Gareth Bale

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I don't believe there's any chance we'll get Bale, but I do wish we could. He has always seemed like a perfect United player. Shame he didn't come to us instead of Madrid in the first place.
 
NoLogo said:
If I remember correctly his best season with Spurs was when he played behind the striker? He could be exactly what LvG is actually looking for in our system. He also has the pace that LvG says we need so much.

The main reason why I don't see Real selling Bale is that Ronaldo isn't getting any younger and they want Bale to probably fill his shoes once Ronaldo starts to decline. So it would probably take an insane bid by us to convince Real to sell him.
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We seemingly had £150m to spend this summer, and we've spent around £75m. We've also acquired over £50m+ in player sales, and the wages freed up. (All common knowledge obviously)

Given the above, I can see us making a bid close to £90m and add De Gea in as a sweetener.

We don't have the attacking options to win the league, currently.
Mata (27); Young (30); Depay (21); Januzaj (20); Rooney (29); Wilson (19); Hernandez (27) isn't good enough.
 
Captain Hindsight said:
We seemingly had £150m to spend this summer, and we've spent around £75m. We've also acquired over £50m+ in player sales, and the wages freed up. (All common knowledge obviously)

Given the above, I can see us making a bid close to £90m and add De Gea in as a sweetener.
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I don't think money is the issue. The club want to make a genuinely world class "marquee" signing this summer. Woodward has previously spoken about it, and Van Gaal has alluded to it talking about how he lacks a "game changer".

Bale represents a realistic target despite what people may think. His agent amking noises abot him wanting to stay is one thing - frankly he can hardly say anything else when asked. Privately he may well be happy to come back to the Premier League and if he did, United would potentially make the most sense. Likewise, Madrid may well be amenable to selling if a huge bid is made and it allows them to get De Gea, despite what they're saying in the press. A massive offer may be hard to turn down if the player wants the move.

As ever, it may come to nothing. But I wouldnt be surprise if it had legs.
 
A pipe dream to keep desperate United fans -- and there are a fair number of them -- hooked on the transfer pages.
 
RedRover said:
I don't think money is the issue. The club want to make a genuinely world class "marquee" signing this summer. Woodward has previously spoken about it, and Van Gaal has alluded to it talking about how he lacks a "game changer".
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Right now, money isn't an issue. However, if we keep repeating the ADM mistakes, then it'll be an issue. As I mentioned in my previous post, if we were to sign Bale and then try to convert him into something he's not, we could end up wasting a lot of money and eventually it'll bite us in the backside.

I'd like the club to spend big money here and there, but I'd also like them to be careful, too.
 
pierrethesnack said:
Would be gutted if we made such a deal. Best goalkeeper in the world + a Ronaldo-like fee for a Real Madrid flop?
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I think this as well. Bale is a great player but not worth in the region of what Ronaldo costs. Not even worth the amount Real payed for him. £60M + de Gea and I would already feel robbed but hell you gonna get robbed if you want great players.

Alternatively Reus would be a great buy for this position as well but he is just as unavailable this season as Bale I'm afraid.
 
Captain Hindsight said:
Right now, money isn't an issue. However, if we keep repeating the ADM mistakes, then it'll be an issue. As I mentioned in my previous post, if we were to sign Bale and then try to convert him into something he's not, we could end up wasting a lot of money and eventually it'll bite us in the backside.

I'd like the club to spend big money here and there, but I'd also like them to be careful, too.
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Why would you assume that Bale would be brought in as some kid of project player for Van Gaal to muck around with. Anyone with half a brain can see what qualities he has.

I think you've missed my point a bit. I'm not advocating the club going on some kind of Madrid-esque galactico spree. We do though need to be able to compete for top players and there is room in the squad now for a real top class player as it stands - esp[ecially one who offers something we currently, and noticably lack. The additions so far have been sensible and we're bringing good money in by moving on those surplus to requirements. It also seems that Januzaj and Perreria will have parts to play this year. I see no reason to be concerned as to the current attitude to transfers.
 
RedRover said:
Why would you assume that Bale would be brought in as some kid of project player for Van Gaal to muck around with. Anyone with half a brain can see what qualities he has.

I think you've missed my point a bit. I'm not advocating the club going on some kind of Madrid-esque galactico spree. We do though need to be able to compete for top players and there is room in the squad now for a real top class player as it stands - esp[ecially one who offers something we currently, and noticably lack. The additions so far have been sensible and we're bringing good money in by moving on those surplus to requirements. It also seems that Januzaj and Perreria will have parts to play this year. I see no reason to be concerned as to the current attitude to transfers.
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Because di Maria.

