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This is the most predictable, and at the same time utterly stupid signing since Fellaini. We have been shocking in big transfers (bar Pogba) but this has potential to go as one of the worst signings of all time in football.

Bale has never been as good as the media in England portrayed him (although he might have been a top 10 player for a couple of seasons) and has been totally dependent on speed and power. With those things gone, he is a nothing player. Additionally, he is a crock who is payed around 600k per week. In a 5 year contract, he will earn 150m and even Madrid sells him for 'just' 50m, his total cost will be over 200m.

Maradona said that he would have given Bale for free, and this is one of the cases when he is right.
 
This is the most predictable, and at the same time utterly stupid signing since Fellaini. We have been shocking in big transfers (bar Pogba) but this has potential to go as one of the worst signings of all time in football.

Bale has never been as good as the media in England portrayed him (although he might have been a top 10 player for a couple of seasons) and has been totally dependent on speed and power. With those things gone, he is a nothing player. Additionally, he is a crock who is payed around 600k per week. In a 5 year contract, he will earn 150m and even Madrid sells him for 'just' 50m, his total cost will be over 200m.

Maradona said that he would have given Bale for free, and this is one of the cases when he is right.

The cheating fat feck is on crack, so there is that .
 
Anyone who hasn't looked at his Madrid injury history, please do. Someone has posted it previously. It is horrific. Not his fault, but really awful. Madrid has the squad to leverage his absence. We don't. How can this be an option? I really hope we look at other options. We need all our stars as we see what happens when Pogba doesn't play. The Bale ship has sailed
 
Will be our greatest transfer mistake in modern times if we go through with the signing, and that is saying something considering our record lately.
 
It's a bit worrying that Mourinho wants him, or at least did in the summer. Hopefully the board sees sense with this one. Considering his wages, his age and his injury record, I don't think it's worth even paying more than a minimal transfer fee for him.
 
It's a bit worrying that Mourinho wants him, or at least did in the summer. Hopefully the board sees sense with this one. Considering his wages, his age and his injury record, I don't think it's worth even paying more than a minimal transfer fee for him.
Why inflate our hospital bills
 
I think Madrid is willing to sell him due to his ridiculous injury record, and we are the only club who wants and ready to buy him for about 4 5 years now so it's pretty much predictable, for me when he is fit he is unbelievably great but most of times unfortunately is not fit so if the fee is no more than 50-60m then I would take the risk considering his massive wages too, other wise we better get some one else.
 
Cheeky Bale for De Gea+Martial swap deal incoming :cool:

Now that would be interesting for the caf :lol:

It's never happening i know, don't be that guy
 

There is no rational explanation, but Madrid have a lot of support in the country and often the captain or star of Madrid has been the leader in the national team. Iker, Raúl, Hierro, and also the fact that we would be accepting to stay with the bench goalkeeper.
Besides it´s important to keep a good amount of the best spanish players, the pillars of the team
 
He doesn't make a ton of sense in terms of us desperately needing deeper creativity than he provides or as a fit with Lukaku and Rashford and he's technically worse than basically every other Madrid player, but he's a very good fit as a Mourinho RW and he's basically a 1 in 2 winger over the last 6 years.

I can't see this being the prudent move but if we did I'd be excited and hey, if we'd gotten an injury plagued Robben in return for Cristiano instead of 25M of his fee, we might well have squeaked another Champions league. Difference is that Robben was 25 and Bale will be 29 this summer.
 
Cheeky Bale for De Gea+Martial swap deal incoming :cool:

Now that would be interesting for the caf :lol:

It's never happening i know, don't be that guy


I wouldn’t swap Martial for Bale, never mind David and feck your white text :lol:
 
He doesn't make a ton of sense in terms of us desperately needing deeper creativity than he provides or as a fit with Lukaku and Rashford and he's technically worse than basically every other Madrid player, but he's a very good fit as a Mourinho RW and he's basically a 1 in 2 winger over the last 6 years.

I can't see this being the prudent move but if we did I'd be excited and hey, if we'd gotten an injury plagued Robben in return for Cristiano instead of 25M of his fee, we might well have squeaked another Champions league. Difference is that Robben was 25 and Bale will be 29 this summer.

I never realized Robben was only 25 when he went to Bayern Munich. He seemed like he was around forever with different clubs in Europe .
 
I never realized Robben was only 25 when he went to Bayern Munich. He seemed like he was around forever with different clubs in Europe .

I actually remember watching his first team debut at Groningen (in the phase of watching practically every football game that was available at the time), it was during the 2000/01 season as far as i can recall, he was 16 years old at the time and was already balding to an extent. He got a move to PSV very soon after, but it was arranged that he'll move at the end of the season. That's probably the reason everyone thinks he's been there since forever.
 
If we sign him next summer, it would be like returning to the 14/15 window "policy". Going after shiny, big name singings with little regard for their injury record or how they'll fit into the team.
Jose does want a ball-carrier for that right hand side e.g. Mkhitaryan running with the ball and assisting Pogba in the first two games of the season. Plus he can move from the right to the left in certain games and cross to Lukaku as Mata did against B'mouth. Or run inside the RCB and provide cutbacks. Or get in behind the RCB and score from Lukaku's flick-ons. Maybe Mourinho just wants a fast player who is left-footed, a mesh of Mata and Mkhitaryan. So Bale and Griezmann are the options.

