Oh yeah, my bad. Forgot it started airing in April. It feels so long ago now.
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Oh yeah, my bad. Forgot it started airing in April. It feels so long ago now.
He'll probably leave an outline to the TV show producers as well as an author friend. He knows this is his legacy, so he'll make sure there is sufficient material available to flesh out each version of the story.
It's already well documented that when the series started he met with the show runners and gave them an outline of where the story was going and all that.
That's how they got permission from GRRM to do a series in the first place, isn't it? They correctly guessed the ending...or Jon's parents or something...?
Edit: they correctly guessed Jon's mother in a meeting where they were trying to convince GRRM to support the show.
That is supposedly what happened, though it makes for a better story than they offered up a bunch of cash to go with the vision of how they would present his story in the TV series.
So Season 7 will have only 7 episodes and will not be out for a while.
Damn!!!
Damn!!!
Watching it all again. Series 1 episode 9 tonight. Got my whiskey ready.
Messing with my mild OCD that despite 1-6 all being 10 episodes long they're gonna change it for the last two.
Ok, so finally binged the whole 6th season. All in all, I think it was a clear step up from the 5th season, which I thought was pretty bad. I still think Jon Snow's resurrection was way too predictable. In fairness, I think the writers recognized this too, and just got it over with as quickly as possible. The best thing about this season was how it finally brought a bunch of disparate plot elements together (ex. Danaerys aligning with different factions in Westeros, such as the previously pointless inhabitants of Dorne and Pike.) It also put an end to Ramsay, who, while initially interesting, became far too predictable in his sadism. I wasn't that crazy about the Battle of The Bastards episode. Generally, big set piece episodes aren't my thing (Blackwater worked so well for how it mixed the action with the behind-the-scenes intrigue.) For me, this episode was underwhelming in much the same way as the Battle at The Wall in season 4. The finale was amazing though. I think it has set itself up very well for an excellent final season.
I don't rate GOT with the likes of The Sopranos, The Wire, Boardwalk Empire, Mad Men or Breaking Bad, but it certainly is a very enjoyable watch.
I don't rate GOT with the likes of The Sopranos, The Wire, Boardwalk Empire, Mad Men or Breaking Bad, but it certainly is a very enjoyable watch.
When he says "David Benioff" I thought he said "David Bellion" for a second
I thought the same thing first time round
HBO's president of programming Casey Bloys announced during his first presentation for the Television Critics Association fall previews that "Game of Thrones" will definitely end after the next two seasons. Bloys admitted that HBO would "take 10 seasons if we could," but show creators David Benioff and D.B. Weiss have been adamant that eight seasons was the right number.
Bloys also confirmed that the show's delayed production of Season 7 will take "Game of Thrones" out of Emmy contention in 2017. The panel's "Game of Thrones" news wasn't all bleak, though. A spin-off is absolutely not out of the question. "We've talked about it. I am certainly not opposed to it," he said. "There are no concrete plans for it at this point."
Bloys also confirmed that the show's delayed production of Season 7 will take "Game of Thrones" out of Emmy contention in 2017. The panel's "Game of Thrones" news wasn't all bleak, though. A spin-off is absolutely not out of the question. "We've talked about it. I am certainly not opposed to it," he said. "There are no concrete plans for it at this point."
Of course HBO would take 10 seasons if they could. They were selling HBO Go subscriptions like hot cakes thanks to game of thrones.
A spin-off would be great. To see the stuff around the Mad King would be brilliant.
Also 2 more seasons and the number of episodes left makes sense given where we are at with the different stories. It does look like the end is near so at least its nice to know a plan is in place.
Also 2 more seasons and the number of episodes left makes sense given where we are at with the different stories. It does look like the end is near so at least its nice to know a plan is in place.
Watched most of the first 3 seasons during some downtime. I'm surprised how much foreshadowing I didn't pick up on. The seeds for the Red (& Purple) Wedding and the Sparrows coming to power were planted earlier than I realized.
