Going by the way van Gaal does formations and player positions, wouldn't surprise me to see Bale play Cb on the left side, being left footed and all that...
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He would have even got more from our muppet CEO, and I don't think he will be too happy seeing Bale back in the PL.
Pointless though as I don't want him anyway, especially not at DDG's expense.
They can have De Gea for a straight swap.
De Gea could play for the next 12 years at top level. Bale's game is built around pace which will probably deteriorate in the next 5 years.
50-60m is what we should be looking to pay for Bale. Done nothing more than Di Maira did at Madrid. We paid 20m for De Gea, his value has at least doubled, if not tripled.
De Gea could play for the next 12 years at top level. Bale's game is built around pace which will probably deteriorate in the next 5 years.
50-60m is what we should be looking to pay for Bale. Done nothing more than Di Maira did at Madrid. We paid 20m for De Gea, his value has at least doubled, if not tripled.
you're on the money here
You could argue De Geas game is built on reflexes, he could go the way of Casillas and be past his prime by 31 odd.
He was the best player in the PL and one of Madrid's best players last year despite having moved to a new league with a massive price tag around his neck.
How anyone can suggest they wouldn't want him here I don't know.
Exactly this. Bale would fit into a team that plays with pace and at the moment LVG seems to have taken that out of this United team. If Bale came into this team I think we would have another Di Maria scenario- a great player not being utilised to their full potential. DDG on the other hand is worth so many points to usat the moment that we should concentrate on keeping him rather than letting him walk off to Madrid. Bale would have been great in a Fergie team but not in this dull style of play that we are being served at the moment.
Hood goalies are easy to replace?
We must've just been fecking about between Schmeichel and Van der Sar.
Keeping hold of David is integral to our return to the top. You just don't see great teams with weak keepers.
We must've just been fecking about between Schmeichel and Van der Sar.
Keeping hold of David is integral to our return to the top. You just don't see great teams with weak keepers.
Because I rate DDG very highly and wouldn't want to swap him for anyone in the world, let alone for Bale.
I'd rather give the 50 million to De Gea to make him stay. He's more vital to us than Bale would be at the moment. Once we go to a 4-3-3 or 4-4-2 we look good going forward so we aren't desperate for another top player up there. We need a defence more than anything.
Until this summer when we take Lloris as a DDG replacement as part of the Bale deal.
I wouldn't swap De Gea for anyone.
Agree completely.
If we desperately need attacking players when we already have Falcao, RvP, Rooney, Di Maria, Mata then it is a utilisation problem, not a personnel issue.
Fair enough. I think we are almost on the same page but I believe we need superior defenders and most importantly a keeper to the likes of Madrid etc to compete with them and also do well in the league. Letting go of someone who could be top 3 in the world for the next 8 plus years is a step back. I think keepers are far harder to replace than outfielders where you have many options including different formations.
I definitely see Bale returning to England in the future, and we do seem to be one of the more likely destinations. I just hope it A) isn't for the prices quoted and B) doesn't see DDG going the other way.
All this talk about De Gea to Real Madrid seems unusual considering he is an Atletico lad. How do we know he would consider Real?
We don't and he keeps saying in the media that he is happy, as well as showing his passion on the pitch. Pessimists are out on force nowadays.
A newspaper said so.
On a side note maybe also worth considering that it only makes sense for DDG to move to RM in the summer if Casillas is definitely gone, otherwise he might be sitting on their bench and therefore not even making the Euro 2016 squad.
Well the pessimism mainly stems from the fact that Real seems very interested in the player and his contract is entering his final year without there being any talks about an extension at all. Of course it might all be hot air and he signs a new contract in the summer but letting the contract of a top players run down to it's last year is never a good idea imo. as from that point out the player is pretty much in command of negotiations as well as the fact that prices for players in the last year usually drop really hard.
Don't know why people are so against De Gea going the other way if it means us getting Bale.
De Gea is not irreplaceable & Bale has potential to do Ronaldo shit for us in the PL, the kind of stuff he was doing for Spurs was something the PL hasn't seen since Ronaldo left England.
Personally i woudn't like De Gea to leave, if it was possible United could sign Bale, i'd rather we do it with cash.