Really hoping we stay away, but Woodward's like a magpie in regards to these kind of signings it seems.
What's Woodward got to do, got to do with it?
 
Will be our greatest transfer mistake in modern times if we go through with the signing, and that is saying something considering our record lately.
Yup, would be an absolute disaster of a cock-up from everyone at the club who had any say in it.
 
Bale has never been as good as the media in England portrayed him (although he might have been a top 10 player for a couple of seasons) and has been totally dependent on speed and power. With those things gone, he is a nothing player.
So with his speed and power he's a something player? Are you saying relying on speed and power makes him a bad player? I think in the counter-attacking team which Jose is building, those sort of qualities would be perfect.

Additionally, he is a crock who is payed around 600k per week.
No reason to think he'll be paid that here, whether that's in Euros or in Pounds.

Maradona said that he would have given Bale for free, and this is one of the cases when he is right.
He also said Real Madrid should buy Mbappe
 
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So with his speed and power he's a something player? Are you saying relying on speed and power makes him a bad player? I think in the counter-attacking team which Jose is building, those sort of qualities would be perfect.

A player who would be 29 years old by the start of next season, and with his injury problems, won't be able to keep for long his speed and power. In fact, it already isn't as it was during his peak.

No reason to think he'll be paid that here, whether that's in Euros or in Pounds.

For sure, it would be something close to that. Even the 300k/week that would already be overpaying, is very wishful thinking from our POV. For 4 years, he would be losing over 30m net, and no-one does that.
 
A player who would be 29 years old by the start of next season, and with his injury problems, won't be able to keep for long his speed and power. In fact, it already isn't as it was during his peak.
Three seasons for £50m might not be so bad. I think even if he has lost pace he still has enough to be effective over that period.

For sure, it would be something close to that. Even the 300k/week that would already be overpaying, is very wishful thinking from our POV. For 4 years, he would be losing over 30m net, and no-one does that.
I don't believe your number of '600k.' What's that in? Pounds? Euros? Didgeridoos? And whatever he's being paid at Real Madrid, there's no reason to believe he would be paid that here. I remember people on here talking about how much Khedira was paid but then he went to Juve.
 
Three seasons for £50m might not be so bad. I think even if he has lost pace he still has enough to be effective over that period.

50m pounds/euros transfer fee isn't bad, I agree. Wages are a problem though.

Bale has never been a technical player whose play will not suffer when his physical attributes go away. Without pace and power he is a nothing player. And those two things are leaving him very fast.

I don't believe your number of '600k.' What's that in? Pounds? Euros? Didgeridoos? And whatever he's being paid at Real Madrid, there's no reason to believe he would be paid that here. I remember people on here talking about how much Khedira was paid but then he went to Juve.

It is Madrid, so it is euros, but regardless, euros and pounds aren't far off each other. Thing is, he will have four years in his contract, which is circa 30m per year. He ain't gonna throw half of it, to come at United. No-one would do that. People who are talking about Madrid paying part of his wages are being delusional, that happens for free transfers, not for very big transfers.

Bale might decide to give something in order to play, and not be on the bench, but that something won't be half of his wages.

So, even if we get generous and assume that he will be earning here only 400k/week, and that Madrid will ask only 50m (they didn't sell us Morata for 70m, and they don't like us at all after De Gea/Ramos saga), for four years it will be 130m pounds spent on him. And this is without counting his signing bonus and agent fees, so with them, it will be closer to 150m. For a player who is well past it, and who has played 69 matches in the last 2.5 seasons. Oh, and who has scored less goals than our own Tony Martial, playing in the same position, but for a much more attacking team.

There is nothing that checks for this transfer. It will be 150m money thrown away in a well-past it under-performing crock who is on free fall, who will have no resale value, who will be our most well payed player, and who isn't even playing better than Martial. This signing will make Rooney's 2013 contract look sane in comparison.
 
Bale has never been a technical player whose play will not suffer when his physical attributes go away. Without pace and power he is a nothing player. And those two things are leaving him very fast.
I expect most wingers to be less effective when they lose their pace.

money money money
Eh.
 
Bale has never been as good as the media in England portrayed him (although he might have been a top 10 player for a couple of seasons) and has been totally dependent on speed and power. With those things gone, he is a nothing player.
Bale is much more skillful than most seem to give him credit for, as it seems many pigeon hole him (like you did) into being nothing but speed and power. If it weren't for injuries, I expect he would have aged gracefully and slowly made up for his declining speed by relying more on his skill. Would he have been amongst the absolute best in the world without them? No, but he would still have been a very good player, certainly not a 'nothing' player. Of course, it turns out that he'll probably never get away from injuries enough to really find out.

It's similar to how many people make out Ronaldo is just a physical monster, and forget just how damn talented the guy is. Obviously Bale isn't 'that' talented, but he's no slouch.
 