I'm sure it's already been mentioned, but...
How utterly screwed is Cersei next season? She's made enemies of the Tyrell's and the Dornish and the rest of Westeros either despises the Lannisters anyway, or certainly would never lift a finger to help them.
Added to that, she's got Daenerys coming in with an invasion, accompanied by a significant force and two dragons. Shortest reigning Monarch ever? Could see the Lannister family destroyed completely, unless Jaime takes action against Cersei and then does the smart thing and surrenders to Daenerys.
How utterly screwed is Cersei next season? She's made enemies of the Tyrell's and the Dornish and the rest of Westeros either despises the Lannisters anyway, or certainly would never lift a finger to help them.
Added to that, she's got Daenerys coming in with an invasion, accompanied by a significant force and two dragons. Shortest reigning Monarch ever? Could see the Lannister family destroyed completely, unless Jaime takes action against Cersei and then does the smart thing and surrenders to Daenerys.
Except. Spinoffs would be awful because there's no good book to fall down to.
They could go with Dunk and Egg I suppose.
The pace will be even faster for the next two seasons then.
I don't think she really cares about any of all that. Remember the opening scene in season 5 in which we see young Cersei receiving her famous prophecy by a witch? It seemed out of place at the time but, as we've seen multiple times, these scenes have a deeper meaning. In this case the writers wanted us to know this prophecy.
Ever since Joffrey died, Cersei has been slowly but steadily losing her mind. She always was arrogant and narcissistic and she generally has a unique way to treat the people around her. She disregards those who aren't important to her, she hates whom she considers enemies with a passion, she keeps at a close distance those she thinks she can manipulate and keeps very few (her children and Jamie) in her inner circle.
After the walk of shame she permanently crossed to the other side, closed the door and threw away the key (her look in season's 5 finale is frightening). Right now, i don't believe she cares about her enemies. She seems consumed by that prophecy and acts like there's no way to avoid it anymore (she lost Myrcela too earlier in the season). She'll go down, the only question is who and how many she'll take down with her.
Cersei is a poor soul at the end... She just loved his brother and children, everything else is the byproduct of her love gone ashtray.
She really love robert doesn't she? And i miss it, who really killed robert? Was it cersei or its a pure accident? I dont think cersei can mindcontroll a boar?
She really love robert doesn't she? And i miss it, who really killed robert? Was it cersei or its a pure accident? I dont think cersei can mindcontroll a boar?
Even if he does take action against Cercei, what are the chances of Daenerys sparing his life? The man who plunged his dagger into the back of her father. I would think it's not very likely, even if Tyrion does speak up for him. Would be a cool way for Jaime to go though if he was to kill Cercei before meeting his own faith. He'd be a Kingslayer and a Queenslayer.
I predict a Romeo and Juliet type ending. Murder suicide probably. His last words will be 'the things I do for love'.
In fairness, Daenerys knows her father was a complete nut case, so she might show mercy...especially if Jaime explained the situation to her? Somehow I can see him being too proud for that and not really caring about making his case, what with the world around him having collapsed.
He'd also be a kinslayer, having killed his sister...
Speculation:
Planning to watch from the start again around Christmas time or around April time next year to take me through to the new season.
I could see Tyrion making a case for Jamie (given Jamie is the only one thats truly cared about Tyrion), but Jamie wanting to go out having lost everything. Murder suicide is a good shout.
Planning to watch from the start again around Christmas time or around April time next year to take me through to the new season.
Agree with all of that, fascinated to see what happens. Cersei has well and truly gone over the edge, she's just a twisted being now, who's only motive in life is vengeance. Her children were the only thing that kept her from being this way, I recall a conversation with Tyrion in which she tells him the only reason she hasn't jumped from the top of the Red Keep (foreshadowing Tommen's death?) is her kids. Now they're gone, her only redeeming feature has vanished.
