Bit like football ain't it?
Television Game of Thrones (TV) • The watch has ended
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I could understand it on a rainy night at Winterfell tbh.
Don't have an issue with this.
Fighting isn't like top trumps, the most skilled warrior can fall against someone significantly less skilled if they make one wrong move or their opponent gets a lucky hit.
Euron underestimated Jaime because of his hand, had just been washed up on shore so was likely exhausted and Jaime fought ferociously because of his desperate need to get to Cersei.
First couple of minutes of this scene are interesting with regards to how things ended up. Seems like Jorah/Barristan were right, and Daenerys' conquest very much mirrored the original sack of Kings Landing (but far worse).
The sudden descent into brutality & bloodlust once discipline broke was probably the most realistic part of any of the battles they've shown this season.
Aye, was interesting to see the Northerners (who are built up as being more honourable than the rest of Westeros) be equally eager to take part in that brutality. Although we already had a taste of that many seasons ago with those Stark soldiers Brienne took out.
I guess they felt they viewed it as revenge, particularly after the Red Wedding. The Lannisters made this bed but it's unfortunate the civilians who had no say in anything had to die with them.
I think he sums up where and how the show has lost what made it so good. You look at characters like Jaime for example. His character even to begin with had depth and more than one side to it. Essentially a shameless cnut but who has honour and does what he does to protect those he loves. Then his character is developed through the story and adds depth to it. Everything he does is for a reason and fits with what you would expect he might do.
Then you have Euron who came into the show in season 6? (I think). His character and motivations boil down to "bad guy villain...went mad in a storm or something"...like a comic book villain if you made someone write a comic book story in 5 minutes.
Like Jorah said...
"There's a beast in every man, and it stirs when you put a sword in his hand."
Also funny that in this scene Jorah was stressing how important the Unsullied because they won't rape/butcher when they take a city.
Who started the rape and butchery in the sack of Kings Landing? Greyworm .. an Unsullied.
Maybe he just forgot he doesn't have a dick.
I mean he PERSONALLY didn't start raping, but he triggered the whole 'soldiers rush around doing whatever the feck they want' process by chucking that spear.
I guess the key point was that thet won't rape/butcher unless ordered to. Dany starting the massacre was Greyworm's go ahead and then the northerners joined in.
The scene was definitely much more effective with the perpetrators being the supposed good guys. What with the WWs being defeated early in the season I guess there's supposed to be a "people are each other's own worst enemy" theme to the second half of the season and this certainly drilled that home.
It's a shame a lot of people have a problem with the Dany heel turn because the scenes of carnage that followed were really very well done.
I mean he PERSONALLY didn't start raping, but he triggered the whole 'soldiers rush around doing whatever the feck they want' process by chucking that spear.
I guess the key point was that thet won't rape/butcher unless ordered to. Dany starting the massacre was Greyworm's go ahead and then the northerners joined in.
The scene was definitely much more effective with the perpetrators being the supposed good guys. What with the WWs being defeated early in the season I guess there's supposed to be a "people are each other's own worst enemy" theme to the second half of the season and this certainly drilled that home.
It's a shame a lot of people have a problem with the Dany heel turn because the scenes of carnage that followed were really very well done.
Yeah the brutality was really done well.
Say what we want about the terribly basic writing, the guys and gals making this do know how to craft an epic spectacle.
There was a shot of a Lannister guard trying to guide the common folk to safety during the sack which was very effective in showing just how fecked things were.
I guess the key point was that thet won't rape/butcher unless ordered to. Dany starting the massacre was Greyworm's go ahead and then the northerners joined in.
The scene was definitely much more effective with the perpetrators being the supposed good guys. What with the WWs being defeated early in the season I guess there's supposed to be a "people are each other's own worst enemy" theme to the second half of the season and this certainly drilled that home.
It's a shame a lot of people have a problem with the Dany heel turn because the scenes of carnage that followed were really very well done.
Yeah, it's just interesting to see how back then they were so concerned with building an army which wouldn't behave in that way, and fast forward to the final season and Daenerys has that super disciplined army but has decided to unleash them in the worst way possible.
