And for the first time in 7 years a non retarded, game decider on the wings.
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And for the first time in 7 years a non retarded, game decider on the wings.
Forgive my scepticism, but that's not a quote that I've ever seen.
It's not a quote per se, it's from phillippe Auclair, he said that on RMC and a few weeks later the offer was confirmed by Perez.
I tend to trust him but you never know.
Have to make sure this doesn't turn into a De Gea thread, or a De Gea vs Valdes thread but which of these do you guys prefer?
Option 1:
or Option 2:
I guess what I'm really asking is, is Bale worth losing De Gea for? Everyone knows how difficult it is to find a world class goalkeeper who could be your #1 for over a decade. Will De Gea want to return to Spain, due to it being his homeland, eventually? I don't know.
It's a tough choice, but I'd say to stick with De Gea. If we are really after Bale, which I doubt it, and Madrid are willing to sell, which I doubt it, then I hope De Gea will not be involved at all in the deal.
Option 1:
De Gea
RB CB CB LB
Blind
Herrera Di Maria
Mata
Rooney CF
RB CB CB LB
Blind
Herrera Di Maria
Mata
Rooney CF
or Option 2:
Valdes
RB CB CB LB
Blind Herrera
Bale Rooney Di Maria
CF
RB CB CB LB
Blind Herrera
Bale Rooney Di Maria
CF
I guess what I'm really asking is, is Bale worth losing De Gea for? Everyone knows how difficult it is to find a world class goalkeeper who could be your #1 for over a decade. Will De Gea want to return to Spain, due to it being his homeland, eventually? I don't know.
It's a tough choice, but I'd say to stick with De Gea. If we are really after Bale, which I doubt it, and Madrid are willing to sell, which I doubt it, then I hope De Gea will not be involved at all in the deal.
Id vote for option 2 even if we had Ben Amos in the goal, purely because 4231 is miles better then this shitty 41212
Or option 3?
-----------Valdes------------
Asettledback4don'tcarewho
-----------Blind-------------
-----Herrera-Di Maria------
---Depay----------Bale-----
----------Rooney------------
-----------Valdes------------
Asettledback4don'tcarewho
-----------Blind-------------
-----Herrera-Di Maria------
---Depay----------Bale-----
----------Rooney------------
As far as keeping De Gea goes, if Utd turned down the offer and it meant De Gea stayed until he retired then you'd say fair enaugh, but realistically it would be for 2/3 years then he's off.
Would keeping him for a few more years be worth more than potentially missing out on Bale? If he went to Chelsea / City it would be a nightmare.
Hazard...... Costa....... Bale
Silva.......Aguero.......Bale
Of course Utd would be in for him regardless of selling David but just putting the scenario out there. We'd miss out on both Reus and Bale since Reus would be his replacement at Madrid.
Not having any realistic alternatives out there would be my worry
Would keeping him for a few more years be worth more than potentially missing out on Bale? If he went to Chelsea / City it would be a nightmare.
Hazard...... Costa....... Bale
Silva.......Aguero.......Bale
Of course Utd would be in for him regardless of selling David but just putting the scenario out there. We'd miss out on both Reus and Bale since Reus would be his replacement at Madrid.
Not having any realistic alternatives out there would be my worry
Dave has been great for the last 18 months but if we have to lose him in order to get Bale then I will drive him to the airport myself (as long as its Manchester or Liverpool)
Like the look of that, or maybe Rooney in midfield next to Di Maria and RVP as lone striker, but that team will have lots of pace in/creativity in midfield and should be pretty solid at the back.
Or you could have:-
-----------Valdes------------
Asettledback4don'tcarewho
-----------Blind-------------
------Rooney----Bale------
---Depay----------Di Maria-----
------------RVP------------
Bale was great for Spurs in a central area in his last season.
Would love to see Bale here, an actual attacking improvement for sure, however not at the cost of Super Dave, he's one of the very few I'd consider a true red still in the squad, will be unhappy if he leaves regardless of who replaces him. And still, I can't help but think Bale isn't the type of player we're desperate for.
I just think we're not really solving anything if we're going to continue playing Di Maria wide, but paying god knows what for Bale only to play him where Di Maria is most effective. Plus i really like Herrera, and would prefer to see Rooney up front.
Off the top of my head more than capable replacements could be
Begovic, Lloris, Leno and handanovic. These don't have the youth de gea has but they are more than capable keepers.
The impact he would have on our snail slow attack would be huge.
Erm Leno is younger than de gea
All these line-ups with the Blind/Herrera/Di Maria midfield trio are a waste of time, LvG barely plays Herrera as it is and has seemingly decided that Di Maria can't play in midfield in this league unless it's in the 3-5-2 with the safety net. The fact is it's a midfield built for La Liga but too weak for the PL, and you might as well factor in his boy Strootman to any fantasy line-ups as he is more likely than Bale, Pogba or any other more exciting signing.
He would have done sod all today. Exactly the sort of game he goes missing, no space whatsoever to play in and players doubling up every time anyone gets their head up.
Just keep one of RVP/Falcao and start Rooney up top as our main striker next year.
