The guy was a Ballon D'or + World Player of the Year + UEFA Club footballer of the Year winner in 2007. Awesome player, and if we're judging a player by their peak rather than total contribution over their career, I couldn't pick between Iniesta & Kaka.
Gareth Bale
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The guy was a Ballon D'or + World Player of the Year + UEFA Club footballer of the Year winner in 2007. Awesome player, and if we're judging a player by their peak rather than total contribution over their career, I couldn't pick between Iniesta & Kaka.
Love iniesta but Kaka was the main man for his team. Was Iniesta ever the top player for Barca?
Not for an extended period, though in fairness he's played alongside Xavi & Messi during the peak of his career, so I wouldnt hold that against him.
thought i was in the wrong thread for a second there. Isn't this about Bale? Not Kaka and Iniesta?
My thoughts on Bale is that he'd be a fantastic addition but very costly. I have no doubts he'll recapture his form if he joined us. Real Madrid fans are so fickle and have short term memories. He's a game changer but with him coming to us we'd likely see Di Maria off loaded. So i'm a bit torn. Di Maria still has a lot to offer and you don't become shit over night.
My thoughts on Bale is that he'd be a fantastic addition but very costly. I have no doubts he'll recapture his form if he joined us. Real Madrid fans are so fickle and have short term memories. He's a game changer but with him coming to us we'd likely see Di Maria off loaded. So i'm a bit torn. Di Maria still has a lot to offer and you don't become shit over night.
It would have been a dream to have Bale at United under SAF - they'd been perfect for each other.
Now, with the labourous slow paced posession, not so much I think...
Now, with the labourous slow paced posession, not so much I think...
If picking on just a year I would take Kaka and I love Iniesta.
Can't get that image of him making our back four look like the keystone cops out of my head...
.Anyone who thinks Bale is staying at Real after this season needs their head checked.. absolutely up for grabs this summer. I hope he just wants to come to United and isn't interested in the other options, would mean we can get a lower price for him.. I am worried Mourinho might want him but from what I know about him, he wants to be close to Wales eventually.
Manchester to Cardiff is a long journey - London would certainly be easier if that's what he wants (and probably some European cities!)
Isn't he best when cutting in from wide and taking long range shots though? As a number 9 he'd often find himself in tight areas especially against defensive teams.
eh, 3 1/2 hours compared to 2 hours by train. hardly a deal breaker
would take longer to drive to London
I feel like there's a very good chance of this happening. It's hard to see him stay at Real with all the, somewhat unjust, abuse he's getting from fans and media, and if he's leaving, I'd make us favourites followed by Chelsea and City. I do believe we have a shitload of money earmarked this summer in case some Galactico, preferably Bale, becomes available.
Doubt we'd keep Di Maria then but I'd take that swap.
Doubt we'd keep Di Maria then but I'd take that swap.
Bale --> United --> DiMaria --> Bayern
United just need to keep the Bale transfer fee moderate, cause Bayern won´t pay more than €50M given DiMaria´s very high wages. Madrid don´t have much of a choice. There whole system is build around transfer fees and they´l need to generate for Bale. I wouldn´t go any higher than 60.
United just need to keep the Bale transfer fee moderate, cause Bayern won´t pay more than €50M given DiMaria´s very high wages. Madrid don´t have much of a choice. There whole system is build around transfer fees and they´l need to generate for Bale. I wouldn´t go any higher than 60.
To be honest I don't think there's much in the Bayern \ Di Maria link, Well not for the prices predicted anyways as that is just totally against all of Bayern's policies pretty much. They maybe do like him but i'd very surprised if they were to stump up the big money needed for him.
We won't sell Di Maria this summer.
He started brightly and then was in and out of the team.
New season, with better players and he will flourish.
He started brightly and then was in and out of the team.
New season, with better players and he will flourish.
It's only slow and tedious because we don't have players like bale that can change a game through a moment of magic.
Di Maria, Bale and Memphis in the same same side would be excellent. You could try to emulate the Madrid champions league winning side.
Mouthwatering on paper.
Mata can come in for di Maria or either of the two wide men as well. This would give us tactical flexibility, especially if we sign another player who can play deep with Carrick.
Carrick
Herrera - di Maria
Bale - Rooney - Memphis
Herrera - di Maria
Bale - Rooney - Memphis
Mouthwatering on paper.
Mata can come in for di Maria or either of the two wide men as well. This would give us tactical flexibility, especially if we sign another player who can play deep with Carrick.
Hopefully part of any deal for DDG
Bale and Di Maria on the wings could be fantastic
They have history in Madrid that ended in winning the Champions League.Bale and Di Maria on the wings could be fantastic
Worth the risk especially when LVG always look on player's past records.
