Television Game of Thrones (TV) • The watch has ended
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I'm having you on, surely nobody can have watched that and thought it was consensual
ffs
I'm genuinely not sure how it could have been any more rapey. It was basically textbook.
The only question I have is why the director apparently thought it wasn't.
The only question I have is why the director apparently thought it wasn't.
Well of course it depends on how you define rape. It defo looked like rape. But let's not forget that this is Cersei and she could've easily been using Jaime to have Tyrion killed. If she would've thrown herself at him, it would seem too obvious. Hopefully we'll find out more next week.
No, it literally does not depend on anything. Stop talking.
Why are you so moody?
As I've stated, it looked like rape, but there's probably more to it. Cersei kissed Jaime about a minute after asking him to kill their brother. And while having sex with him at the moment may not have been planned or even something she necessarily wanted to do, I believe she was aware that it would re-establish the bond they previously had, thus setting up Tyrion's death.Was it rape? Perhaps. Was it rape in the sense that one of the two was totally against it? Maybe not.
Pathetic. Get a grip FFS. It was rape. Full stop.
When the feck did that happen? What a disaster.
Again. Not saying it necessarily wasn't. Merely stating that perhaps there's more to it. This is GoT mate, not Sesame Street.
In terms most of you might understand....okay never mind.
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Eboue I know you've had him on ignore since before he was a mod but Cina's just posted "it definitely wasn't rape". Just thought I'd tell you so you feel justified in your decision.
Of course it was rape she uttered the word no..no..nada all means get the feck off
I think that the writer of the scene knows if it was rape or not and he indicated consent after initial resistance. Still it looked like rape and in either context it was a bit odd.
I actually thought that episode of GOT was the worst one that I have seen. It was just OTT and at times aimless. Sam and his moronic wench are both tedious characters. Daenerys , well, she is just too bloody righteous. She is rather one dimensional for a GOT character and seemingly has no inner conflict despite her crazy, difficult and brutal life. How does she feed that bloody army as well?!
The wall and Kings Landing is where the action is at. At least there has been no Bran and his annoying friends so far.
I actually thought that episode of GOT was the worst one that I have seen. It was just OTT and at times aimless. Sam and his moronic wench are both tedious characters. Daenerys , well, she is just too bloody righteous. She is rather one dimensional for a GOT character and seemingly has no inner conflict despite her crazy, difficult and brutal life. How does she feed that bloody army as well?!
The wall and Kings Landing is where the action is at. At least there has been no Bran and his annoying friends so far.
Agree 100%
She clearly wanted it though and the amount of wine she drinks she was probably drunk anyway.
"Stop... not here... no"
Carries on.
That's rape.
The end.
Now lets move on.
Carries on.
That's rape.
The end.
Now lets move on.
Episode was properly flat, expected some fireworks after last week but meh. Just flat.
Exactly. Nobody is saying that there has to be someone dying every week but Christ you have to at least advance the story in some way.
And it's not like they've not got enough sub plots to choose from.
Literally nothing happened apart from the rape and Little finger revealing himself being behind the poison plot and killing Frey Bentos (nobody cares).
It boggles the mind they'd waste 15 minutes on Samwise Gamjee moving his inbred squeeze from one shit hole to an even worse one.
And then they add a Stannis and Danerys scene that could've been any random scene from last season. And probably was.
Mommy and Daddy going at it in front of their dead son's body, how romantic eh?
I like Daenerys, a lot. But I want to see her in more action, not just 2 minutes here and there every episode. Very much enjoyed Daario Naharis's scene as well, nice and easy!
I like Daenerys, a lot. But I want to see her in more action, not just 2 minutes here and there every episode. Very much enjoyed Daario Naharis's scene as well, nice and easy!
You lot are hard to please.
fecks sake
It's the Entertainment Forum. The only way to prove you're cool is to take a dump on everything.
Well that's bullshit.
It was a crap episode, no one is saying the series is terrible, it was just a bad episode. Did you help write it or something?
I wonder if we'll ever see Tywin getting killed. He just seems to be in perfect control of every situation that it's almost impossible to imagine anyone besting him in any way. But on the other hand it's Game of Thrones and no one is safe. Despite not being one of the "good guys", he's one of my favourite characters on the show.
Do people get the concept of acting? Nobody was actually raped no need to get worked up about it.
It's actually scary that he doesn't think it's rape.
I know we aren't allowed to talk about the books here (and i'll state now, i have NOT read them) but if you have read the books would you mind PM'ing me about that Jamie and Cersei rape scene? I've read some comments from people online who have read the books which have really confused me about it.
