That's clearly an exageration, but yes the press was very critical about it.
Ganso - Paulo Henrique
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That's clearly an exageration, but yes the press was very critical about it.
A little bit but there were fans outside Dunga's house protesting. There is the right word - PROTESTING not RIOTING.
And meanwhile, as Dunga's assistant has said in a recent interview, the player that they really considered calling-up for the WC, and which gave them real doubts about the selection, was not Neymar, but Paulo Henrique Ganso. He said Neymar isn't mature enough, but Ganso was ready to take part.
I don't think I would've taken Ganso at that point, having never played for Brazil. I wouldn't have taken Kleberson, that's for sure, but there were other options (never understood which Diego got cast aside by Dunga).
But this just points to the talent, potential, and already existing quality of Ganso. Now I know a million things affect whether a player will be successful or not. Ganso could have an average career at medium clubs, and never make it at the big stage. But right now, I fancy his chances of making an impact on top-level football in the next decade. I just wish he would do some of it at United.
Interesting write up on him in Tim Vickery's blog on the BBC website, just how good is this fella?
Can Ganso make his mark?
One of the many wonderful things about covering South American football is the opportunity to watch young talent bloom. Yet too often that process is interrupted prematurely, the player sold off to Europe at a dangerously early stage in his career.
That is what has happened to Marcos Rojo, who made such an impact in the second half of 2010 as Estudiantes won the Argentine championship. Could this be the attacking left-back that his country have been looking for?
I was hoping to draw some conclusions from the Copa Libertadores, South America's Champions League, which kicks off in a few weeks. Yet Rojo will not be participating following his sale to Spartak Moscow.
Further north there is Fernando Uribe, the interesting centre forward in the Once Caldas side that has just won the Colombian title under former Manchester City assistant coach Juan Carlos Osorio.
Uribe finishes well and is highly proficient at timing his runs to get behind the opposing defence. The rest of his game needs work. Could he show signs of development in this year's Libertadores? It seems not, as he looks set to join Chievo in Italy.
European football taketh but European football can also giveth back. Some of those who struggle after moving too early come back across the Atlantic to regain momentum.
A fascinating example looks like being Louis Angelo Pena, the most talented of the Venezuelan squad who played in the 2009 World Youth Cup. He looks set to join Caracas after failing to get much of a look in with Braga in Portugal.
Pena, an attacking midfielder, is by no means the only South American playmaker to find it hard to make the step up - which brings us to the player whose progress will be watched most closely in 2011, Paulo Henrique Ganso of Santos and Brazil.
A tall, elegant, left-footed number 10, Ganso is considered an automatic choice for Brazil after only one game for the national side. Some have talked of him as the best in the world in his position - which I find a bit worrying.
ganso595.jpgGanso - a left-footed Zidane? Photo: Getty Images
No doubt about it, the talent is there. This is a player who is strong in possession, with the vision to see the killer pass and the technique to play it. His team-mate, the similarly heralded Neymar, talks of Ganso as a left-footed Zidane - a lovely thought for football fans everywhere. But some context is needed before we start getting too carried away.
There is the view that contemporary Brazilian football offers rich pickings for playmakers. Yet the country has struggled recently to produce attacking midfielders whose game is collective, who dictate the rhythm and bring team-mates into play with inspired passing.
Meanwhile, a number of imports have caught the eye in recent years.
In the 2009 Brazilian Championship, Dejan Petkovic, a 37-year-old Serbian playmaker, was the decisive player. At his peak, he did not make much of an impact on the major European leagues but his intelligence and quality were key as Flamengo won the title.
Last year, it was a similar story with the Argentine Dario Conca at Fluminense, a little playmaker who had failed in his native land before starring in Chile and now Brazil. Another Argentine playmaker, Walter Montillo, has a similar biography to Conca and had a splendid campaign with Cruzeiro.
These success stories can hardly be put down to coincidence. Instead, it would seem that the following conditions apply:
With the defensive lines operating deep, the playmaker has time to pick his pass, the criteria applied by Brazilian referees gives him plenty of protection and he is surrounded by interesting options. For example, he can slip a ball through to the wonderfully athletic attacking full-backs that are a speciality of the Brazilian game.