Bale is much more skillful than most seem to give him credit for, as it seems many pigeon hole him (like you did) into being nothing but speed and power. If it weren't for injuries, I expect he would have aged gracefully and slowly made up for his declining speed by relying more on his skill. Would he have been amongst the absolute best in the world without them? No, but he would still have been a very good player, certainly not a 'nothing' player. Of course, it turns out that he'll probably never get away from injuries enough to really find out.

It's similar to how many people make out Ronaldo is just a physical monster, and forget just how damn talented the guy is. Obviously Bale isn't 'that' talented, but he's no slouch.
Ronaldo has far superior technique compared to Bale, in addition to being a far better finisher, and having arguably the best movement in the history of the sport.

Bale has average technique, was pacey and strong. And has a very good shot.
 
One thing that has hampered Bale (although Wales fans won't agree and it should be expected of all players) is his utter dedication to his country's cause and the burden he has carried for his nation.

This, I think, has caused a lot of injury niggles simply because the expectations to perform for Wales have been intense in the last few years, because they simply are a better side and have hope that they might make it to a major finals.

You may say this is a par for the course for a 'big' player - but he's frankly put it all for the red dragon and, although it generally should be seen as good thing, the physical strain of this burden - plus the expecatation at Madrid - might have been too much for him.
 
One thing that has hampered Bale (although Wales fans won't agree and it should be expected of all players) is his utter dedication to his country's cause and the burden he has carried for his nation.

This, I think, has caused a lot of injury niggles simply because the expectations to perform for Wales have been intense in the last few years, because they simply are a better side and have hope that they might make it to a major finals.

You may say this is a par for the course for a 'big' player - but he's frankly put it all for the red dragon and, although it generally should be seen as good thing, the physical strain of this burden - plus the expecatation at Madrid - might have been too much for him.
Didn't help that he routinely played for them through injuries, even in friendlies
 
If we sign him we can only blame ourselves and deserve a disaster season next year. It would be horrible business if we blow the majority of our budget out of the window for him and would be a huge step back. If we want to make a big galactico signing then spend huge money on someone like Dybala who has his best years in front of him. Real will do that with the money they get from Bale, so feck them. We have a exciting base with Martial, Rashford and Pogba, we need more players like that to compete for the biggest titles in the future. His best position is on the left too where I am happy with our options and I don't see him behind the striker even if he thimks that's a good position for him.
I don't really buy that with Jose improving his injury record either. Jose might manage injuries better than our former managers, but he can't turn a crock into a non injured player. We see it with Jones and we still have plenty of injuries. And there is no point in spending that much money when we have to manage him and he isn't available often enough. So feck that. If we give them money to buy Dybala or Hazard while Barca signs Griezmann and Coutinho we deserve to drop further behind the elite group of teams.
 
dont want, he comes across as a bit of prat.

it was written in the stars and he he followed destiny he should have been the player that should have replaced Ryan Giggs instead he choose to be in the shadow of CR7 at madrid.

Good riddance, they are about 20 other better attacking footballers then him in Europe.
 
This is the most predictable, and at the same time utterly stupid signing since Fellaini. We have been shocking in big transfers (bar Pogba) but this has potential to go as one of the worst signings of all time in football.

Bale has never been as good as the media in England portrayed him (although he might have been a top 10 player for a couple of seasons) and has been totally dependent on speed and power. With those things gone, he is a nothing player. Additionally, he is a crock who is payed around 600k per week. In a 5 year contract, he will earn 150m and even Madrid sells him for 'just' 50m, his total cost will be over 200m.

Maradona said that he would have given Bale for free, and this is one of the cases when he is right.
that 600k a week turns into 300k a week after the Spanish tax man gets his cut.

Premier league is different you arent taxed that much and you get to keep your image fees which spanish clubs all take. Bale won't be on more then 300/350k a week in the PL. he knows that

No one in the PL gets anywhere close to 600k a week, even the top top players arent getting above 350k a week. Ozils latest contract offer from Arsenal is 275k a week.
 
that 600k a week turns into 300k a week after the Spanish tax man gets his cut.

Premier league is different you arent taxed that much and you get to keep your image fees which spanish clubs all take. Bale won't be on more then 300/350k a week in the PL. he knows that

No one in the PL gets anywhere close to 600k a week, even the top top players arent getting above 350k a week. Ozils latest contract offer from Arsenal is 275k a week.

Neymar and Messi for example would have broken 600K comfortably i feel, it's just that the PL currently doesn't have anyone of that caliber/reputation. As for image rights, as far as i can recall Real Madrid takes 50% share while Barcelona doesn't. I'd be surprised if tax burden in the UK is much lesser, especially considering the amounts of money we're talking about here.

As for Bale, he can ride the bench there for four more years and collect every cent, or he can drop his demands. I agree that no one sane will even consider matching his income, and rightfully so.
 
There are far too many red flags with Bale and I think it's just a matter of time before these injuries take their toll on his physical abilities.

Manchester United is not the place for injury prone player. The time to sign him has long passed.
 
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