Yeah, it's just a beware of spoilers post.
Television Game of Thrones (TV) • The watch has ended
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Yeah she needs the North but the chance to crush the Lannister army is too big to miss. They are at Highgarden.
All this talk of scrolls etc to prove Jon Snow's Targeryan lineage?
The fecker is asbestos. He will walk out of a bonfire or put a candle out by pinching it, or something.
The fecker is asbestos. He will walk out of a bonfire or put a candle out by pinching it, or something.
He's been burnt before when he threw a lantern at a Wight.
Whipping his cock out at a wienie roast, holding it over the fire and not get it burnt to crisp.Not the entire army though. Firstly she cant afford to send men to Highgarden. Secondly she will lose men during the battle. Finally she will have to use those surviving to hold down the fort at Highgarden. Just like how Jaime thought it was worthless to capture Casterly Rock, Dany should think it be worthless to recapture Highgarden. Her focus should be on getting rid of Euron's fleet to level the playing field.
Just watched the episode through again. A solid hour that perhaps, as the AV Club have suggested, concludes this little trilogy of set-up episodes for the final civil war of the entire series. Not the best episode they've ever done, but a solid one full of some big surprises and some nice dialogue.
But more to the point of my post: the allies and territories have been established now, and we're fully tuned in. The following will sound a little "official" but it's just for the benefit of those who don't remember all the names.
SPOILERS OBVIOUSLY
The War for the Iron Throne
Daenerys Targaryen will have her Hand of the Queen Tyrion Lannister, the knight Ser Jorah and Lord Varys as her "advisers". Some of the Greyjoy fleet will return from their defeat to Euron Greyjoy soon and rejoin her forces. She controls the Dothraki horde, the Unsullied army (once they march back over to Dragonstone following their defeat at Casterly Rock), and her three dragons: Drogon, Viserion and Rhaegal. Daenerys does not officially have rule over the Stormlands, but while the war is on standby it is where she is currently based. Potentially, thanks to an uneasy alliance with the King in the North Jon Snow, she could have access to the entire North, the Knights of the Vale and the wildling army.
Queen Cersei will have Qyburn (the King's Landing maester), Gregor Clegane ("The Mountain") and her brother Jaime Lannister as her "advisers. Jaime Lannister controls the Lannister army, whilst the majority of the Greyjoy fleet belongs to Cersei due to her her alliance with Euron Greyjoy. The Tarly army swore allegiance to the crown, and their leader, Randyll Tarly, will accompany them as a bannerman. Cersei currently controls Highgarden and the Reach following their victory over, and elimination of, House Tyrell, as well as the capital, King's Landing, and Riverrun. Ellaria Sand and Tyene Sand, two leaders of the Dornish army, are currently hostages of Cersei, leaving the Dornish army without a leader. It is unlikely that they will play a part in the coming war.
So we're at something of a level playing field now with regards to the itinerary of both sides, with the Iron Bank sitting and waiting to see who wins the war before committing to any permanent arrangements.
The War for the Dawn
The Night King, the White Walkers and the now-readied Army of the Dead are north of The Wall, marching towards Eastwatch-by-the-Sea, considering it to be a weak point they can exploit in order to breach, cross, or circumvent The Wall. King in the North Jon Snow has instructed a small band of wildlings to guard Eastwatch-by-the-Sea until further notice, having last seen the Army of the Dead at Hardhome, a harbour and fishing village north of The Wall. The wildling army, lead by Tormund Giantsbane, are likely to be joined by Sandor Clegane ("The Hound"), Lord Beric Dondarrion and the red priest Thoros of Myr - the trio, travelling with the Brotherhood Without Banners, have had visions of the Night King and his army, encouraging them to investigate.
In an attempt to increase his chances of defeating the Army of the Dead, King in the North Jon Snow has travelled south with Davos Seaworth to enter an uneasy alliance with Daenerys Targaryen, and has requested her permission to mine dragonglass (obsidian), a volcanic material stored in the rock surfaces underneath Dragonstone. Dragonglass is one of two known substances capable of killing White Walkers, along with Valryian steel. The alliance remains uneasy to due Jon's disinterest in the War for the Iron Throne, a conflict that Daenerys and her advisers are intent on winning before shifting focus anywhere else.
Brother of the Night's Watch Samwell Tarly, as well as partner Gilly and son Sam, is aiding Jon Snow from afar at the Citadel. His mission is to investigate the qualities of Valyrian steel and dragonglass and understand their role in defeating the Night King and his army.
Winterfell
Having been left in charge of the North by her brother and King in the North Jon Snow, Sansa Stark has assumed control of Winterfell following her brother's victory over the Boltons. Currently camped at Winterfell and preparing for winter, Sansa is currently playing host to House Arryn, the Knights of the Vale and House Mormont, as well as Petyr Baelish, Brienne of Tarth and maester Wolkan. Her brother Brandon Stark has returned from beyond The Wall but now goes by the name of the Three-Eyed Raven. Brandon's travelling companion Meera Reed has likely returned home to Greywater Watch. With eyes on the Iron Throne himself, Peter Baelish is using his relationship with Sansa to manipulate her. It is likely that they will soon be joined by Arya Stark, who is travelling north from The Twins after wiping out their entire house as revenge for their role in the Red Wedding.