Rooney
Di Maria-----Mata-------Bale
Herrera-------Blind
Shaw-----Rojo-----Jones-----Rafael
Valdes
Di Maria-----Mata-------Bale
Herrera-------Blind
Shaw-----Rojo-----Jones-----Rafael
Valdes
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Whats the point of Bale(and I'm a fan). I just dont see how he fits in with our current approach.
Only Madrid could stop us having him. He would fit in with LVG's philosophy too.
If Bale is available and we don't want to sell De Gea, we will still be able to stump up the cash for Bale. Just because De Gea stays doesn't mean we can't buy him.
We have more urgent needs than splashing 100m on him to be honest, some of the needs can't be bought with Money either.
Didn't think it was worthy of a new thread:
http://m.skysports.com/article/sports/9684182
"I can't see myself at Manchester United."
http://m.skysports.com/article/sports/9684182
"I can't see myself at Manchester United."
Good, hopefully it puts these stupid rumors to bed.
Bale revealed his love for Real goes back to his childhood. “I liked watching Real Madrid on TV,” he said. “They always had the best players and played the best football.
^ Why Real always get the best players. It's momentum.
^ Why Real always get the best players. It's momentum.
Its because they're the biggest, and most glamorous, club in football. With an endless supply of money to spend on new players.
Good, let's go get Marco Reus instead.
Booed again today.
Despite what Bale says, I don't think Madrid will be all that fussy for keeping him in the summer. No one in England can afford to pay the sort of £££ needed to buy him except us.
Despite what Bale says, I don't think Madrid will be all that fussy for keeping him in the summer. No one in England can afford to pay the sort of £££ needed to buy him except us.
which will make us stupid if we do pay it especially if Madrid no longer want him.
Why are they booing him?
The fans don't seem to like him for some reason, he'll be pushed out of the club pretty soon no doubt about it.
Past two summers they have got big money for unwanted players so don't expect any bargains this summer....
Don't think his link play with team mates is very good and it stands out when he plays for them, he has great end product which but his general game isn't really up to scratch at times. Think the fans are getting on his back if he misses good chances or doesn't set up team mates. They are a tough audience to please!
Real fans are unbelievable, if true. Scored in the Champions League final in his first season just 8 months ago and always speaks of his desire to stay at the club.
Not all, but a lot of Madrid fans are stupid. Who's the intelligent one? Probably the one who just settled for calling him a useless wanker. I don't like them as a club and again it's not all the fans, but the club have imposed themselves in the minds of lots of supporters and they just cannot be rational. They won 4-1 and booed a player? It's a nonsense. If Bale wants to play for a club with fickle fans, good luck to him..
I do think Ronaldo has quite a bit to answer for in regards to Bale. The guy went a long way to winning him two medals last season, despite his own minimal input even into the final he was fit to play in. Imagine the pressure Ronaldo would have faced if he'd done that much scoring, but disappeared in the Champions League final defeat to Atletico Madrid, having also lost the title to them. Probably wouldn't have won the Ballon d'or either and we know how much he loves those too. Not to mention the countless goals Bale set him up to score, compared to very few going back the other way.
Ever since his huff, the fans are booing Bale and the media criticising him. Even booing the very next game after he created both and scored the late winner in a 2-1 win, while Ronaldo got sent off and nearly wrecked Real Madrid's season with what for most players would have been a 6 match ban.
10 goals this season after 20 games. Scoring a worldie winner against Barcelona and arguably the second most important goal in Real Madrid's history after the Ramos one half an hour before, in his first season at the club. Team winning 4-1 to take a lead in La Liga with a game in hand. Only at Real Madrid eh.
I know his general play hasn't been as crisp as you'd want it, but it's frankly ridiculous and anyone that uses that as a reason to suggest Bale's having a rubbish season or isn't still a long way better than a whole load of attacking midfielders with the most bountiful reputations, is a long way off the mark.
Ever since his huff, the fans are booing Bale and the media criticising him. Even booing the very next game after he created both and scored the late winner in a 2-1 win, while Ronaldo got sent off and nearly wrecked Real Madrid's season with what for most players would have been a 6 match ban.
10 goals this season after 20 games. Scoring a worldie winner against Barcelona and arguably the second most important goal in Real Madrid's history after the Ramos one half an hour before, in his first season at the club. Team winning 4-1 to take a lead in La Liga with a game in hand. Only at Real Madrid eh.
I know his general play hasn't been as crisp as you'd want it, but it's frankly ridiculous and anyone that uses that as a reason to suggest Bale's having a rubbish season or isn't still a long way better than a whole load of attacking midfielders with the most bountiful reputations, is a long way off the mark.
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The booing is obviously not right, but despite his output being good, Bale has had a really disappointing season. Often not involved in games, dodgy touch, sometimes a bit selfish (not to the extent the media say though). He hasn't kicked on the way people expected after his good debut season.
They don't deserve the players they have and continue to get. Sad really.
Madrid fans are the epitome of spoiled twats
Bite my head off but I'm not keen on Bale at all. Yes, we need players with speed but surely there are other players who won't cost what Bale will? I just think, and as someone else said, his overall game is lacking and he's not good enough individually for me to want him at United.
If we changed to 433 and he replicated his final Spurs season then he would be worth it. It'd be nice to have a 15+ league scorer that's not a striker.
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