My cause for concern, then, comes from the fact that, so far, the pedestal on which Ganso is being placed is built of fairly flimsy material. He looked a fine prospect in the 2009 Brazilian Championship, though he found it hard to impose himself on a consistent basis in that year's World Youth Cup. His reputation, then, currently rests on his form in the first few months of 2010, when Santos won two titles.
Indeed, he was outstanding - but in weak competitions. Of all Brazil's 27 state championships, the Sao Paulo one is the best. But that does not make it very good. A quiet consensus is growing in the Brazilian game that all these competitions do is clutter up the calendar unnecessarily. And the Brazilian Cup is essentially a consolation prize for clubs who have not qualified for the Libertadores.
Last year's National Championship was when Ganso could have made the transition from promise to reality - as happened with Neymar. But a serous knee injury put him out of action. He returns this year to find that the tests will be much stiffer.
First, there is the Libertadores, where, if the technical level is not always great, he will be set new tactical puzzles and the marking will be more robust. Then, in July, comes the Copa America, his first senior competition with the national side.
I am optimistic that Paulo Henrique Ganso can meet these challenges. But as he gets ready for them and, in due time, for the move to Europe, I hope he is mentally prepared for the fact that the bar is going to rise.
denilson595.jpgDenilson had the world at his feet but failed to deliver. Photo: Getty Images
This has not always been the case with young Brazilian talent that has been praised too much too early - and I fear that in the past I have added some grains of sand to unwisely constructed pedestals.
The most glaring case is that of Denilson, the left winger who became the world's most expensive player when he joined Betis in 1998. I was carried away with his power and acceleration, tight dribbling skills and ability to score. But the player was clearly unprepared for the degree of difficulty that he was going to face, was blown off course and never came close to fulfilling his potential.
Denilson was the better dribbler, so it would be wonderful if Ganso can pass his way out of the possible trap of premature praise.
Comments on the piece in the space provided. Questions on South American football to vickerycolumn@hotmail.com, and I'll pick out a couple for nest week.
One of the many wonderful things about covering South American football is the opportunity to watch young talent bloom. Yet too often that process is interrupted prematurely, the player sold off to Europe at a dangerously early stage in his career.
That is what has happened to Marcos Rojo, who made such an impact in the second half of 2010 as Estudiantes won the Argentine championship. Could this be the attacking left-back that his country have been looking for?
I was hoping to draw some conclusions from the Copa Libertadores, South America's Champions League, which kicks off in a few weeks. Yet Rojo will not be participating following his sale to Spartak Moscow.
Further north there is Fernando Uribe, the interesting centre forward in the Once Caldas side that has just won the Colombian title under former Manchester City assistant coach Juan Carlos Osorio.
Uribe finishes well and is highly proficient at timing his runs to get behind the opposing defence. The rest of his game needs work. Could he show signs of development in this year's Libertadores? It seems not, as he looks set to join Chievo in Italy.
European football taketh but European football can also giveth back. Some of those who struggle after moving too early come back across the Atlantic to regain momentum.
A fascinating example looks like being Louis Angelo Pena, the most talented of the Venezuelan squad who played in the 2009 World Youth Cup. He looks set to join Caracas after failing to get much of a look in with Braga in Portugal.
Pena, an attacking midfielder, is by no means the only South American playmaker to find it hard to make the step up - which brings us to the player whose progress will be watched most closely in 2011, Paulo Henrique Ganso of Santos and Brazil.
A tall, elegant, left-footed number 10, Ganso is considered an automatic choice for Brazil after only one game for the national side. Some have talked of him as the best in the world in his position - which I find a bit worrying.
ganso595.jpgGanso - a left-footed Zidane? Photo: Getty Images
No doubt about it, the talent is there. This is a player who is strong in possession, with the vision to see the killer pass and the technique to play it. His team-mate, the similarly heralded Neymar, talks of Ganso as a left-footed Zidane - a lovely thought for football fans everywhere. But some context is needed before we start getting too carried away.
There is the view that contemporary Brazilian football offers rich pickings for playmakers. Yet the country has struggled recently to produce attacking midfielders whose game is collective, who dictate the rhythm and bring team-mates into play with inspired passing.
