You'd be happy if we spent 90-100m pounds on Bale?
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We shouldn't really spend our time in the Gareth Bale thread talking only about Ronaldo, but boy oh boy was that my favourite season which I can remember, mainly for the fact that Ronaldo was utterly brilliant. I forgot how many free kicks he scored in that season alone too!! There were more than 5 as far as I can remember (forgot to count), just an amazing player. The scariest part is that that isn't even his peak, and he got even better.
Go and find him on the player list on the official website and you might have a point.
Wouldnt it be weird if the number of pages on this thread landed at the same price he goes for.
Why? They spent 80 million on Ronaldo and have 1 league trophy in 4 years to show for it. What would you consider being worth it for Bale? Barcelona are not going away anytime soon. The price is mental, and I'm glad we haven't tried to sign him.
I don't get why people would be so concerned how much we spent on a player.
Accountancy, it's the new football.
Aye unless we were in financial trouble I couldn't give a shit.
I always want the best British players to play for United. Hopefully, this move doesn't start a trend of the best British players going abroad too.
Who was the last one? Owen? Hardly represents a trend, does it.
He didn't say there was one.
In regards to Bale, I think this is madness, but I am still for some reason not convinced he will even leave Spurs this summer.
Ok, so why on earth would it start a trend? Are Real going to spend £94m on another British player next season?
Spanish fans should be the ones worrying. Their players are moving abroad in droves.
I don't think people care. But they assume the management does. Which is a fair point. And hence discuss the basis on what United would/ should be willing to pay
Worrying? The depth is so great that they are now exporting their talent because the last I checked, the key La Roja players are still all in La Liga.
Only those Spanish players who can't get into Real and Barcelona move abroad.
Well a few questions were "would you want us to pay that much?" or along those lines.
As a fan, I'm not concerned with that. That's, as you say, management's job.
Spot on. The reason there are loads moving away is that they're producing so many players - like Brazil have done for decades. Nothing at all for Spain to be worried about - the best players will always go to Real or Barca.
I thought it was a silly comment initially from him, I was just clarifying what he said.In regards to future trends, I don't think Bale will change a bloody thing, I personally don't think he will go this season.
They can carry on the trend with Rooney, if the trend is to spend more than people are worth.
I'd say they're exporting because most of them of the money need. The Spanish national team being great gives almost no indication to how worrying things are in la Liga.
And you don't see that as an issue in itself?
You are trying to dismiss a comment about the problems in Spanish football by highlighting the worst symptom of that problem , funding inequality, that is eating away at the professional game.
The fault with that argument would be that the biggest talents would then obviously go for more money outside of Spain...yet, they remain.
As someone already pointed out, outside of the big two there isn't a big incentive, financially or competitively, to remain in La Liga.
Most Spanish clubs not called Real Madrid or Barcelona are in some sort of financial difficulties. And this is at a time when they are producing their best generation of players. Of course, there are problems in Spanish football, more to do with money distribution than actual football, and a big portion of the blame can be attributed to Real and Barcelona's refusal to go for a combined TV deal. I am well aware of all of that.
I am talking more about how most players see playing for Real Madrid as the pinnacle of their club careers. It has always been the case and Real almost always gobble up the most exciting talents that they want.
I am talking more about how most players see playing for Real Madrid as the pinnacle of their club careers. It has always been the case and Real almost always gobble up the most exciting talents that they want.
Yes, at Barcelona and Madrid. There are only two players in the current Spain squad who play in a Spanish side outside of the top two clubs - Koke and Inigo Martinez. 8 play for Barca or Madrid. 10 play outside of Spain.
Compare to the German team. 4 play for German teams other than Dortmund or Bayern. 9 play for the top two German clubs. 7 play outside of Germany - half as many as in the Spain squad.
And the England team (a worse quality side so the comparison may be less useful, but here it is anyway). 15 players outside the top two. 8 playing for United or City. None playing outside of England.
