain. That way they would get it out in the open Arsenal has made an offer and get some interest in their player, if that is what they want. What is the need for the Bolton chairman to make those comments on twitter and their coach to call the bid beyond derisory or say it wasn't even close. Who the hell is he to decide what we should bid, if he doesn't accept the offer say no and leave it at that. When you start taking cheap shots in the press that is just poor and pathetic really. More chance of Arsenal leaving Cahill and going elsewhere like Everton than anything else.

I have not stated it is wrong for them to get the max they can for the player, so why are you pointing the Fabregas bid out to me?

And finally what has Wenger's comments about Bolton in the past got to do with anything? Nobody is saying they owe us anything
 
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