Meanwhile, a number of imports have caught the eye in recent years.
In the 2009 Brazilian Championship, Dejan Petkovic, a 37-year-old Serbian playmaker, was the decisive player. At his peak, he did not make much of an impact on the major European leagues but his intelligence and quality were key as Flamengo won the title.
Last year, it was a similar story with the Argentine Dario Conca at Fluminense, a little playmaker who had failed in his native land before starring in Chile and now Brazil. Another Argentine playmaker, Walter Montillo, has a similar biography to Conca and had a splendid campaign with Cruzeiro.
These success stories can hardly be put down to coincidence. Instead, it would seem that the following conditions apply:
With the defensive lines operating deep, the playmaker has time to pick his pass, the criteria applied by Brazilian referees gives him plenty of protection and he is surrounded by interesting options. For example, he can slip a ball through to the wonderfully athletic attacking full-backs that are a speciality of the Brazilian game.
My cause for concern, then, comes from the fact that, so far, the pedestal on which Ganso is being placed is built of fairly flimsy material. He looked a fine prospect in the 2009 Brazilian Championship, though he found it hard to impose himself on a consistent basis in that year's World Youth Cup. His reputation, then, currently rests on his form in the first few months of 2010, when Santos won two titles.
Indeed, he was outstanding - but in weak competitions. Of all Brazil's 27 state championships, the Sao Paulo one is the best. But that does not make it very good. A quiet consensus is growing in the Brazilian game that all these competitions do is clutter up the calendar unnecessarily. And the Brazilian Cup is essentially a consolation prize for clubs who have not qualified for the Libertadores.
Last year's National Championship was when Ganso could have made the transition from promise to reality - as happened with Neymar. But a serous knee injury put him out of action. He returns this year to find that the tests will be much stiffer.
First, there is the Libertadores, where, if the technical level is not always great, he will be set new tactical puzzles and the marking will be more robust. Then, in July, comes the Copa America, his first senior competition with the national side.
I am optimistic that Paulo Henrique Ganso can meet these challenges. But as he gets ready for them and, in due time, for the move to Europe, I hope he is mentally prepared for the fact that the bar is going to rise.
denilson595.jpgDenilson had the world at his feet but failed to deliver. Photo: Getty Images
This has not always been the case with young Brazilian talent that has been praised too much too early - and I fear that in the past I have added some grains of sand to unwisely constructed pedestals.
The most glaring case is that of Denilson, the left winger who became the world's most expensive player when he joined Betis in 1998. I was carried away with his power and acceleration, tight dribbling skills and ability to score. But the player was clearly unprepared for the degree of difficulty that he was going to face, was blown off course and never came close to fulfilling his potential.
Denilson was the better dribbler, so it would be wonderful if Ganso can pass his way out of the possible trap of premature praise.
Comments on the piece in the space provided. Questions on South American football to vickerycolumn@hotmail.com, and I'll pick out a couple for nest week.
I can see the comparison to Zidane as that was the player he reminded me of when he was being called the "New Kaka'", but of course he has a long way to go. However I think he will make it, most likely in Spain.
Anyone know when he's supposed to come back from injury?
Hows this guy getting on? still injured?
Not sure the validity of the report because it's not widely reported at all, but he has Serie A written all over him.
£50m, no thanks.
We should go for Goetze, if not Modric.
We should go for Goetze, if not Modric.
He won't actually go for £50m. Wouldn't be surprised to see Levy come out and say Modric is a £50m player to the press, to be honest. It's not meant to be taken literally.
I imagine he will go for half that and the payment will be in installments.
Part of me would love to see him in the Prem, preferabbly with us, but I think the slower pace of Serie A will suit him. Of the two Milanese clubs I think AC is the best fit for him as Inter already have a world class #10.
Part of me would love to see him in the Prem, preferabbly with us, but I think the slower pace of Serie A will suit him. Of the two Milanese clubs I think AC is the best fit for him as Inter already have a world class #10.
The price in the story is also en euros, not pounds
Individual highlights of a recent game against Cerro Porteno of Paraguay
Marcotti confirmed it. He is yet to be wrong about Serie A transfer activity.