But more to the point of my post: the allies and territories have been established now, and we're fully tuned in. The following will sound a little "official" but it's just for the benefit of those who don't remember all the names.
SPOILERS OBVIOUSLY
The War for the Iron Throne
Daenerys Targaryen will have her Hand of the Queen Tyrion Lannister, the knight Ser Jorah and Lord Varys as her "advisers". Some of the Greyjoy fleet will return from their defeat to Euron Greyjoy soon and rejoin her forces. She controls the Dothraki horde, the Unsullied army (once they march back over to Dragonstone following their defeat at Casterly Rock), and her three dragons: Drogon, Viserion and Rhaegal. Daenerys does not officially have rule over the Stormlands, but while the war is on standby it is where she is currently based. Potentially, thanks to an uneasy alliance with the King in the North Jon Snow, she could have access to the entire North, the Knights of the Vale and the wildling army.
Queen Cersei will have Qyburn (the King's Landing maester), Gregor Clegane ("The Mountain") and her brother Jaime Lannister as her "advisers. Jaime Lannister controls the Lannister army, whilst the majority of the Greyjoy fleet belongs to Cersei due to her her alliance with Euron Greyjoy. The Tarly army swore allegiance to the crown, and their leader, Randyll Tarly, will accompany them as a bannerman. Cersei currently controls Highgarden and the Reach following their victory over, and elimination of, House Tyrell, as well as the capital, King's Landing, and Riverrun. Ellaria Sand and Tyene Sand, two leaders of the Dornish army, are currently hostages of Cersei, leaving the Dornish army without a leader. It is unlikely that they will play a part in the coming war.
So we're at something of a level playing field now with regards to the itinerary of both sides, with the Iron Bank sitting and waiting to see who wins the war before committing to any permanent arrangements.
The War for the Dawn
The Night King, the White Walkers and the now-readied Army of the Dead are north of The Wall, marching towards Eastwatch-by-the-Sea, considering it to be a weak point they can exploit in order to breach, cross, or circumvent The Wall. King in the North Jon Snow has instructed a small band of wildlings to guard Eastwatch-by-the-Sea until further notice, having last seen the Army of the Dead at Hardhome, a harbour and fishing village north of The Wall. The wildling army, lead by Tormund Giantsbane, are likely to be joined by Sandor Clegane ("The Hound"), Lord Beric Dondarrion and the red priest Thoros of Myr - the trio, travelling with the Brotherhood Without Banners, have had visions of the Night King and his army, encouraging them to investigate.
In an attempt to increase his chances of defeating the Army of the Dead, King in the North Jon Snow has travelled south with Davos Seaworth to enter an uneasy alliance with Daenerys Targaryen, and has requested her permission to mine dragonglass (obsidian), a volcanic material stored in the rock surfaces underneath Dragonstone. Dragonglass is one of two known substances capable of killing White Walkers, along with Valryian steel. The alliance remains uneasy to due Jon's disinterest in the War for the Iron Throne, a conflict that Daenerys and her advisers are intent on winning before shifting focus anywhere else.
Brother of the Night's Watch Samwell Tarly, as well as partner Gilly and son Sam, is aiding Jon Snow from afar at the Citadel. His mission is to investigate the qualities of Valyrian steel and dragonglass and understand their role in defeating the Night King and his army.
Winterfell
Having been left in charge of the North by her brother and King in the North Jon Snow, Sansa Stark has assumed control of Winterfell following her brother's victory over the Boltons. Currently camped at Winterfell and preparing for winter, Sansa is currently playing host to House Arryn, the Knights of the Vale and House Mormont, as well as Petyr Baelish, Brienne of Tarth and maester Wolkan. Her brother Brandon Stark has returned from beyond The Wall but now goes by the name of the Three-Eyed Raven. Brandon's travelling companion Meera Reed has likely returned home to Greywater Watch. With eyes on the Iron Throne himself, Peter Baelish is using his relationship with Sansa to manipulate her. It is likely that they will soon be joined by Arya Stark, who is travelling north from The Twins after wiping out their entire house as revenge for their role in the Red Wedding.
1) To be fair, this was actually a clever callback and not just plot convenience. I can't remember when he said it, but there is an exchange in an earlier season when Tyrion says that he was in charge of the sewers at Casterly Rock.
2) Are you talking about the Sand Snake death? If so, I think this was handled quite well. I think the presence of the Mountain made me think they were going to be given the same treatment as the Shame woman, but to have her poison the daughter was quite poetic. I think it's completely in keeping with her character too. She murdered Mrycella, her innocent daughter, so I don't think it's merely empty sadism to get like-for-like revenge on Ellaria's not-so-innocent daughter.
I love Euron, hes psychotic in a hilarious way. Pilou Asbaek is charismatic as feck, far cry from everything after his debut on the rope bridge in season six.
I had a look at the reviews online and most are pretty much saying the same thing, good episode for the most part.
The timeline is hard to establish, but at the same time, not every story is linear as has been the case since the beginning.