And I agree with the second paragraph.
 
prarek said:
Some of the reaction in here to Di Maria's performances may have been ott but surely you agree he wasn't great. Anyway about Bale i watched many games last season and ill try my best to explain. First of all this is not to bash him. I thought he was great in his first season and he is undoubtedly a top class player, there is no doubt about this.

Bale's overall game was just not good enough last season. Think about this, his passing was the worst in the entire squad, not just the first team. Only the keepers had a worst passing percentage. Both James and Bale have just about the same number of goals and assists. James plays further behind Bale in midfield. Despite this he creates more chances(2.5) than Bale(1.5) and takes fewer shots and obviously does way more defensively. Bale also averages the third highest shots to games ratio in the league, only Messi and Ronaldo take more shots. Bale scored 13 goals in 103 shots, Benzema scored 15 goals in 69 shots. So while Bale's end product doesn't seem bad at all his contribution in every other area is below par. Bale is also often the least involved player. For all this to be excusable his end product has to be as good as Ronaldo or Messi and its not. I dare say Hernandez could have score more goals with the amount of chances they create. Bale was also easy sussed out in tight areas and gave the ball away consistently.

Also Real Madrid lost the league by 2 points. By midway through the season they were comfortably leading the table by about 7 points, so what happened? The problem last season was that Real Madrid were flat track bullies. They spanked the small teams but struggled in the big games.

La Liga top 4 Head-to-Head league

1. Barcelona - 15 points
2. Atletico Madrid - 9 points
3. Valencia - 7 points
4. Real Madrid - 4 points

They beat Barcelona in the beginning of the season but then lost every game against the top 4 opposition apart from one draw. Playing both Bale and Ronaldo in the big games has been like playing with 9 men. Its fine against smaller teams but in the big games it has back fired time and again.Their record in the big games eventually cost them the title. In Ronaldo's defense he scores an insane amount of goals. Bale was undoubtedly the weak link in that team last season.
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I haven't watched Real enough to pass comments about Bale, so I'll trust your assessment. However from my experience about that wretched club I believe that they are slightly spoiled in terms of players. In matter of fact I find their supporters the anti typical Manchester United supporter and tbf equally annoying. The former would give standing ovations to managers who take the club at the 7th place and would spend ages moaning because they are losing a homegrown striker who cant score goal, a right back who spend much of the time in the treatment room and a fat Brazilian who scored a penalty in the CL final. The latter remind me of that spoiled girl in the Willy wonka film. They always seek that new shiny toy and lets face it, some Welsh guy who spend his career first at Liverpool's feeder club and than at a team who is rated as a big club only by @GlastonSpur is hardly an inspiring toy especially since they could spend the money to get Neymar.

As I said I tend not to big British talent fan. In matter of fact I find the hype surrounding most of their players as hilarious if not tragic. Having said that, while stats do not give a complete picture of it they still offer a good picture of what a player can produce. Bale had been a goal and an assist machine for Real. He's not at the league of Ronaldo or Messi but he's certainly a great player. For United and the player's sake Id wish him to leave Real and return to real football ie at a club who rate talent instead of names
 
NoLogo said:
I think this as well. Bale is a great player but not worth in the region of what Ronaldo costs. Not even worth the amount Real payed for him. £60M + de Gea and I would already feel robbed but hell you gonna get robbed if you want great players.

Alternatively Reus would be a great buy for this position as well but he is just as unavailable this season as Bale I'm afraid.
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DDG is as good as gone and according to rumours he's ready to show his teeth to force the move. 60M + him for Bale would be far from ideal but at least it would mean bringing in a quality player without getting ourselves into something messy. I criticized United in the past years but surely we don't deserve to have our keeper showing us the middle finger just to force a move. If there's a way we can settle this with some dignity then we should take it.
 
NoLogo said:
I think this as well. Bale is a great player but not worth in the region of what Ronaldo costs. Not even worth the amount Real payed for him. £60M + de Gea and I would already feel robbed but hell you gonna get robbed if you want great players.

Alternatively Reus would be a great buy for this position as well but he is just as unavailable this season as Bale I'm afraid.
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It's better then paying £100m for Bale and De Gea leaving for free next season. No brainer surely?
 
psychdelicblues said:
I think United's need for Bale now is greater then the need to keep De Gea for one more season before he goes on a free.
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Maybe, for me it would depend on who replaced David. I haven't seen enough of Romero.

I'd rather have a guaranteed world class goalkeeper for one more season, than a potentially world class attacker and a shitty goalkeeper.
 
pierrethesnack said:
Maybe, for me it would depend on who replaced David. I haven't seen enough of Romero.

I'd rather have a guaranteed world class goalkeeper for one more season, than a potentially world class attacker and a shitty goalkeeper.
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Romero and Valdes are not shitty, plus I think we could sign a keeper anyway. The need to score more goals than we did last season is more than the need to conceed less. We have also reinforced midfield and got Darmian which will help us conceed less anyway.
 
