Television Game of Thrones (TV) • The watch has ended

onemanarmy said:
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It is known.
 
Massive Spanner said:
pure speculation based on those 5 seconds of footage

Baelish will get found out this season and meet a grisly end. I'm going to guess at a timeline.

First couple of episodes: As we've seen in the trailer, Jon and Baelish have a conversation in the crypt - probably about Jon's heritage or that he's not a "proper king" - remember that it was Baelish who told Sansa the story about Rhaegar and Lyanna in season 5. The conversation leads to Jon becoming a bit wound up and pushing Baelish up against the wall, mirroring Ned's first meeting with him in season one outside the King's Landing brothel. Littlefinger will use this chat as an opportunity to get the measure of Jon, to see how easily he can be wound up, and will begin to plant the idea in Sansa's head that she's a more worthy ruler because her temper is cooler and she's a better strategist - "Jon can't be trusted, that's why you didn't tell him about the Knights of the Vale" he'll say to her. Sansa will begin to doubt Jon, and if she's got even the slightest inkling that he's a Targaryen there could be more trouble in the works.

Mid-season: Jon has left Winterfell to go north beyond the Wall, leaving Sansa in charge. Baelish takes this opportunity to show Sansa she can manage the politics of the North by herself, that she could easily step in and do the job if Jon were to die beyond the Wall. Arya and Bran have both arrived back at Winterfell, but the reunion doesn't last long as Baelish immediately sets about causing a rift between the Stark children, playing on the fact that Arya and Sansa never got on in the first place. Cracks begin to appear in the relationship between the Stark children.

Final two/three episodes: Something happens to make Sansa reconsider things. Maybe Brienne says a few wise words. This, I imagine, is where the "The lone wolf dies but the pack survives" speech will come into it, that Sansa, Jon, Arya and Bran need to stick together when the full force of winter arrives. Maybe the show will make it really convenient and wrap it up easily, with Bran looking into the past and seeing that Baelish betrayed Ned, murdered Jon Arryn and that his feelings for Sansa are a mixture of necrophiliac lust for Catelyn and his own desire to take the Iron Throne. He's betrayed a Stark to get what he wants before, and he'll betray a Stark to get what he wants again. With everything out in the wash, Sansa sentences Baelish to death and Arya carries out the deed with his own dagger. Everyone goes home happy.
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:lol:

2cents said:
Deserves a mention
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Damn right :drool:
 
Eboue said:
Oh shit he got me with white text. To be fair, I did expect a bunch of freaks arguing about which actresses are hotter so I was an easy mark.
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At least he didnt say Arya...

Massive Spanner said:
pure speculation based on those 5 seconds of footage

Baelish will get found out this season and meet a grisly end. I'm going to guess at a timeline.

First couple of episodes: As we've seen in the trailer, Jon and Baelish have a conversation in the crypt - probably about Jon's heritage or that he's not a "proper king" - remember that it was Baelish who told Sansa the story about Rhaegar and Lyanna in season 5. The conversation leads to Jon becoming a bit wound up and pushing Baelish up against the wall, mirroring Ned's first meeting with him in season one outside the King's Landing brothel. Littlefinger will use this chat as an opportunity to get the measure of Jon, to see how easily he can be wound up, and will begin to plant the idea in Sansa's head that she's a more worthy ruler because her temper is cooler and she's a better strategist - "Jon can't be trusted, that's why you didn't tell him about the Knights of the Vale" he'll say to her. Sansa will begin to doubt Jon, and if she's got even the slightest inkling that he's a Targaryen there could be more trouble in the works.

Mid-season: Jon has left Winterfell to go north beyond the Wall, leaving Sansa in charge. Baelish takes this opportunity to show Sansa she can manage the politics of the North by herself, that she could easily step in and do the job if Jon were to die beyond the Wall. Arya and Bran have both arrived back at Winterfell, but the reunion doesn't last long as Baelish immediately sets about causing a rift between the Stark children, playing on the fact that Arya and Sansa never got on in the first place. Cracks begin to appear in the relationship between the Stark children.

Final two/three episodes: Something happens to make Sansa reconsider things. Maybe Brienne says a few wise words. This, I imagine, is where the "The lone wolf dies but the pack survives" speech will come into it, that Sansa, Jon, Arya and Bran need to stick together when the full force of winter arrives. Maybe the show will make it really convenient and wrap it up easily, with Bran looking into the past and seeing that Baelish betrayed Ned, murdered Jon Arryn and that his feelings for Sansa are a mixture of necrophiliac lust for Catelyn and his own desire to take the Iron Throne. He's betrayed a Stark to get what he wants before, and he'll betray a Stark to get what he wants again. With everything out in the wash, Sansa sentences Baelish to death and Arya carries out the deed with his own dagger. Everyone goes home happy.
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Fantastic :lol:
 
Things I need to see in the next season

Tyrian walking up to Sansa and asking if she’s missed him or saying honey I’m home.

An awkward dinner between the remaining Starks and Dani where Bran tries to break the scilence by telling Jon she’s his aunt.

Braun getting a Castle

The hound and Aryas reunion

And Ghost doing that thing that dogs do when they meet new woman and sticking his snout right up Dani’s skirt and Drogon getting involved
 
Andersons Dietician said:
Things I need to see in the next season

Tyrian walking up to Sansa and asking if she’s missed him or saying honey I’m home.

An awkward dinner between the remaining Starks and Dani where Bran tries to break the scilence by telling Jon she’s his aunt.

Braun getting a Castle

The hound and Aryas reunion

And Ghost doing that thing that dogs do when they meet new woman and sticking his snout right up Dani’s skirt and Drogon getting involved
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I'd settle for seeing some tits and them going back to at least attempting to make sense.