One thing that I agree with, in previous seasons, that allowed other stories to breath and take place during the points. Now it has to sorta move fast and thats what were getting and I for one am happy. If you think about it, we only have about 10 episodes left. Thats a sad prospect
We have been set up for whats to come now, and thats the main wars. I think every episode will have lements of a battle now with maybe one or two with discussion on how to take out the WW.
His interactions with Jamie have been fantastic.
The timeline is hard to establish, but at the same time, not every story is linear as has been the case since the beginning.
One thing that I agree with, in previous seasons, that allowed other stories to breath and take place during the points. Now it has to sorta move fast and thats what were getting and I for one am happy. If you think about it, we only have about 10 episodes left. Thats a sad prospect
We have been set up for whats to come now, and thats the main wars. I think every episode will have lements of a battle now with maybe one or two with discussion on how to take out the WW.
His interactions with Jamie have been fantastic.
I loved his advice seeking dialogue with Jaime. That was hilarious. I was about to get Jaime some cold water to address his burn!
This will surely be the most watched finale of a TV series hands down, easily beating Seinfeld and Friends.If you think about it, we only have about 10 episodes left. Thats a sad prospect
Will be interesting how its calculated. Cos there will defo be more streams going on for this. But also it will be split between those who watch it live vs those who watch it the next day (as is the case right now).
You think a series which is currently getting around 10m viewers for its penultimate season will jump up to 50m for its final episode?
I didn't take to him until his line on Theon's escape.
"What a twat!"
He sounded like me.
Doubt it. The days of a TV show getting Seinfeld finale numbers are gone. Don't think GOT has got the mass appeal of Seinfeld or Friends either.
Other than the cheesy as feck riding the plank whilst growling entrance to the ship battle, Euron has probably been the best part of this season so far.
For the US here are the top 10 most watched TV finales of all time.
http://mentalfloss.com/article/24673/10-most-watched-series-finales-ever
Current Champ is the MASH finale, 105.9 million tuned in. Estimating viewers these days is probably much more difficult given the wide variety of ways to watch shows.
A script and potentially episodes have been stolen, and are likely to be leaked. The script is already floating about if the news sites are correct.
Which script?
One of the best chapter in the series, great tempo and even Billy from Black Sails showed up.
Kinda wow.
Kinda wow.
For one of the upcoming episodes. Not sure which, I'm not looking for it. Just wanted to let you all know.
Might be the one mentioned on the previous page.
I don't care Karl Tanner takes anyone in a 1 on 1
It is indeed the same. Missed that post, apologies.
Decent episode.
Euron's army is ridiculously OP at the moment though. I know people have debated the time thing already but it does seem like he literally just constructed himself a world conquering armada and then ran through everyone in the space of a few episodes turning up everywhere he needs to in convenient fashion.
Euron's army is ridiculously OP at the moment though. I know people have debated the time thing already but it does seem like he literally just constructed himself a world conquering armada and then ran through everyone in the space of a few episodes turning up everywhere he needs to in convenient fashion.
Okay?
Tyrion is no Genco Abbandando
That bamboozled me too. Thought he was referencing Billy from black sails who's hench, so I popped Carl Tanner into Google. Turns out he's an American opera singer which didn't help.
Googling the correct spelling didn't help that much either, that guy got got pretty early on
Easily?! haha. Can't speak for Seinfield but you must not have been around for Friends - every cnut on the planet seemed to watch it.
Game of Thrones exists in a large echo chamber - plenty of people have never watched an episode and don't intend to because its just 'not for them'.
The whole season has been leaked a while ago.
(Unless you are talking about actual episodes.. I'm talking about the scrip of course)
He is the brother of the Night's Watch who killed/started a rebellion at Krasters Keep calling him a bastard.
http://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2016/07/game-of-thrones-most-popular-show-ratings
Friends averaged roughly the same throughout its run (without reruns), but obviously never had to deal with piracy. It wouldn't surprise me if you could add another 50% to GoT's number and the two would come out fairly even. And that's only in the US. Worldwide, GoT is miles bigger than Friends ever was.
Friends averaged roughly the same throughout its run (without reruns), but obviously never had to deal with piracy. It wouldn't surprise me if you could add another 50% to GoT's number and the two would come out fairly even. And that's only in the US. Worldwide, GoT is miles bigger than Friends ever was.
The guy with knives right? Jon Snow killed him with an assist from someone else I think.
That's a pretty strange pick though in a show that had Drogo and a whole bunch of people who are 'famous' for being good at fighting.
So why did Snow stop Sir Davos saying it?
Had the better of Jon snow
1) Warning about the approach of an undead army and how evil they are, then saying "oh yeah, he's undead also" might not be a great idea. 2) Now knowing how anyone will react to the fact that he was brought back from the dead. 3) Not wanting the whole issue of him being brought back from the dead to take over as the point of the discussions. 4) Not wanting to seem more of a nut case Just a few quick thoughts as to why he might not want to let the secret out.
The whole "there's an army of snow zombies coming to kill us" shtick didn't seem to be getting the reaction he wanted. I just assumed he thought it was best to avoid complicating things further by mentioning his ressurection? It wouldn't exactly add plausibility to his story.