If Bale 'suffers' a season like last season, then maybe next summer there would be a chance of bringing him in. But there's not a hope we are getting him this year. Our best chance is that the Madrid fans get on his back all season and Real get a new toy next summer (someone like Reus) and then maybe we can swoop and not be forced Into paying an insane fee.
 
Wrote this in the Adm thread:


Our net spend is now down to approx £27m(ish)

With £75m coming in this Summer from Adidas alone, it's probable United will have £100m+ available to spend should they want to.

With 3 key shirt sellers gone (Rvp, di Maria, Falcao) it is difficult to imagine that the corporate side of Manchester United will be happy going into the new season with no "marquee" poster-boy name to sell shirts.

I strongly anticipate United are chasing Gareth Bale behind the scenes.

With the money left to spend, and the wages cleared. He'd be easily afforded too.
 
For Bale to be sold to us during this window, Madrid would need to get a galactico replacement and the only one remotely available is Reus. Apart from their unwillingness to part ways with him there simply aren't that many available big name attacking footballers worthy to replace Bale.

No chance.
 
We'd be stupid not to be questioning his availability.

We do need a superstar and Bale would fit the profile.
 
Kevin said:
For Bale to be sold to us during this window, Madrid would need to get a galactico replacement and the only one remotely available is Reus. Apart from their unwillingness to part ways with him there simply aren't that many available big name attacking footballers worthy to replace Bale.

No chance.
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What about De Bruyne maybe?
 
Cassidy said:
We should be all over it, can't let City have a free run at him
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I was more hinting that De Bruyne could be a potential replacement for Bale at Madrid as he seems available for £50m. I know they're not similar position wise, but he is the fresh kid on the block and that could tempt ol' Perez?
 
dwd said:
I was more hinting that De Bruyne could be a potential replacement for Bale at Madrid as he seems available for £50m. I know they're not similar position wise, but he is the fresh kid on the block and that could tempt ol' Perez?
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Hmmm I'd rather we got him instead and Pedro... but yes not a bad idea
 
LawCharltonBest said:
Wrote this in the Adm thread:


Our net spend is now down to approx £27m(ish)

With £75m coming in this Summer from Adidas alone, it's probable United will have £100m+ available to spend should they want to.

With 3 key shirt sellers gone (Rvp, di Maria, Falcao) it is difficult to imagine that the corporate side of Manchester United will be happy going into the new season with no "marquee" poster-boy name to sell shirts.

I strongly anticipate United are chasing Gareth Bale behind the scenes.

With the money left to spend, and the wages cleared. He'd be easily afforded too.
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We can chase all we want, as long as Real Madrid don't want rid of their record signing yet they'll demand a fee even we can't or won't pay. It won't happen this season, he's Perez's pet and galactico. They can't replace him either at the moment so we'll have different targets than Bale.
 
Perez loves him. There's absolutely zero change he'll let him go this Summer. Maybe in 2-3 years when he gets bored but certainly not now.
 
Wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if we're messing around on this dead end deal instead of actually getting a CB and realistic players.
 
devilish said:
DDG is as good as gone and according to rumours he's ready to show his teeth to force the move. 60M + him for Bale would be far from ideal but at least it would mean bringing in a quality player without getting ourselves into something messy. I criticized United in the past years but surely we don't deserve to have our keeper showing us the middle finger just to force a move. If there's a way we can settle this with some dignity then we should take it.
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How can de gea show his teeth if real havent even submited a bid for him yet?
 
United are obviously interested in Bale, but he wants to succeed at Real.
Because of his poor form last season, unpopularity with the fans, and the prospect of getting all their money back, as well as their desire to sign De Gea, it means that there is a chance of us getting Bale.
The big factor could be if he has terrible games until the end of the transfer window, and Real start badly. That may be enough for real to get their money back from Bale, and sign sign De Gea, as well as a Bale replacement.
 
stevoc said:
You really think he would refuse to play?

Where has this story of him refusing to play to force a move came from anyway?
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Madrid press. The usual muck spreading they do every time Real want a player. Apparently there was a poll and we don't want him and he fears we'll whistle him as well. Typical garbage.
 
psychdelicblues said:
It's better then paying £100m for Bale and De Gea leaving for free next season. No brainer surely?
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Doesn't matter that it's too much money for Bale if you factor in de Gea. Naturally with de Gea's contract running out there is no way we can win but I'm rather afraid that Madrid will ask for £90M + de Gea or something like that.

Well in the end Woody is the one who needs to decide what we are willing to spend on a player like Bale and naturally Bale has to be willing to come here. So far I haven't heard much about him wanting a move here anyways.
 
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