The Tyrion one seems like one that could actually happen.
 
Art Vandelay said:
I'd settle for seeing some tits and them going back to at least attempting to make sense.

The Tyrion one seems like one that could actually happen.
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It probably will but what if he threw in a
bet you wish I didn’t sleep on that couch now huh Sansa?

What not making sense stuff you referring to? I don’t know if I’ve now watched it so many times that it now all makes sense to me or I’ve excused all the errors except for the ones I noticed the other night.
 
Andersons Dietician said:
It probably will but what if he threw in a
bet you wish I didn’t sleep on that couch now huh Sansa?

What not making sense stuff you referring to? I don’t know if I’ve now watched it so many times that it now all makes sense to me or I’ve excused all the errors except for the ones I noticed the other night.
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Pretty much everything since the red wedding. :lol:

Ah most of it just stopped making any sort of logical sense ages ago. Pretty much any scene involving Littlefinger is pure nonsense. Sansa and Arya's story arcs, especially Arya's. The one that really sticks out off the top of my head is the last trip north of the wall that lasted an entire episode and involved a stupid plan executed stupidly. That entire episode made little to no sense, it was just there to achieve what happened at the end of it plotwise. Over time it's changed from a character driven show to a show where characters do stuff to advance the plot no matter how out of place it feels. I mainly stay for the tits, dragons and the ocassional Bronn quip now. I barely remember individual happenings after the episode ends as paying too much attention just ends up annoying me.

Then there was Dorne.
 
Got through episode 3 last night so I'm on track to get this rewatched in time for the new serious.

Forgot just how much of a twat Joffrey was - he's a glorious bastard.
 
Art Vandelay said:
Pretty much everything since the red wedding. :lol:
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Got to this episode with the missus last night. Was great seeing her reaction. :lol: "Christ! They've killed all the main characters."

Watching it again from the start it's easier to see that they're not actually main characters at all. Made perfect sense to kill them off when they did.

Already looking forward to Joffrey's death (sadly ruined for her) at the start of the following season and of course the Mountain vs Oberyn later on.
 
CassiusClaymore said:
Got to this episode with the missus last night. Was great seeing her reaction. :lol: "Christ! They've killed all the main characters."

Watching it again from the start it's easier to see that they're not actually main characters at all. Made perfect sense to kill them off when they did.

Already looking forward to Joffrey's death (sadly ruined for her) at the start of the following season and of course the Mountain vs Oberyn later on.
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:lol: I'm rewatching it with mine now too. She actually didn't believe Ned was dead at the end of episode 9 and it wasn't until they lifted his head in episode 10 that it registered "they killed off the main fecking character!".

she was also gutted at Renly dying because he "seemed like a nice fella compared to the rest"
 
CassiusClaymore said:
Got to this episode with the missus last night. Was great seeing her reaction. :lol: "Christ! They've killed all the main characters."

Watching it again from the start it's easier to see that they're not actually main characters at all. Made perfect sense to kill them off when they did.

Already looking forward to Joffrey's death (sadly ruined for her) at the start of the following season and of course the Mountain vs Oberyn later on.
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Robb was definitely a main character at this point, the show really dropped the ball on his character from the book.
 
Arbitrium said:
Robb was definitely a main character at this point, the show really dropped the ball on his character from the book.
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Oi, no book talk.
GRRM has said that he regretted not making Robb a PoV character in the book so I imagine they were influenced by him.
Cat was definitely a main character. It's just that she had sort of stopped being in any way useful to the advancement of the plot.
 
The Cat said:
Got through episode 3 last night so I'm on track to get this rewatched in time for the new serious.

Forgot just how much of a twat Joffrey was - he's a glorious bastard.
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Jack Gleeson did a great job acting as an a**hole.
 
Massive Spanner said:
:lol: I'm rewatching it with mine now too. She actually didn't believe Ned was dead at the end of episode 9 and it wasn't until they lifted his head in episode 10 that it registered "they killed off the main fecking character!".

she was also gutted at Renly dying because he "seemed like a nice fella compared to the rest"
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Ned Stark execution was a shocker for me. Sean Bean (Ned Stark) was my easiest recognizable actor in first season. So I kind of expected him to be a very important character.
And his head rolled.
 
Holy shit, cant wait

Also Jon Snows statue was the only one that looked like an older version of him.
 
I don't think that's necessarily in-show footage. Looks like it might have been shot especially for a promo. Didn't seem very natural, even for a show about zombies and vagina smoke monsters.
 
Dante said:
I don't think that's necessarily in-show footage. Looks like it might have been shot especially for a promo. Didn't seem very natural, even for a show about zombies and vagina smoke monsters.
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Kinda got to wonder will they even really show a proper trailer with episode footage. Even that tiny teaser they did a few weeks back sort of gave some stuff away and that’s if that is even in the series. Rumours are they’ve shot different endings and stuff so they might not want to give anything away.

I think you’re right though, looks just like a promo piece done for the date.
 
Where would the UK based fans be able to watch this, and would it be aired at the same time as the US? I have NOWTV, I wonder whether that would be of any use.
 
Irrational. said:
Where would the UK based fans be able to watch this, and would it be aired at the same time as the US? I have NOWTV, I wonder whether that would be of any use.
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It’s on Sky Atlantic live (2am) and repeated at 8 or 9 (can’t remember which) Monday night
 
Dante said:
I don't think that's necessarily in-show footage. Looks like it might have been shot especially for a promo. Didn't seem very natural, even for a show about zombies and vagina smoke monsters.
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Oh I defo agree with this
 
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