The scene is very straight forward to work out without any input from the books:
she cozies up to Jaime and then pulls away suddenly as if to say "you ain't getting any sugar till you kill your brother"
Jaime realizes what she is doing and replies "you're a hateful women, why have the Gods made me love a hateful women"
He then takes the "sugar" by force despite Cersei making it clear she didn't want him to.
That is rape, we can debate her lack of morality for using her body/affections in such a vindictive way however that is a side issue and one doesn't justify the other.
she cozies up to Jaime and then pulls away suddenly as if to say "you ain't getting any sugar till you kill your brother"
Jaime realizes what she is doing and replies "you're a hateful women, why have the Gods made me love a hateful women"
He then takes the "sugar" by force despite Cersei making it clear she didn't want him to.
That is rape, we can debate her lack of morality for using her body/affections in such a vindictive way however that is a side issue and one doesn't justify the other.
Look, can we just set this straight as it's ridiculous how people are analysing this to the nth degree. He raped her but it's a TV show and isn't real guys.
If either of you two are referring to my post, i know it was rape. That isn't the issue i was having. Thankfully @paceme has PM'ed me and confirmed what i'd read elsewhere. I never said it wasn't rape, it's crystal clear to anyone with a single working brain cell that it was rape.
It was a good episode that I enjoyed. You can't have mass slaughter and CGI dragons in every episode and have the budget for a spectacular ending. Plus if you don't have slower episodes you need more and more action to maintain the excitement and you end up getting bored.
But slow doesn't have to mean boring. In Breaking Bad, I watched two guys chase after a fly for most of the episode and it was great. This was just dull as feck, but then I don't particularly care about Dragon lady freeing the 67th city this year or the stupid fat guy story.
Nothing very interesting happened at all, I refuse to believe that was the best way they could advance the story.
In fact, I posted this back in May last year. It's still happening!
She deserves to be raped anyway.
It's still a good scene though, it's a shame her overall plotline isn't affecting the grand scheme of things on the main continent but her scenes have still be good.
Thought the davos scene with stannis and his daughter was brilliant, he plays a good part.
It's still a good scene though, it's a shame her overall plotline isn't affecting the grand scheme of things on the main continent but her scenes have still be good.
Thought the davos scene with stannis and his daughter was brilliant, he plays a good part.
The ending was sudden. I was expecting something else to happen.
The scene between Jamie & Cersei was wrong on so many levels.
Sam was very boring. Does the idiot really think moving the woman & baby to a whorehouse is a good idea?
I reckon Littlefinger was the one behind Joffrey's death. Now we know the Fool was working for him and conveniently had an escape plan after Joffrey's death. However, why Littlefinger would kill the king I'm not sure. Perhaps it was a red-herring?
From Sansa's perspective, I don't think Littlefinger should be trusted, but he's always liked Sansa and if he helped her escape, perhaps he will protect her. Although, going by all the crap that's happened to the poor girl, I can't help but think she's in some sort of trouble.
Tywin is superb. The scenes involving him were fantastic, particularly the one with Oberin.
Daneyres has a massive army already & 3 dragons. The woman needs to hurry up and go towards Kings Landing!!! Unless things improve, she's going to be a massive bore this season. What does she plan on doing with all these slaves, and how does she feed them all?
Sam was very boring. Does the idiot really think moving the woman & baby to a whorehouse is a good idea?
I reckon Littlefinger was the one behind Joffrey's death. Now we know the Fool was working for him and conveniently had an escape plan after Joffrey's death. However, why Littlefinger would kill the king I'm not sure. Perhaps it was a red-herring?
From Sansa's perspective, I don't think Littlefinger should be trusted, but he's always liked Sansa and if he helped her escape, perhaps he will protect her. Although, going by all the crap that's happened to the poor girl, I can't help but think she's in some sort of trouble.
Tywin is superb. The scenes involving him were fantastic, particularly the one with Oberin.
Daneyres has a massive army already & 3 dragons. The woman needs to hurry up and go towards Kings Landing!!! Unless things improve, she's going to be a massive bore this season. What does she plan on doing with all these slaves, and how does she feed them all?
The women Oberyn was sleeping with, one of them had fabulous tits!
The worst excuse you can make. I bet most of the men who rape think along the same lines of 'She clearly wanted it anyway'. The best you can say here is that it's a fecked up TV serial with a lot of prostitutes, but how can you say it's not wrong, when the woman keeps shouting it's wrong and fights of the man who mounts her forcefully?He'll protect her but I don't think it's out of the good of his heart. Littlefinger loved Catelyn but she rejected him. I think taking Sansa is Littlefinger's twisted way of being with Catelyn, as well as being a power play since Sansa is one of the few Starks left.