It really was done very well, and was actually quite jarring and difficult to watch. Extremely well directed.
I guess the key point was that thet won't rape/butcher unless ordered to. Dany starting the massacre was Greyworm's go ahead and then the northerners joined in.
The scene was definitely much more effective with the perpetrators being the supposed good guys. What with the WWs being defeated early in the season I guess there's supposed to be a "people are each other's own worst enemy" theme to the second half of the season and this certainly drilled that home.
It's a shame a lot of people have a problem with the Dany heel turn because the scenes of carnage that followed were really very well done.
It seriously doesn't matter what they did as the same people would still criticize it .
Either they hate the show but watch it just to be dicks and moan about thinking it makes them special
Or they pretend not to like it just to be dicks and moan about it thinking it makes them special
Personally if I don't like a show I won't waste my time watching it and talking about it endlessly
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There's an element of truth in that.
There is plenty to criticise about season 8 but the way the internet and social media is now it's just people trying to outdo each other with "hot takes" and that snowballs into stuff like "The show is ruined beyond all belief/it won't be remembered/What a disgrace!" Etc.
There is plenty to criticise about season 8 but the way the internet and social media is now it's just people trying to outdo each other with "hot takes" and that snowballs into stuff like "The show is ruined beyond all belief/it won't be remembered/What a disgrace!" Etc.
Yeah, cause that's so much worse than calling people dicks for having a different opinion.
And if you want to call people out for it, then do so and see what they have to say!
You know, instead of going all dragon queen just because some people chat shit about your favourite fantasy tv show
And if you want to call people out for it, then do so and see what they have to say!
You know, instead of going all dragon queen just because some people chat shit about your favourite fantasy tv show
The Prince that was promised was the Night King and the evil force he was fighting was Daenerys.
Agreed.
The show isn't perfect. But that's not what his comment is directed at. His comment is directed at a group of people.It's perfect for fecks sake!!!
He's just one of those people who cant accept the show gets criticism and think therefore they must have some kind of biased opinion against it. Which is a load of shite. Perhaps, he's actually wrong and getting blinded by loyalty to the show? It's cool, we've all been there. But i'll still laugh, like I laugh at you in the Star Trek thread. It's all fun and games.
Name and shame then! Let's see what these special dicks have to say for themselves.
And if they hide, it's the first case for R&R detective agency. Right @RedSky ?
It depends, can I laugh at our clients?
It's literally in our company creed.
Fantastic, i'm sold.
We need codenames for our clients though, to hide their identities. Lsd can be Dragonbreath and Dante can be Greywum.
Good find, when the full box set comes out I'll probably watch it again, you always notice these small things on second viewing.
I guess the key point was that thet won't rape/butcher unless ordered to. Dany starting the massacre was Greyworm's go ahead and then the northerners joined in.
The scene was definitely much more effective with the perpetrators being the supposed good guys. What with the WWs being defeated early in the season I guess there's supposed to be a "people are each other's own worst enemy" theme to the second half of the season and this certainly drilled that home.
It's a shame a lot of people have a problem with the Dany heel turn because the scenes of carnage that followed were really very well done.
Yep agree with that and that's why I haven't completely written the season off, has major flaws but also some great things too.
Unfortunately, now that Jon has refused her love and will probably critisise her for her actions, she will make the decision to burn him, to remove the threat of his name. Arya will probably save him by killing her. At least that's what they were building up with Aryas screentime. I can also imagine that Drogon refuses to burn him before. Somehow Sansa's going to get the iron throne, if anyone.
A more interesting question is how the feck they kill the last dragon.
What is Dany's full title after her recent antics?
I wonder if they even will.
I don't think it's perfect it's a million miles away from the Wire for one thing .
However it's far to easy to tell when people are criticising just for the sake of it .
When you are posting multiple times on how bad you think it is or want others to think it is its kinda pathetic to be honest.
They clearly keep watching it so they don't hate it . Nor would you continue to post over and over again about a TV show you think is bad .
Jon will take him over if he survives.
Or Arya will be the Nightking and Dragonslayer.
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