Obviously Barca and Madrid are still strong, but there's a massive talent drain going on in the rest of the league.
EDIT: The squad sizes of those three national teams are different, so here's how the numbers look as percentages:
Spain:
-Top two: 40%
-Other Spanish clubs: 10%
-Playing abroad: 50%
(4 Spanish clubs represented)
Germany:
-Top two: 45%
-Other German clubs: 20%
-Playing abroad: 35%
(5 German clubs represented)
England:
-Top two: 35%
-Other English clubs: 65%
-Playing abroad: 0%
(10 English clubs represented)
Who are those just out of curiosity ? The ones I automatically think of already belong to Barca and Real.
Pretty simple reason for me. We have "X quid" to spend on players. If we overspend on one then we can't go for others.
But the management know that, you don't. If they spend heavily on one player, it would suggest they either have money still for others, or think that player is the piece we need would it not?
The Spanish players who can't get into Real-Barca move abroad.
The English players who can't get in the top3 play in the Championship
The English players who can't get in the top3 play in the Championship
Exactly. Some people actually think that the people running a multi-million pound football club would accidently overspend and then think "Shit - we can't buy anymore players now".
They'll be well aware of what money is avialble, where they need to strengthen and the targets and what they're preapred to pay - and will have been planning what's going to happen for months before hand. To think anything otherwise is madness.
There's a stage being erected (snigger) at the Bernabeu apparently.
Bale will have something to dive off, then.
For Ronaldo to say goodbye
You'd be happy if we spent 90-100m pounds on Bale?
I think you'll find we could have got him for a lot less earlier from Southampton but we cocked it up.
The interesting thing today in Spain is that we have two completely different deals being discussed.
One led by the Marca family says, the deal is 99m Euros and Bale will get 10m Euros net pa. The most expensive player in the world, with the salary basically putting him just behind the Ronaldo/Kaka/Messi/Neymar cluster.
Meanwhile the AS family say, the deal is for 90m Euros and Bales gets 10m quid gross, 5m Euros net. Placing him in the Benzema, Ramos, Casillas group.
As a media watch, it'll be interesting to see which group are right. Ah OK, it's only interesting to me
One led by the Marca family says, the deal is 99m Euros and Bale will get 10m Euros net pa. The most expensive player in the world, with the salary basically putting him just behind the Ronaldo/Kaka/Messi/Neymar cluster.
Meanwhile the AS family say, the deal is for 90m Euros and Bales gets 10m quid gross, 5m Euros net. Placing him in the Benzema, Ramos, Casillas group.
As a media watch, it'll be interesting to see which group are right. Ah OK, it's only interesting to me
We cocked nothing up, he just chose Spurs over us to get more game time.
FFS, this has to be a WUM, surely?What next, are people going to blame us for not completing the signing of EVERY talented youngster int he world?
This is a strange position to take. This is a forum to discuss such matters. Players, their values and how they would fit in. Why leave cost/value out? There are several examples of us overpaying on a player and others where we are robbing the selling club. Countless other overpayments by other clubs. Carroll? Do you think spending 35M on him was normal? I bet that stopped them buying a few others for a while. Take a look at the current title thread as another example!
If we spent crazy money on a player we'd have a United tax added to every player after that.
How is it strange? I've not said don't discuss it have I? What is it we are doing exactly?
I understand the fears about the 'United tax' and all that, but the fact is his price is already that high thanks to Real. If we were to go in, match it and then take him, of course I'd think it was a high price but I wouldn't be unhappy because of that.
You are right, you didn't say don't discuss. Anyhow, you know my position on it. We have a finite sum of money to spend so it matters to me. In this instance I would be unhappy because I think we'd be ignoring other areas if we spunked nearly 100M on him.
Again that's you assuming you know how much we have though.
I'm not saying I disagree with the other areas part at all, but for fans to pretty much say they'd be 'unhappy' at the price seems odd to me.
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