Probably because some of us are always judging other clubs, actions on the transfer market. Now they fear to receive the same treatment.
Gareth Bale
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Probably because some of us are always judging other clubs, actions on the transfer market. Now they fear to receive the same treatment.
Bale would be great for United. Can picture Di Maria pinging the ball out to him. Not only capable of assists but a very good set piece taker. If he can get 20+ goals a season with his pace it will be worth the fee because it'll be squeezing more out of other players.
Did Isco have a buyout clause?
He did (all Spanish players do) but the consensus seems to be that they agreed a deal for below that amount.
If he's so overrated why did the biggest club in the world break the transfer record for him? Why were United also ready to do so?
Guy is a proven match winner that will get gals and points, guaranteed.
Guy is a proven match winner that will get gals and points, guaranteed.
From a LWB position ? Now that would be something.
Because Real needed some star and couldn't get Neymar, who was their first choice. He is overrated. Last season at Tottehnam, most of the games I watched, he was actually average (in some he was really good, but mostly average, or less), but he had all the freedom and was taking a lot of shots and then one would go in and suddenly he is great.
Now, he is great for counter attacking football, but he just isn't worth 100mil, or even close to it, as he isn't that hard to stop if the defense is deeper and he doesn't have space to run.
Can't we just have both?
Cheeky finish to put madrid 2 up.
I'd love us to sign him just because it would be a slap to the faces of the la Liga sky commentators who think there is no reason what so ever to leave madrid.
I'd love us to sign him just because it would be a slap to the faces of the la Liga sky commentators who think there is no reason what so ever to leave madrid.
That's the most absurd thing I have heard. De Gea + 50 million for Gareth fecking Bale? They should give us Bale and 50 million to even think about it.
He hasn't impressed me much over the past couple of months to pay the fee that Madrid did, let alone £120 million
I'd love having bale here, but for this kind of money it's just wrong. The team would be better off with 2 centre backs, 1 right back, 1 midfielder and with sales we could fund buying another quality forward. We don't need a galactico signing at the moment.
I kind of agree with this, if it allows Van Gaal to play 4-4-2 or 4-5-1 in a balanced formation with Carrick, Blind and Herrera in some combination as the two in midfield.
Di Maria with more freedom to lose the ball and be creative. Rooney pushed further up.
If you use Di Maria's pace effectively and have an extra goal scorer in there, you don't need Bale. But he does provides both in one player.
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What a horrendous deal that would be for us. Losing a world class player, for a good winger, and a £50 million hit.
Madness.
I can actually see something like that happening, DDG + cash for Bale. The thought of losing DDG no matter who we get in exchange is just sickening.
A "Good winger".
Yeah, that's all Bale is.
not the world's most expensive player, who helped Real win the Euro cup last year whilst ripping up the scene.
I think you'll find that statistically Bale absolutely destroys De Gea so it's a no brainer.
If our read on the DDG situation is he's going to leave soon, then we might as well use him to our advantage to try and get Bale.
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It's about time keepers' values reflected their contributions to teams. DDG straight swap with Bale or Real Madrid can feck off.
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The only "plus" will be to show Levy: "So you don't want us to sell your best player? No worries, we'll get him anyway via RM!"
Having said that I don't even want him on free if it means we are keeping DDG!
Having said that I don't even want him on free if it means we are keeping DDG!
Swap deals almost never happen but I get the feeling this one is inevitable. Madrid have already started the games around Bale....as Di Maria and Ozil well know.
'Statistically Bale absolutely destroys De Gea', What does that even mean?
De Gea is one of the three best keepers in the world. The only two that you could make an argument for being better are Neuer and Courtouis, and both of those are unattainable. So if De Gea leaves, any replacement sign will be a downgrade, no matter how you look at it. Whereas with Bale, as good as he is, is much more easily replaceable. In fact, if the rumours are true and Madrid replace him with £20 million Reus, then they would arguably be getting a better player anyway. If on top of that they get De Gea, and £50 million then they will probably have done the best bit of business in their history.
Their best bit of business was getting Ronaldo for £80m IMO.
