I love it and hate it at the same time. It's a big old feck you to the people who still expect happy endings.
Television Game of Thrones (TV) • The watch has ended
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I've waited a very long time for the reactions on the Internet right now.It makes sense for Westeros, but doesn't make sense for TVland. When a scene of peril usually happens, we've been conditioned as viewers to expect the "hero" to find some sort of implausible escape.
I was with Eboue in believing that Frey would stop the killing at some point. Far too much screen time had been invested in those characters and now they're gone with nothing to show for it. That's why you had all those incredulous and confused tweets posted earlier. The show just says "feck off" to every cinematic convention you can imagine and it's incredibly jarring (but in a good way).
I know what you mean. I read a very good point someone made elsewhere about people's attachments to the Starks, and how a lot of it stems from the fact that they were the first house introduced to the readers/viewers and thus we automatically install them as the "main characters", so it is that much more shocking when incidents like Ned's beheading and the Red Wedding occur, because particularly on TV main characters are not "supposed" to die (unless in some big dramatic event in the end of the story).
Who knows how perceptions may be different had the Lannisters been the first family of Westeros that we were presented with; for example maybe a lot of people would sympathise with Cersei/Jaime's relationship and how they never "chose" to love one another.
With Ned it kind of made everyone realise this is not your average story. He was made out to be the hero and main character of the story, then boom, he's gone. The next logical thing we've been conditioned to think over years of watching shows and films is that his son will rise up and avenge him, but nope, also betrayed and brutally killed.
We're all ignoring the real tragedy. RIP Orell.
He'll live on through his eagle though. Maybe he'll show up periodically throughout the story to inconvenience Jon Snow slightly.
Jons going to have a pretty great scar now though!
Was also annoyed that Jon just rode off and left Ygrette, the little turncoat.
The worst thing about the wedding isn't Robb and Cat dying, because they're not particularly great characters in the show, it's the realisation that good things you thought would happen no longer will.
Yeah, must say I was surprised at that. Although I assume he's going to the Black Castle to warn them. But you'd think with a direwolf on his side he could take out the big fella.
Also, is there any relation between Denaeris' new boyfriend and Aryas assassin from the last season? Or have I imagined that connection?
I wanna go back to something 'happier'.How fit was the bird Edmure married (the daughter of that Frey old cnut) 
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?As much as I enjoyed that episode I hope the killing of so many main characters doesn't keep happening. Hopefully the war becomes less one-sided.
Mmm, i've also just had a thought. With Rob dead, the Lanisters will assume that Sansa is now the true heir. But when Rickon shows up at the castle they were talking about, the Lanisters will find out and no doubt try and kill the lad.
He saved her life by pushing her out of the way just as she was about to kill the Wilding leader. There was no way he could have got to Ygrette before he rode off.
That's a good thing. I hate predictability.
There was every reason to think Rob and his mother would make it out alive. There's a reason so much of the story has been following them and its because they are leading an army to try and take control of the land. You dont expect them to suddenly die at the hands of someone with barely any lines before this episode, and an old git with lots of daughters and some soldiers. Had they brought out one of the Lanisters from the shadows, I would have expected an execution. There was no reason whatsoever to think that Rob and his mother were going to die so far short of a confrontation with the people they've been at war with.
Oh and Sean Bean as a weather forecaster needs sacking. We're almost 3 seasons and about 2 years in and his "winter" still hasn't arrived.
Have you been outside recently? I'd say he was pretty much fecking spot on.
Nice and sunny in Brummyland mate.
I don't think so. They just happen to talk in the same sort of terse manner.
I'm sure the book readers feel so much superior to us
Where did that come from? Nobody has said anything to indicate that.
feck, just seen the episode now. Knowing what will happen for a year, and still felt terrible during it. It really was made great and gave you the false hope of security. Until 'The Rains of Castamere' started playing.
The best episode I have ever seen.
The best episode I have ever seen.
feck me .... didn't expect this.
Nobody feels superior, I do however feel relieved that you lot have now had to suffer such a horrible moment too though
I reserve the right to feel superior to all of you.
I can't figure out if that's the best or shittiest episode of television I've ever watched. Maybe a bit of both.
Props are due to the actor who plays Lord Bolton; some chilling dialogue delivered prior to the RW. Excellent!
That episode is quite possibly one the best thing's I've ever seen on TV (Along with Two Cathedrals from The West Wing).
I remember Cat saying to Rob about the consequences of breaking a Kings vow, I just never thought it would be that dramatic. I thought they might have killed his wife and that be it but, holy feck.
Cat keeping her promise at the end was awesome too, I loved the fact she just stood there knowing what was coming.
I remember Cat saying to Rob about the consequences of breaking a Kings vow, I just never thought it would be that dramatic. I thought they might have killed his wife and that be it but, holy feck.
Cat keeping her promise at the end was awesome too, I loved the fact she just stood there knowing what was coming.
I just rewatched the leech scene in episode 8.
Stannis names the following people while dropping the leeches in the fire: Rob Stark, Balon Greyjoy, Joffrey.
So if we assume they die in the order Stannis spoke. That means Balon (Theons father?) dies next and that would mean Theon would be the rightful ruler of the Iron Islands?
Stannis names the following people while dropping the leeches in the fire: Rob Stark, Balon Greyjoy, Joffrey.
So if we assume they die in the order Stannis spoke. That means Balon (Theons father?) dies next and that would mean Theon would be the rightful ruler of the Iron Islands?
It's really impossible to answer this question without using spoilers and getting into all kind of troubles, so I guess good luck to whoever wants to take on your question.
Its funny how almost everything the Tullys touch turns to shit.
Edmure fecks up the war by not following orders, Catelyn fecks up the war by freeing Jaime Lannister.. Robb, who is more Tully in appearance than Stark, fecks up the war by breaking his vow to Walder Frey.. and then by killing the leader of the Carr-Starks and splintering his army.
Edmure fecks up the war by not following orders, Catelyn fecks up the war by freeing Jaime Lannister.. Robb, who is more Tully in appearance than Stark, fecks up the war by breaking his vow to Walder Frey.. and then by killing the leader of the Carr-Starks and splintering his army.
Kakstarks, and he had to kill him. You cant let that sort of disobedience slide.
How about a dose of continuity? (Spoilered for size, episodes labeled)
Tyrion whistling (early season 2)
Bronn singing (S02E09)
Blackwater end credits (S02E09)
Thoros of Myr singing (S03E02)
Tywin writing letters (S03E04)
Jaime trying to be nice (S03E07)
The Bear and the Maiden Fair end credits (S03E07)
Cercei's explanation (S03E08)
All leading up to last night's wedding (S03E09)
Bronn singing (S02E09)
NSFW tits: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIUyVeDsHfs
Blackwater end credits (S02E09)
Thoros of Myr singing (S03E02)
~1:00
Tywin writing letters (S03E04)
Jaime trying to be nice (S03E07)
The Bear and the Maiden Fair end credits (S03E07)
~3:29
Cercei's explanation (S03E08)
All leading up to last night's wedding (S03E09)
~1:06
Karstarks*
Also, if Catelyn hadn't kidnapped Tyrion, everything wouldn't have kicked off like it did.
Also, if Catelyn hadn't kidnapped Tyrion, everything wouldn't have kicked off like it did.
if you are going to correct someone's mistake, best not make one yourself.
Yes he could and should have allowed him to live. It's better to find another punishment than lose half your army over two politically irrelevant Lannister children