Tywin must be turning in his grave. All his decisions were based on carefully considered strategy, with nothing as petty as emotions (in his view) worthy of consideration. The complete opposite of Cersei, who's actions are reactive, completely disregarding any thought of future planning. Littlefinger was right when he said that Tywin was the only one keeping that family at the top.
I don't know if that's true, when we saw the flashback of Cersei we saw an extremely nasty little child, even then she was incredibly vicious (threatening to gouge out the Witch's eyes) and arrogant, treating others as beneath her. Oberyn also mentions how cruel she was to a baby Tyrion.
Cersei never loved Robert, after he called her Lyana on their wedding night, and she orchestrated his death. She had Lancel Lannister, who was Robert's squire, ply him with copious amounts of wine while he was hunting, knowing that he would get himself killed.
I thought there were implications of poisoning referenced a couple times...? She explicitly stated she killed her husband because it felt good.
Maybe it's the American in me, but plying an alcoholic with liquor on a hunting trip is no way to get someone assassinated. It's basically standard procedure for hunting here.
She did once, unless I get it wrongly.
She fall in love with Robert, until they got married and realise that Robert never forget about Lyanna and just literally fecks everything with a hole in it. Cant' blame her to be honest, we have the hindsight of seeing everything on TV and seeing the big picture, but put ourselves in her shoes it'll be a different story.
No, just getting him too drunk knowing that he will get himself killed
I believe she had the wine swapped for much stronger wine so that Robert wouldn't realise how drunk he was. I'm pretty sure that would count as poisoning somebody, but at the very least she plotted his death.
I don't think she had ever met Robert before marrying him, the wedding was pretty soon after the rebellion ended.
You can't get a drinker with the body mass of fat Robert drunk by encouraging his squire to offer him wine. She explicitly stated she had him killed, so something else had to have happened involving Lancel.
She basically just relied on Robert's idiocy. It wasn't a concrete plan, she just made sure he was very intoxicated on every hunting trip in the hope that one of them would lead to his death. She claims responsibility because she hated him, probably likes the idea she caused his death. In reality it was mostly his fault, because he was a complete moron, she just helped him along the way. She put faith in his recklessness.
Lancel talks about it at some point I believe, and just mentions the wine. As another poster has said, I imagine said wine was extremely strong. He didn't even need to be drunk, just reckless enough to try his luck alone with a boar and his reactions would be slow with just a little alcohol.
Robert Baratheon: My fault. Too much wine, missed my thrust.
Barristan Selmy: He was reeling from the wine.
He commanded us to step aside, but I failed him.
Ned Stark: No man could have protected him from himself.
Lord Varys: I wonder, Ser Barristan, who gave the king this wine?
Barristan Selmy: His squire, from the king's own skin.
Ned Stark: His squire? The Lannister boy?
Lord Varys: Such a dutiful boy to make sure his Grace did not lack refreshment.
I do hope the poor lad does not blame himself.
Finale speculation
I've got no idea how the show will tie up its plots, but I reckon the final scene will be Arya going the land west of Westeros and discovering a continent full of dragons she could potentially tame. That'd be a great way to end the series, especially if Danaerys' three end up dying.
I'm posting this so I can quote it in a couple of years if I'm right.
I'm posting this so I can quote it in a couple of years if I'm right.
My random ending theory is the winter/white Walker stuff is kind of a red herring, and the true enemy is greed for power, i.e. the iron throne. The final battle won't be dragons melting walkers, it'll be vs Littlefinger, or.....Euron? I'm not sure on that point, other than it won't be Cercie.
And the last scene of next season will be the Wall collapsing. Put money on it.
And the last scene of next season will be the Wall collapsing. Put money on it.
Didn't Jamie tell Bronn on the way to Dorne that Tyrion killed his father and that he isn't his brother anymore? I'm pretty sure he hates him now.
Hodor was a DJ in real life. LOL