But any player exchange deal involving De Gea wouldn't make us weaker, it would make us stronger.
De Gea is not irreplaceable & Bale has potential to do Ronaldo shit for us in the PL, the kind of stuff he was doing for Spurs was something the PL hasn't seen since Ronaldo left England.
Personally i woudn't like De Gea to leave, if it was possible United could sign Bale, i'd rather we do it with cash.
But any player exchange deal involving De Gea wouldn't make us weaker, it would make us stronger.
Would be a sensation here exactly what we need a dribbler with pace and some magic! Sign the lad up!!
Tired of being Madrid's bitch. We always seem to get shafted either way. Bale for £120m is silly money and any cash plus DDG deal will confirm my suspicions the club is run by idiots.
If we let DDG go we would be fecking idiots. Bale is good, but with FFP very few if any clubs will be in for Bale. I wouldn't pay more than 55M for him. Just because Madrid were stupid does not mean everyone else should be.
I would rather have Modric than Bale
Why would anyone think DDG with 12 months remaining on his contract would be involved in a straight swap with Bale is very odd.
This. He is one of the few members of the current squad that i am really attached to, probably because he came to us young and has grown with us.
Too many of the rest feel a bit like mercenaries.
It wouldn't, for same reason that your screwed-up transfer policy of recent windows has seen you drop out of the top 4 and now be stuck in a very tight struggle to get back in this season despite spending vast amounts of money, namely that it focuses on the wrong areas of the pitch/team.
It's your defence and CM that remains most in need of improvement (not adding more and more attacking players) ... selling De Gea will only weaken your defence further because you won't be able to get/sign an equally good replacement.
If only our transfer policy was as faultless as Spurs. If only eh?
Well this is the thing we have to consider, if it gets to Summer and we are no closer to a new deal for De Gea then we may have to look at potential deals like the Bale one quoted. Obviously we would have to add a lot of cash to based on the fact that DDG only has a year left. I'm sure by Summer one way or the other we will probably know if he I'd going to stay or not, hopefully he will.
Bale, Wilson and Di Maria on the break 
Not getting our Dave though!
Not getting our Dave though!
I would seriously hesitate to offer De Gea in a straight swap for Bale, so the thought of adding 50 million to it is just moronic.
Doesn't make him any less right. We have one piece of the team working perfectly... The keeper. Let's leave that alone and fix what needs to be fixed.
You know how you can tell were in a transfer window? Because newspapers have us linked with a 'swap' deal.
Seriously, does anyone buy this shit? When was the last time a major club participated in a swap deal. Other than Ibrahimovic and Eto'o, I can't think of any others. Nothing to see here. Bale might come to us, De Gea might leave us. It sure as hell won't be in a swap deal.
Seriously, does anyone buy this shit? When was the last time a major club participated in a swap deal. Other than Ibrahimovic and Eto'o, I can't think of any others. Nothing to see here. Bale might come to us, De Gea might leave us. It sure as hell won't be in a swap deal.
I wouldn't be stunned if a part of the deal to buy De Gea is that Madrid have to buy Anderson and make him club vice president. If it involves Real Madrid, basic logic shouldn't be used.
You could get a job working for The Sun with logic like that.
Name an available goalie to replace him.
I would presume valdes
The only way I would include De Gea as part of any Bale deal(or for any other player for that matter would be if was absolutely set on leaving us in the near future.
If that's the case and him going to Madrid is inevitable then sure why not get Bale out of it.Otherwise tie him down long term asap.
If that's the case and him going to Madrid is inevitable then sure why not get Bale out of it.Otherwise tie him down long term asap.
Totally agree.
Can't see the improvement that Bale would make to our left side. No doubt has proved to be an excellent player, but 1) I don't see the need, 2) He is not worth anywhere near what real madrid paid for him.
I don't believe many clubs will be after Bale, so Madrid do not have the power to dictate such an excessive fee.
A goalkeeper is a goalkeeper at the end of the day, as a long as you've got a relatively experienced goalkeeper and not a clown who's error prone its the least important area on the pitch, put it this way, if someone wants to swap one of the best outfielders in the world for a goalkeeper, you do it.
Also good as De Gea's potential is, he's been a little over hyped these past 2 months or so.
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