It was a joke. 'luckyspurs' can't go three posts without mentioning stats, and Bale always seems to feature in them. There's no way I'd ever want us to sell De Gea at all - especially for Bale AND money.
We need De Gea more than Bale.
Indeed. He's the type of player who could be the difference in winning titles.
As great a keeper as De Gea is, we should not be reliant in him pulling us out of the mire. We should be building a defence that doesn't allow a keeper to make repeated world class saves.
And spunking a feck ton on Bale will sort our defence out? It'll take a huge hole out of our kitty and we'll end up with more imbalance in the side. Even we have limited funds.
Oh right, my bad. Apologies
Yeah, luckyspurs habit of posting stats that make our players, or any potential signings, look like utter crap is starting to really grate. Hiding behind this faux 'oh I like United, they're my 3rd favourire team' nonsense doesn't help either. He's basically glastonspur with numbers. Tbh, from all the 'stats' he's posted, its any wonder we're not in the relegation zone.
A defence like that plus De Gea equals champions league winners.
Where did I say that exactly?
Obviously other issues need to be resolved as well. Only an idiot would think otherwise.
I'd rather we weren't reliant on a keeper pulling off strings of saves to keep us afloat. To that end we clearly need to invest in the defence. But we also need something else going forward for me, as we lack pace.
The point here is that we might be able to get a player like Bale for a decent sum and invest elsewhere as well. Given that we have another very good keeper at the club some might think that would be good business overall and improve the team generally.
Not with our options going forward. We've not struggled at the back recently - it's our tumescent attacking play that's the problem.
Real Madrid didn't win the Champions League with a tight back 4 and world class keeper. They won it with Ronaldo, Bale and Di Maria ripping teams a new one going forward.
Do people still not see that the two are connected?
We've not struggled at the back because of the 3-5-2. Because we're trying to keep as much possession as possible, and keep it as compact as possible, in order to not expose our weak defence. As showed yesterday, the minute we open up, yes we look so much better going forward, but then we also look so much more open defensively. Thats the issue LVG has, and people keep missing.
I agree we are tumescent going forward but the reason for me stems from games like Leicester. The second we go all out and lose the ball the true frailties of our back line comes to light. There's zero trust with Evans and the others and rightly so. I'm so tired of seeing Valencia and Shaw not take on their men but I can see why when they know that if they lose the ball it's not going to end well.
You type a lot faster than me
The system is a huge issue for me - but regardless, we still lack real pace. Di Maria is the only player who has it in terms of ball at his feet and in opening teams up.
If we went to a 433 and had Di Maria on one side and Bale on the other we'd be great to watch.
And we'd leak goals unless we sure up the back 4.
As I said, the defence is an issue, but so is our attack.
For me losing De Gea and replacing him with Valdes is manageable given that the defence needs to be revamped anyway.
If losing De Gea brings in a world class player, who could easily be the best in the PL then alongside additions in defence I think that's good business.
Where have I said otherwise? I've repeatedly said we need to address issues at the back. That's obvious, but that doesn't solve all of our problems in my opinion.
Perhaps the club doesn't have the cash to buy Bale for cash and address the defence so using De Gea as a makeweight might allow them to do both.
Sell De Gea to get Bale and replace with him with Cech would be a ridiculous piece of business.
To me, the difference between a world class keeper and a great keeper are minimal. De Gea is a fantastic goalie but wouldn't be too difficult to replace IMO.
Getting someone of Bales calibre is extremely hard to achieve, getting him when he enters his prime would be too good to pass up
To me, the difference between a world class keeper and a great keeper are minimal. De Gea is a fantastic goalie but wouldn't be too difficult to replace IMO.
Getting someone of Bales calibre is extremely hard to achieve, getting him when he enters his prime would be too good to pass up
Levy doesn't want Spurs players withheld from Premier League teams; he just doesn't want to be seen as the one allowing it to happen directly. If you buy him now Levy couldn't give a toss, having got his £85m.
I quite like the policy if I'm honest. Why sell Modric and Bale for £135 and have to play both twice a year, when you can get £120 million and not have to do that.
We haven't sold a player we wanted to keep to a Premier League side since Berbatov anyway.
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