So what is the news with him? Has one of the Italian teams got in for him?
News was one of the Milan giants were going for him... Still nothing official yet.
Likely to play in the second leg of the Copa Libertadores final next week and then the Copa America a couple of weeks after so I wouldn't expect anything until after that. Firstly because he'll not want to be distracted by transfer news at an important time in his career - this is by far the highest level he's played at so far, he'll want to impress - and secondly because clubs who are thinking about paying out big money for him want to see that he's still worth the risk and he's recovered from the injury and is close to his top level.
I had planned to but by the time I'd taken any notice of him (after his debut v USA) he bloody went and got injured! Came back in March, played 3 games, had another injury in the Copa Libertadores but it didn't keep him out at all, played another 3 games and then a thigh injury's kept him out since early April.
He's got a big role to play for Brazil in the Copa America and for Santos in the final of the Libertadores and he steps up to both I'd be very surprised if he stays - from what I know he's been agitating for a move for a while now.
He's got a big role to play for Brazil in the Copa America and for Santos in the final of the Libertadores and he steps up to both I'd be very surprised if he stays - from what I know he's been agitating for a move for a while now.
He is Milan bound people. It's just a matter of which Milan club he will sign for.
Galliani said so but he's a man who just like the sound of his voice (Gill * 10)
Well Ganso also announced he would certainly be in Milan next season continuing his career with oen the Milan sides. So did his agent and journalists like Marcotti and Vickery. So I'm finding little reason to doubt them. I feel one of the Milan's side will unveil this kid come the end of the window. I suspect 3rd party ownership is involved which would explain EPL sides staying clear.
Galliani has the tendency to first declare interest for the player. Then he makes it look like a certain deal. Then he ends up.......offering peanuts for him, while hoping that the player does the dirty work for him. If the player refuses to be a cnut and ends up signing with someone else then he'll switch to other targets while declaring all sort of excuses (the player didn't really wanted to join Milan, they were asking too much money etc). As I said this man just love the sound of his voice and will actually search for journalists to give them a share of his wisdom.
He's currently doing it with Kaka. "Oh yeah Kaka is an interesting player. He would love to rejoin us. We would love him back bla bla bla". Then he'll start focusing on the details. "Kaka salary may be a problem, we would certainly consider a loan with a small buy back clause etc"
We shall see how it pans out. Personally I never trust what Galliani himself says. It's other who are making get convinced of the possibilty of the move.
I think that Milan are following him closely, however they less close to him then Galliani portrays it to be. He's the kind of man who would only sign a player at a knock out price (or at least a cheaper price then he's valued for). If a big club steps in and it is ready to pay good money for Ganzo then rest assured that Milan would bail out of the deal. Same thing would happen if AC Milan find a good talent at a cheaper price.
Yep. That is why I'm beginning to think It's probably Inter who will get the kid. Because I really think they will sell Sneijder this summer and I don't believe Ganso will prove as expensive as some might think.
Too good to be true. Would be the best young signing since we signed Rooney.
I doubt this will happen.
he's a creative forward rather than someone who could dictate a game for anyone
I wouldn't see any real need for him
Mad skillz tho
I wouldn't see any real need for him
Mad skillz tho
We need a signing
Any signing.
Worry about how to fit him in later dammit
Any signing.
Worry about how to fit him in later dammit
He has an incredible touch 
He has an incredible touch
Yeah it's very high on FM sonny, you know your shit based on that game.
Copa America was the first time I've taken a look at Ganso. I recognise you can't judge any player after a tournament but considering all the hype surrounding him I expected him to be better.
He looks talented but it seems like he will be more on the level of a VDV rather than a Kaka. Could be wrong though because he seems mature at an early age and can only improve.
Had a poor tournament, I wouldn't really look too much into it. He was a doubt for the Copa America after his injury initially and this is only his 5th game in over 2 months so he's lacking match fitness, but even then he had to be doing more with Menezes placing so much importance on his role. Playing too far forward in my view.
I think he's better suited to a league like Serie A. Also, that injury must have had an effect on him. I saw him a few times for Santos before he got crocked and he's certainly better than what we've seen of him in Copa America.