Why does everybody want to sell di Maria? Then we buy Bale and he might flop, do you wanna sell him as well? We paid a record fee for di Maria, give him at least another season before you throw him under the bus.
Agree completely.
This. Give us Bale and you can have him if DDG really wants to leave.
From my point of view Di Maria has never looked happy here. I don't think he really wanted to leave Madrid but it was made apparent they wanted to play with their new toy. So he was hurriedly found a new club. Thrn he (and family) were the victims of a nasty aggravated Burglary. His form has notably dipped since.
Bale also doesn't look happy at Madrid and his family have moved back to the UK as they were unhappy in Spain. He reportedly hasn't learnt the language and is becoming more and more distanced in the dressing room.
It would make sense for both clubs and the players to make deals whilst the players values are still relatively high and they can appease the fans with other stellar signings. I honestly believe both players will be back to their high standards when happy on and off the pitch.
Bale just needs the Reverse-Samson treatment. Only then will he get his powers back. Plus he won't look like a fool which is a nice bonus.
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Ive managed to convince myself that if we do sign him, we will get a player that needs to show the world he is a great player again....
I think he'd be ridiculously good for us. He's simply more suited to english football really, it happens. I don't think it's a slight on him at all.
If we're gonna sell a player every time he's not happy, we're gonna be moving plenty of them every season. Unless di Maria walks into LVG's office and demands to be sold or LVG himself says he has no use for di Maria, there's no point in getting rid of him. Of course he's not happy right now, he was sold by his dream club and then suffered a series of injuries which put him out of the rotation, his private problems only adding to it. But I'm confident that once he earns his spot back over the summer, things will change and he'll realize the opportunity he has here.
Di Maria was too expensive and is too good of a player to just let him go now, especially since we'd sell him at a massive loss.
If you can't win your spot back during the playing season how do you win it back over a summer where he'll be with Argentina, then needing extended leave from meeting up with our squad and then have yet more competition to content with.....
In the summer, the coaching staff has the time to reevaluate the situation and find the best possible way to use our talent, including one of, if not the most gifted player on the squad. If van Gaal can't find a way to utilize di Maria's talent, he's not as good as some claim he is.
why can't the coaching staff reevaluate during this 9 month season? It's not like we are running in 3 or 4 competitions.
Fergie couldn't utilize Veron and Forlan talents, he ditched Pique for Evans, and Pogba for Anderson.
This 'playing season' called for results to get into top four, and that meant sticking with form players rather than finding the best starting XI for the long run. We didn't have enough time to experiment with the lineup or style of play once Di Maria came back from injury+suspension to find a setup which would bring the best out of him. Now that's CL is confirmed and the season's over, LVG can work on Di Maria's place in the team again, and hopefully we'll see him as a regular starter next season.
Pique wanted to go back to Barcelona we didn't ditch him. As for Pogba we didn't get rid of him for anyone in particular it was just a massive cock up that we didn't play him more.
It's much harder to change your tactics during the season than it is during the summer, especially when you have the pressure of returning to the Champions League forcing your hand. We were never playing great football, but we had finally found a lineup that gave us enough good results to be able to finish in the top four.
Next year we'll have to play better and challenge for the title either way, so finding a way to include di Maria is necessary.
Regarding the players you mentioned:
- Pique wanted to leave.
- Anderson was considered to be a massive talent at the time we acquired him as well, he was just a lazy f**k who didn't make anything out of himself.
- Veron and Forlan ultimately didn't work out, but just because it happened to those two doesn't mean we'll have to throw away every top player that doesn't play up to his potential in his first season, especially given the surroundings that played a role in di Maria's performances.
Neymar didn't have a great first season at Barcelona either and they hold onto him and it worked out well.
No no you got it all wrong,
Fergie gave Pogba the double finger because he liked Park and Rafael more as midfielders.
Managerial decision of the century that turned out to be...
Just thinking, could we convert Bale to a #9? I think he could be pretty ruthless there. His best games for Tottenham came when he was playing through the middle.
Formation time:
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DDG
Carvajal - Hummels - Smalling - Shaw
Carrick
Mata - Herrera - Di Maria - Depay
Bale
Carvajal - Hummels - Smalling - Shaw
Carrick
Mata - Herrera - Di Maria - Depay
Bale
Don't want
If De Gea goes to Madrid, we must get Bale. Not sure why people think he'll flop when he's already EPL proven. The guy was a beast at Spurs, and I see no reason why he couldn't replicate those kind of performances for us.
Bale plots Premier return for record fee
http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/sport/football/European_football/article1557197.ece
http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/sport/football/European_football/article1557197.ece
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